2023 Broncos: Payton’s Place
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thanks but the rams have played well this season if that keeps happing they will keep stafford
today was a dispointed to be kind i have a lot of q overall denver over the last 6 years has been going for the short term fix and it come home to roots
today was just missed tackles and speed the off is deloped just cant pass pro the def has regessed from last season that the biggest plom in retrospect maybe we shouild of hired arizona HC and let payton go to arizona
today was just missed tackles and speed the off is deloped just cant pass pro the def has regessed from last season that the biggest plom in retrospect maybe we shouild of hired arizona HC and let payton go to arizona
Their best hope (like many teams) is to bottom out and draft the next QB. For Denver, that pick could take over in 2025. Wilson was a swing, which you can't really fault. But it definitely has not worked out thus far. This Miami game is an outlier, but they are going to struggle this year.
sure they plob need to bottom out but i dont think peyton ego will let it happen if we keep wilson past this year he will have to stay utill at least after the 2025 season
the 1 2nd guess u can make is wouild denver been better off hireing arizona coach pick yes they are 1-2 but are in every game and play very hard
the tipping point was after the 2021 season when instead of wilson denver keeps the picks and gets QB K Pickett WR G Pickins OT P Johnson Jr CB Joey porter Jr DE Keion White keeps Fant S Harris D Jones and go from there
I mean, that probably would never happen. But if Denver has the #1 pick and can get a top 4 this year and future 1st and 2nds...I listen... probably am very intrigued. IF my scouts say Caleb isn't the guy. But for all those stars to align is probably not going to happen. Take the QB on the rookie contract.
i also said this at mhr a broncos blog
this is what happents when great owners leave or pass away
this is on joe eillis for 2017 and letting a feau with someone dad get in the way of good businees sense
this is on john elway for thinking that 2015 was a buleprint when after 2016 shouild had got Doug petetson and when heavy on off
this is on sean payton for re-hire vance joseph and not doing enrough to get mahomes for the saints
this is on grogre patton for giveing up 7 players to get 1
this is on the walton-penner group for going with the big name instead of arizona HC who with the same level of talent beat dallas yestday
this is what happents when great owners leave or pass away
this is on joe eillis for 2017 and letting a feau with someone dad get in the way of good businees sense
this is on john elway for thinking that 2015 was a buleprint when after 2016 shouild had got Doug petetson and when heavy on off
this is on sean payton for re-hire vance joseph and not doing enrough to get mahomes for the saints
this is on grogre patton for giveing up 7 players to get 1
this is on the walton-penner group for going with the big name instead of arizona HC who with the same level of talent beat dallas yestday
here is my guiss on denver next 14 weeks
for those that hate denver on here u need us to get to at least 4 wins because if we dont QB Claeb williams would be a bronco that would tick off the league office who hates sean payton and hurt their chief dystanty
@ CHI ?
NYJ ?
@ KC L
GB ?
KC L
BYE
@ BUFF L
MINN ?
CLE L
@ HOU L
@ LAC ?
@ DET L
NE ? i wouild say L but your lack of speed plus it's on chriseve plus peyton knows everything about bill
LAC ?
@ LV L
if denver loses tomm they are the fav for the num 1 pick wouid tick the leuge off if their next golden boy has to go aga mahomes 2x for 10 years
for those that hate denver on here u need us to get to at least 4 wins because if we dont QB Claeb williams would be a bronco that would tick off the league office who hates sean payton and hurt their chief dystanty
@ CHI ?
NYJ ?
@ KC L
GB ?
KC L
BYE
@ BUFF L
MINN ?
CLE L
@ HOU L
@ LAC ?
@ DET L
NE ? i wouild say L but your lack of speed plus it's on chriseve plus peyton knows everything about bill
LAC ?
