2023-2024 General NBA Season Thread

[HomeRunBaker]

Enough about Embiid and Towns.....let's talk REAL accomplishments here with one of the Port Cellar's favorite away players.

Kyle Lowry in his last 5 games.....

25:30 MPG
5-30 FGA
0-18 Threes (not a typo, he's missed his last 18 three's!)

 

[tims4wins]

Enough about Embiid and Towns.....let's talk REAL accomplishments here with one of the Port Cellar's favorite away players.

Kyle Lowry in his last 5 games.....

25:30 MPG
5-30 FGA
0-18 Threes (not a typo, he's missed his last 18 three's!)

You hate to see it.

 

[DavidTai]

Goddamn it, you jinxed it.

View: https://www.twitter.com/wojespn/status/1749811885439066581?t=Mpce6xpDo-75XcH4H3D3wQ&s=34

 

[128]

Goddamn it, you jinxed it.

View: https://www.twitter.com/wojespn/status/1749811885439066581?t=Mpce6xpDo-75XcH4H3D3wQ&s=34

Heat just became a lot less detestable.

 

[mikeford]

Scary Terry taking his talents to South Beach is genuinely depressing

 

[MyDaughterLovesTomGordon]

Well, good for Scary Terry. Lowry is toasty, for sure. That makes Miami better, but I’m not sure how much better. Hornets have been bad for a while, so it’s kind of hard to tell where Rozier’s game is.

 

[DeadlySplitter]

Rozier’s been buried in Charlotte so long I forgot about him. Could see him Thursday night now.

Lowry will be bought out but hilarious nonetheless.

 

[PedroKsBambino]

Yeah, it's a nice get for Miami but also would seem to really reduce their ability to get a huge upgrade this year. They still have some contracts they could deal, but asset-wise they are pretty thin.

Rozier for a 1 is better value than Murray for at least two 1s, I'd say, for them.

 

[HomeRunBaker]

Lowry will be bought out but hilarious nonetheless.

Hmmmm....this server may go down in the next week.

 

[128]

Bam-Butler-Jaquez-Herro-Rozier-Robinson-Caleb Martin.

I would rather avoid the Heat in the playoffs, tbh.

 

[Devizier]

Enough about Embiid and Towns.....let's talk REAL accomplishments here with one of the Port Cellar's favorite away players.

Kyle Lowry in his last 5 games.....

25:30 MPG
5-30 FGA
0-18 Threes (not a typo, he's missed his last 18 three's!)

Never mind!

 

[128]

View: https://twitter.com/YossiGozlan/status/1749812630091665839

 

[HomeRunBaker]

Bam-Butler-Jaquez-Herro-Rozier-Robinson-Caleb Martin.

I would rather avoid the Heat in the playoffs, tbh.

They will be a tough out for sure. Real tough!

 

[the moops]

So does Charlotte continue to tear it down and trade Bridges and Hayward? Maybe even PJ Washington and/or Nick Richards?

 

[TripleOT]

Charlotte should’ve been able to get something more for Rozier. He’s a solid scorer and is good at coming through in crunch time.

 

[128]

Charlotte should’ve been able to get something more for Rozier. He’s a solid scorer and is good at coming through in crunch time.

Yeah, on the surface it appears to be a huge steal for the Heat.

 

[the moops]

Charlotte should’ve been able to get something more for Rozier. He’s a solid scorer and is good at coming through in crunch time.

Meh. He's kinda always banged up. Missed 20 games last year, 11 this year already. Nobody was giving up more than one first for him

 

[DeJesus Built My Hotrod]

Also, at some point it feels inevitable that the Heat will acquire the player picked by CLT in the first round of the 2027 draft.

 

[m0ckduck]

Meh. He's kinda always banged up. Missed 20 games last year, 11 this year already. Nobody was giving up more than one first for him

FWIW, ESPN's trade deadline preview had "Lowry and a 2028 first (top-10 protected) to Charlotte for Terry Rozier"

edit: apparently the actual pick is a lottery-protected pick in 2027 that becomes unprotected in 2028. If the C's had just re-acquired Rozier for that pick + an expiring, I think folks would be mildly complaining rather than deeming it a steal.

