2023 Bullpen

The Gray Eagle

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Abraham in the Glob on Jansen:
https://www.bostonglobe.com/2023/04/30/sports/injured-yu-chang-preaching-patience-he-faces-another-hurdle-just-red-sox-role-was-growing/
Closer Kenley Jansen was unavailable because of lower back tightness. He pitched the ninth inning Saturday and gave up his first run of the season, but left two runners stranded in a game the Sox went on to win.
“We felt like it was affecting the way he was throwing,” pitching coach Dave Bush said. “Something we’re treating day-to-day.”
Jansen said he was feeling better and hoped to start playing catch again by Wednesday.
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If he won't even be able to play catch until Wednesday at the earliest, how long until he can pitch in a game? We're going to miss him as a closer, and will be shorthanded in the pen until he is back.
 
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I'm gonna apologize in advance for the lack of quality content here, but Josh Winckowski looks like Shag Crawford and it's giving me the willies.
 
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I'm gonna apologize in advance for the lack of quality content here, but Josh Winckowski looks like Shag Crawford and it's giving me the willies.
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I think he looks like a combination of Don Aase and Reggie Cleveland.
 
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Heating up in the bullpen said:
And the worst is the Rays pick him up and turn him into a lights out reliever.
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He throws 97 and has a good slider. Absolutely Tampa would turn Brasier into a dominant reliever. I don't know how he isn't already. But I also don't know how Tampa seems to do it with EVERY reliever they ever have.
 
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How long will he remain tied with Herb Hash, Hippolito Pichardo, Burke Badenhop, Craig Skok, Randy Gumpert, Dick Pole and Galen Cisco?
 
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I’m surprised Pichardo only had 1 save. He was used pretty extensively for a couple seasons out of the BP. But I guess that lined up with Derek Lowe being the dominant closer at the time so Pichardo just didn’t get many chances.
 
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I’m surprised Pichardo only had 1 save. He was used pretty extensively for a couple seasons out of the BP. But I guess that lined up with Derek Lowe being the dominant closer at the time so Pichardo just didn’t get many chances.
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Tavarez, Stanton, and Mahay are also surprising to me. You think they'd have gotten a handful.
 
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I was so pumped for that acquisition too.
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He was an absolute beast for Seattle in his 2nd year too. 11.8 K/9 and 2.8 BB/9 in 70 innings.

Red Sox get him in 2016 at age 26 and he doesn't pitch in the majors again after 2018 (age 28). Unfortunate since he had some real talent.
 
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Iirc he was one of a series of closers we signed that I was excited for, along with Andrew Bailey and mark melancon
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Don't forget Joel Hanrahan! I had to remind myself when that happened, that was 2013 and they'd acquired him (and Brock Holt!) from the Pirates for Melancon, and some minor leaguers and the excitement was having both him and Bailey as these two relief ace/closers. Then like two weeks in Hanrahan gets injured and they put him on the DL and replace him with Bailey. Then Bailey gets injured and he was replaced by... I forget exactly who, but I remember him doing ok at the job.
 
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Don't forget Joel Hanrahan! I had to remind myself when that happened, that was 2013 and they'd acquired him (and Brock Holt!) from the Pirates for Melancon, and some minor leaguers and the excitement was having both him and Bailey as these two relief ace/closers. Then like two weeks in Hanrahan gets injured and they put him on the DL and replace him with Bailey. Then Bailey gets injured and he was replaced by... I forget exactly who, but I remember him doing ok at the job.
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Yeah he was adequate

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The Gray Eagle said:
How long will he remain tied with Herb Hash, Hippolito Pichardo, Burke Badenhop, Craig Skok, Randy Gumpert, Dick Pole and Galen Cisco?
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Not to mention (someone from SI came up with this nickname), Doug "The Fidrych" Bird.

And, I believe, Todd Frowirth was a poster child for the last couple weeks of the 1994 season, when Duquette brought up everyone from Pawtucket that had a major league contract (because if they stayed in the minors, they got paid; got nothing if they were on the big club). He was (and "was" is unfortunately the operative word here, as he died at age 55) beyond bad save for this save; a WHIP of over 2.
 
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Crawford would rather pull a hammy than share a roster with Ort, and who can blame him really?
 
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Seriously? We don't have ONE f'ing pitcher on the 40-man except that idiot?
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The only healthy pitchers on the 40-man who could be called up instead are either in Worcester's rotation or are recent Angels cast-off/waiver pick-up Justin Garza, who has yet to work since he was claimed a week ago. Joely Rodriguez is on a rehab assignment so, fingers crossed, Ort's time will be short and uneventful.
 
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https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/baseball/news/red-soxs-zack-littell-traded-to-boston/

Ort's days may be numbered?
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It's an odd numbered year, so if Littell comes up hopefully we will get Odd Year Littell-- he was good in 2019 and 2021, lousy in the even numbered years.
https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/l/litteza01.shtml
Overall, he is 13-5, 4.08 in 169 career major league innings.
Much better in the second half of the season than the first half: 2-4, 5.06 ERA in 74.2 IP in the first half, 11-1, 2.84 in 88.2 IP in the second half of seasons.
Littell's career MLB numbers are marred by the 4 games he's started: he only pitched 8 IP with an ERA over 13 as a starter.
As a reliever, he's been pretty good, 3.62 ERA in 161.2 IP. To get him for cash considerations stash him in Worcester is a nice no-risk move.
 
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Winck, Martin, and Jansen, all with ERAs under 2! Good Lord! (yes, I know it's early)
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Bernardino too (and Schreiber is close). They still might need another lefty, that could be Joely, but the pen is absolutely loaded right now, and should only get stronger when they inevitably move someone from the rotation into the pen.
 
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Martin's delivery looks like an injury waiting to happen, but I freely admit to not quite realizing how good his stuff is.
 
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