@ LV L
if denver loses tomm they are the fav for the num 1 pick wouid tick the leuge off if their next golden boy has to go aga mahomes 2x for 10 years
great comeback but that bears coach did a all-time goof not kicking the FG when tied at 28
for the record denver is a bad football team but this win MIGHT wake up denver to be 3-5 or 4-4 at the bye
it's looking likey denver will get to 5-7 wins getting them in pugtory for years to come
and more nightmare news wilson is not the plomem it's vance joseph no pass rush and no pass blk
for the record denver is a bad football team but this win MIGHT wake up denver to be 3-5 or 4-4 at the bye
it's looking likey denver will get to 5-7 wins getting them in pugtory for years to come
and more nightmare news wilson is not the plomem it's vance joseph no pass rush and no pass blk
on a peronal note my dad is going through home hospice
7 years ago he had a widowmaker where he almost died
and then 2 years ago he started haveing brething worries that got worse and worse
sadly i hope i am wrong i think he has about 2-3 mos to live maybe less maybe a littie bit more but he cant sleep all that well and my mom is takeing care of him
he is a steelers fan been one for around 50 years
i need your pryers so he is not in pain
7 years ago he had a widowmaker where he almost died
and then 2 years ago he started haveing brething worries that got worse and worse
sadly i hope i am wrong i think he has about 2-3 mos to live maybe less maybe a littie bit more but he cant sleep all that well and my mom is takeing care of him
he is a steelers fan been one for around 50 years
i need your pryers so he is not in pain
thanks for all your support
i talked to my mom and it's 1-3 morths most likely he has 2 diffeent lung things and he wouild be reject for for lung tranplast he can barely eat but he does not want to go to full time hospice
he can still talk for now i just dont want him to suffer he is my hero he knows that
i talked to my mom and it's 1-3 morths most likely he has 2 diffeent lung things and he wouild be reject for for lung tranplast he can barely eat but he does not want to go to full time hospice
he can still talk for now i just dont want him to suffer he is my hero he knows that
here is my rank of all 32 teams
1 det
2 mia
3 sf
4 philly
5 kc
6 Dal
7 jax
8 balt
9 nyj
10 buff
11 sea
12 cle
13 hou
14 ciny
15 tb
16 pitt
17 vegas
18 wash
19 lac
20 no
21 rams
22 indy
23 atl
24 GB
25 ZONA
26 minn
27 tenn
28 nyg
29 den
30 chi
31 ne
32 car
1 det
2 mia
3 sf
4 philly
5 kc
6 Dal
7 jax
8 balt
9 nyj
10 buff
11 sea
12 cle
13 hou
14 ciny
15 tb
16 pitt
17 vegas
18 wash
19 lac
20 no
21 rams
22 indy
23 atl
24 GB
25 ZONA
26 minn
27 tenn
28 nyg
29 den
30 chi
31 ne
32 car
How the heck did Russell Wilson just drop like such a huge rock the past two seasons? Is this what Max Kellerman referred to when he said Brady would fall off a cliff?
From 2018-2021: 66.5%, 7.8 y/a, 131 td, 31 int, 106.3 rating, teams were successful
From 2022-2023: 62.0%, 7.2 y/a, 28 td, 15 int, 88.5 rating, 5-16 record
From 2018-2021: 66.5%, 7.8 y/a, 131 td, 31 int, 106.3 rating, teams were successful
From 2022-2023: 62.0%, 7.2 y/a, 28 td, 15 int, 88.5 rating, 5-16 record
also what happ he had a tumb inj in 2021 as well
see seattle also could had traded him to philly or wash but he refuse those teams
denver throuht after 2021 they were just a qb away which is why they made that move
but hackett wanted him with russ to just be a pocket passer
and then in 2023 payton wanted the denver job because he throught he couild win faster there than in arizona
also the new owners wanted the 'bigger' name when in retrosept
in 2022 shouild had drafted QB K Pickett then at 40 couild had george pickins at wr
and in 2023 couild had paris johnson jr at 5 and joe tirppmann at c also without the trade wouild still have te n fant and de demont jones most likely
also instead of paying payton 18 mil a year shouild had just kept hackett for 22 and 23 and try to woo bill b for a 3 year run starting in 24
and with those draft moves we couild had avoid OT M mlinghy contact among others as well
about sunday game denver biggest short term is lack of td's in redzone
if denver can improve their pass blocking and run stopping they can be a thorn in playoff teams chanes
here is my guess on how denver season will play out
KC - L but if they somehow win it couild sit up a run
@ buff tossup if buff its on their game we have no shot but if allen is careless with the ball
MINN W
Cle Tossup
@ hou tossup
@ lac tossup
@det L
NE W
LAC Tossup
@ vegas tossup
most likely 6-11 or 7-10 but a denver win sunday couild sit up a 9-8 type of team that will get buzz for 24
if denver can improve their pass blocking and run stopping they can be a thorn in playoff teams chanes
here is my guess on how denver season will play out
KC - L but if they somehow win it couild sit up a run
@ buff tossup if buff its on their game we have no shot but if allen is careless with the ball
MINN W
Cle Tossup
@ hou tossup
@ lac tossup
@det L
NE W
LAC Tossup
@ vegas tossup
most likely 6-11 or 7-10 but a denver win sunday couild sit up a 9-8 type of team that will get buzz for 24
well we are 3-5 after the bye week @ buff is our toughest game left u can scoff but if denver wins on nov 13th 10-7 is a poss
@ Buff learning loss but if allen is careless with the ball who knows
minn W
Cle leans win
@ hou W
@ LAC tossup
@ DET L
NE W
LAC W
VEGAS W
@ Buff learning loss but if allen is careless with the ball who knows
minn W
Cle leans win
@ hou W
@ LAC tossup
@ DET L
NE W
LAC W
VEGAS W
I was actually looking at their sched during the game and thought “are these guys going to go 10-7?”