 

[lovegtm]

Seems like a great fit with Spo. I wish it weren't the Heat, but I like Terry and will be rooting for him to do well and lose to the Cs.

 

[PedroKsBambino]

I think the market price for a quality but imperfect starter is one real asset and a second small asset, so Rozier is pretty much in-line with that. Maybe they should have gotten Jovic or someone minor like that as well, but they also may be betting that 2027 is after the Riley/Butler window in Miami. It's lottery protected in 2027 and unprotected in 2028 so that has some more upside than many picks.

 

[mikeford]

Hmmmm....this server may go down in the next week.

Don't put that out into the universe man

 

[128]

View: https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1749839940807217178

 

[jezza1918]

View: https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1749839940807217178

I was going to make a viagra joke but then remembered somehow Thompson is only 32 years old. I guess in a world where Tatum is still only 19 it makes sense...

 

[PedroKsBambino]

I'm no fan of the Kardashians but I had no idea they were characterzed as a drug by the NBA...

 

[The Mort Report]

Don't put that out into the universe man

I mean he makes over the TPE, we can’t sign him if he’s bought out correct?

 

[benhogan]

They will be a tough out for sure. Real tough!

Great trade by the Heat. They can easily add a buyout candidate who wants to ring chase in South Beach.
or use that $6.5 exception

Rozier is going to be excited to compete after being on a non-contender for years.
Expecting his defense to tick-up on the Heat.

Terry fits the Heat archetype, and they have him for several years with Lowry expiring.

I imagine Pat Riley has been backchanneling with several agents on new additions

 

[the moops]

Great trade by the Heat. They can easily add a buyout candidate who wants to ring chase in South Beach.
or use that $6.5 exception

Rozier is going to be excited to compete after being on a non-contender for years.
Expecting his defense to tick-up on the Heat.

Terry fits the Heat archetype, and they have him for several years with Lowry expiring.

I imagine Pat Riley has been backchanneling with several agents on new additions

Miami has the same issue as Boston. They can only sign a buyout guy if that guy makes less than the non taxpayer MLE. And as we have investigated thoroughly, there isn't a whole lot of guys making less than 6.5 million who are available and offer much more than end of the bench play

 

[Euclis20]

I haven't seen enough of him over the last few years, but I'm wondering if he's strong enough defensively to play next to Herro in crunch time lineups. He's nowhere near Lowry defensively (or at least where Lowry was a year or two ago), but can they play Rozier/Herro in the backcourt, with Robinson on the floor at the same time? That might be a bit much even for their zone to handle.

 

[benhogan]

Miami has the same issue as Boston. They can only sign a buyout guy if that guy makes less than the non taxpayer MLE. And as we have investigated thoroughly, there isn't a whole lot of guys making less than 6.5 million who are available and offer much more than end of the bench play

Great use of one protected First, very Brad-like move.

1-10 they are pretty well set
Butler
Bam
TRoz
Herro
JJJ

Martin
Duncan
JRich
Love
Highsmith/Jovic

 

[lovegtm]

Great use of one protected First, very Brad-like move.

1-10 they are pretty well set
Butler
Bam
TRoz
Herro
JJJ

Martin
Duncan
JRich
Love
Highsmith/Jovic

Very Brad move. If you're willing to take good starters as opposed to stars, you can get really solid players for late 1sts (although I'd value a 2027/2028unprotected Miami pick a lot higher than a similar Celtics' pick. The Heat always stay relevant, but they also pick in the teens a fair amount.)

 

[Murderer's Crow]

I'm glad to see Terry not get on the knicks, as rumors were starting to percolate in that direction. It feels like the Knicks should really be targeting Brogdon, who you would think would cost less than Rozier. Fournier and a pick, might be able to hold onto Grimes.

 

[the moops]

Great use of one protected First, very Brad-like move.

Just one thing on the protections. Looks like lotto protected in 2027, unprotected in 2028.

They owe their 2025, so this move does make it so they can only move their 2030 pick until that 2027/2028 pick is conveyed

 

[bigq]

I may be in the minority but I think Rozier is not very good and the trade doesn't move the needle much for Miami. He put up a bunch of points on a bad Charlotte roster but he is undersized and his rate and advanced stats are not compelling. I guess Lowry may be over the hill and totally cooked (and based on his recent game log that may indeed be the case) but this appears to me to be just a marginal improvement for Miami.