congrats still being alive
midseason report
QB - wilson is up/down is best as a game manger likely denver qb utill after the 2025 season
RB best spot on the team have 3 very good rb's
WR jerdy will likely stay utill 2024 suttion is a pefect fit for payton off mims jr is the speed
OL above ave at run blk below ave at pass blk
DL wish they had more pass rush but is starting to gel
LB young agg has a lot of pormise
CB with simmons back and moneau stattle in at num 2 cb
bottom line we need to treat week 10 like a playoff game
QB - wilson is up/down is best as a game manger likely denver qb utill after the 2025 season
RB best spot on the team have 3 very good rb's
WR jerdy will likely stay utill 2024 suttion is a pefect fit for payton off mims jr is the speed
OL above ave at run blk below ave at pass blk
DL wish they had more pass rush but is starting to gel
LB young agg has a lot of pormise
CB with simmons back and moneau stattle in at num 2 cb
bottom line we need to treat week 10 like a playoff game
thanks and if not for payton doing a onside kick in week 1 first q and for fireing up the jets we wouild be at least 4-4 shouild had won week 1
but buffalo will be a tall order
the jets look good as well i think they go 10-7 or 9-8
we need another WR and our guys to get healthy on the line. 10-7 probably best Jets can hope for. WC should be interesting race in AFC
my dad is about to pass away from lung disease
on denver it's great that they wow 4 in a row but their off cant score and u cant depend on 4 takeaways in every game the next 2 games are must wins then if that happanes den wouild have tiebreaks on buff cle hou IF they win the next 2 games 9-8 couild get them in
my 02 on the next 7 games
cle toss up
@ hou tossup
@ lac tossup
@ Det Loss
ne win
LAC tossup
@vegas win
on denver it's great that they wow 4 in a row but their off cant score and u cant depend on 4 takeaways in every game the next 2 games are must wins then if that happanes den wouild have tiebreaks on buff cle hou IF they win the next 2 games 9-8 couild get them in
my 02 on the next 7 games
cle toss up
@ hou tossup
@ lac tossup
@ Det Loss
ne win
LAC tossup
@vegas win
Sorry about your dad, J.
Even if your team doesn’t make it because of the slow start, Payton has them playing organized football for the first time in a while.
thanks buddy yeah its nice to see it gives me hope that we can be a seake good team in 2024 and i now think denver needs to do whatever they can to get that te from georia hope DE cam jordan is cut from no and run it back in 2024 because for the first time since 2016 denver can comele in their div
I’m so sorry jman. Lost my dad this time of year too. Glad you got some time with him.
I'm sorry! My best to you and your family during this time. I wish you peace and serenity.
So sorry for your loss. My own dad passed 20 years ago on the day before that Thanksgiving, so I know how this happening around the holidays adds to how difficult a time this is for you.
So sorry to hear that jman. I hope he went peacefully and that you are able to mourn him well and find some serenity during this holiday season.
I’m so sorry for your loss. Whoever raised you is a great parent/man, it is obvious in your posts.