 

[HomeRunBaker]

Miami has the same issue as Boston. They can only sign a buyout guy if that guy makes less than the non taxpayer MLE. And as we have investigated thoroughly, there isn't a whole lot of guys making less than 6.5 million who are available and offer much more than end of the bench play

They don’t even need to add anyone to be a factor here. They are loaded enough to handle Roziers off nights but he’s fully capable of carrying his team to a win on nights he has it going. He’s really good but stuck in a bad situation and no reason to be motivated in Charlotte.

 

[RorschachsMask]

I may be in the minority but I think Rozier is not very good and the trade doesn't move the needle much for Miami. He put up a bunch of points on a bad Charlotte roster but he is undersized and his rate and advanced stats are not compelling. I guess Lowry may be over the hill and totally cooked (and based on his recent game log that may indeed be the case) but this appears to me to be just a marginal improvement for Miami.
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He’s not very impactful in his role, but as a spot up and transition guy? Should be pretty damn good.

One of him or Herro would have to defend KP quite a bit on switches though, I wonder how that will guy.

 

[TomRicardo]

Charlotte should’ve been able to get something more for Rozier. He’s a solid scorer and is good at coming through in crunch time.

Yea this wasn't a great trade by Charlotte. That pick is rolling the dice that the Heat will hang on to Butler too long and not stay competitive.

Edit - How did the Knicks let this happen?

 

[the moops]

Yea this wasn't a great trade by Charlotte. That pick is rolling the dice that the Heat will hang on to Butler too long and not stay competitive.

Not sure what kind of picks people are expecting for Rozier. And this MIA pick has pretty high upside considering if it doesn't convey in 2027, it is unprotected in 2028

 

[PedroKsBambino]

I wonder if what this does is make it easier to trade Herro and get a superior two-way player back, actually. Miami doesn't have much pick equity to add in and probably values Herro more, but I just wonder if this puts him more into play. They've really needed his shooting and shot-creation but Rozier helps there. They probably want the extra scoring, but....

Who says no to Wendell Carter (or, less likely, Jonathan Isaac) and salary slop for Tyler Herro? I guess Miami does, but I'm not sure.

I'm no Kuzma fan, but he's a better fit in Miami than Herro at this point and works straight-up cap-wise.

Don't think GS would do Kuminga/Wiggins for Herro and not sure Miami would, but that's a pretty interesting one.

 

[lovegtm]

I may be in the minority but I think Rozier is not very good and the trade doesn't move the needle much for Miami. He put up a bunch of points on a bad Charlotte roster but he is undersized and his rate and advanced stats are not compelling. I guess Lowry may be over the hill and totally cooked (and based on his recent game log that may indeed be the case) but this appears to me to be just a marginal improvement for Miami.
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I don't put a ton of weight in DARKO when a guy has Rozier's specific skillset and is moving from Charlotte to Heat Culture.

Way better situation for him.

 

[RorschachsMask]

Yikes

View: https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1749879881985606030?

 

[jmcc5400]

I wonder what story that's getting in front of? Can't just be the team's performance, right?

 

[bosockboy]

Do they bring Bud back?

 

[RorschachsMask]

View: https://twitter.com/ChrisBHaynes/status/1749880916737204541

 

[RorschachsMask]

I wonder what story that's getting in front of? Can't just be the team's performance, right?

I don’t know, he was pretty terrible. Butted heads with other coaches, team doesn’t look prepared too often, and the defensive scheme is a disaster. Not that you can do much with that roster when it comes to point of attack defense lol.

 

[Senator Donut]

Is Terry Stotts still available? That would be a hilarious reversal. Barring that, I guess it would be interim coach II Joe Prunty.

 

[DeJesus Built My Hotrod]

I wonder what story that's getting in front of? Can't just be the team's performance, right?

Exact same thoughts. So strange.

 

[Statman]

Hiring Doc should solve all of the Bucks playoff collapse problems.

 

[Red Averages]

Gotta be a story there

 

[Ed Hillel]

WUT