2019 Broncos Changes

luckiestman

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NFC: Some disagreements on order but I think I have to agree on top 7

I disagree about Tampa. They have some players, good coaches and Winston is serviceable.

Need to re evaluate after FA and draft
 

luckiestman

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I feel like Cincinnati is way low. Only thing that jumps out to me. If they have injury luck they should be in the playoff race.
 

j-man

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NFC: Some disagreements on order but I think I have to agree on top 7

I disagree about Tampa. They have some players, good coaches and Winston is serviceable.

Need to re evaluate after FA and draft
Winston is a TO machine Eavns is great but no RB as of now and D-Jackson will be most likey gone no CB Mccoy will be most likey Be cut unlees they can go 5-1 6-0 in the NFC south they are a 7 win team at best in 2019

i will update after FA and the draft
 

j-man

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I feel like Cincinnati is way low. Only thing that jumps out to me. If they have injury luck they should be in the playoff race.
Andy D is not a fit for taylor system A J green might miss the first 4-6 weeks of the season had a bad foot then re-inj it aga denver in late nov their Def has a lot of 1st 2nd round guys that has not played up to their draft spot they do not have a 2 WR Their OL is ave

their front office does not spend in FA
 

j-man

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and elway wants to keep case as a backup for 19 but at 7m i think he will get cut and end up in Minn or NYG
 

j-man

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updates

1 denver in the hall of fame game aga ATL aug 1

2 denver added CB /S KAREEM JACKSON Flacco QB and RT J James Mia and lost C M Pardrillis CAR and Roby Hou Keemem Wash

Jackson is souild but his age + he gives up some big plays at times James will upgrade RT i wanted him 2 years ago

denver is done in FA unless they can get C J Suillian Rams or D Peko back on 1 yr deal and maybe 1 more CB
 

j-man

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Elway was Flacco is “just getting into his prime”
https://www.rotoworld.com/football/nfl/player-news/headlines
we will see if he is 2014 flacco then denver might be a win 1 playoff game and out team

otherwise flacco couild be cut by 2020 or 21 with no dead $

honesty this is a 2 year deal to see if elway fanglo can make 1 more push with miller harris jr in their prime because after 2020 if denver has 2 more seasons like the last 2 V Miller couild be a trade chip to use to get T Lawance from clem
 

j-man

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denver sch
1 Sep 9 at Raiders (MNF) 7:20 PM ESPN
2 Sep 15 vs Bears 2:25 PM FOX
3 Sep 22 at Packers 11:00 AM FOX
4 Sep 29 vs Jaguars 2:25 PM CBS
5 Oct. 6 at Chargers 2:05 PM CBS
6 Oct 13 vs Titans 2:25 PM CBS
7 Oct 17 vs Chiefs (TNF) 6:20 PM NFLN
8 Oct 27 at Colts 2:25 PM CBS
9 Nov 3 vs Browns 2:25 PM CBS
10 Nov 10 BYE
11 Nov 17 at Vikings 11:00 AM CBS
12 Nov 24 at Bills 11:00 AM CBS
13 Dec 1 vs Chargers 2:25 PM CBS
14 Dec 8 at Texans 11:00 AM CBS
15 Dec 15 at Chiefs 11:00 AM CBS
16 TBD - Dec 21/22 vs Lions TBD TBD
17 Dec 29 vs Raiders 2:25 PM CBS

looks like 8-8 with a 4-7 start if denver does not win in week 1 it will be a long year
 

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Elway has a horrible record with QBs so far. Will Lock be different?
Osweiler and Siemian were above-average returns for where they were drafted, Siemian by a lot. Lynch was bad, but the hit rate with QBs in the 20's is a lot lower than people think. Lock will probably amount to nothing - the hit rate in the second is even worse - but the criticism of Elway's QB picks is way overblown.
 

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The point stands that he hasn’t drafted a viable starter in 3 previous tries. But you are right those picks aren’t much different than say Mallett or Brissett.
 

j-man

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denver has a A+ draft utill lock i think lock is a blaine gabbert type but if denver wouild had drafted someone like hakeem buter WR because its likely we lose sanders after next season that wouild had been better
2020 was the year to get a QB if they had to get one this year rosen wouild been a good gamble

but desite that riser OG Fant TE the LB from orgean D Jones DE/DT and D Watson as denth at LB from SF and adding QB B Rynten as a UNFA 5th round vavle

and it looks like C Harris jr will stay
 

luckiestman

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denver sch
1 Sep 9 at Raiders (MNF) 7:20 PM ESPN
2 Sep 15 vs Bears 2:25 PM FOX
3 Sep 22 at Packers 11:00 AM FOX
4 Sep 29 vs Jaguars 2:25 PM CBS
5 Oct. 6 at Chargers 2:05 PM CBS
6 Oct 13 vs Titans 2:25 PM CBS
7 Oct 17 vs Chiefs (TNF) 6:20 PM NFLN
8 Oct 27 at Colts 2:25 PM CBS
9 Nov 3 vs Browns 2:25 PM CBS
10 Nov 10 BYE
11 Nov 17 at Vikings 11:00 AM CBS
12 Nov 24 at Bills 11:00 AM CBS
13 Dec 1 vs Chargers 2:25 PM CBS
14 Dec 8 at Texans 11:00 AM CBS
15 Dec 15 at Chiefs 11:00 AM CBS
16 TBD - Dec 21/22 vs Lions TBD TBD
17 Dec 29 vs Raiders 2:25 PM CBS

looks like 8-8 with a 4-7 start if denver does not win in week 1 it will be a long year
I think closer to 4-12, but predicting this early is tough
 

j-man

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I think closer to 4-12, but predicting this early is tough
denver has a coaching upgrade from last season the key will be can denver get turnovers on def to weather the offense early season stuggs i do think denver will win 5 or 6 at home the Q is can denver win any away from mile high
 

luckiestman

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denver has a coaching upgrade from last season the key will be can denver get turnovers on def to weather the offense early season stuggs i do think denver will win 5 or 6 at home the Q is can denver win any away from mile high

True about the coaches but the division and QB situation are rough. 1-5 in the division is a real possibility. Then you are hit with the NFC north and AFC south. That could be tough. Not too many bad teams on the schedule.

When does Vegas post over/unders? Do you know?
 

j-man

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LAC will be tough but den gets oakland in W 1 and 17 W 1 oakland will be working out the kinks 20 new players Week 17 @ denver most likey oakland will be playing the sting
KC without hill means u can double kecble and dare everyone else to beat u
 

j-man

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J-man, you have CLE moving up and KC moving down. Can you give us a bit of color?
sure

i just think CLE will win the north other than NE who are they betther than i dont trust INDY LAC HOU PITT KC
maybe LB is a weakness for them or Safety

on KC i dont like their Def Mahomes will fall off a littie who is going to rush the passer for them other than F Clark
 

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NFC
1 CHI
2 PHILLY
3 NO
4 DAL
5 LA Rams
6 Minn
7 ATL
8 GB
9 SEA
10 CAR
11 SF
12 DET
13 WASH
14 ZONA
15 NYG
16 TB
 

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1 CHI
2 PHILLY
3 NO
4 DAL
5 LA Rams
6 Minn
7 ATL
8 GB
9 SEA
10 CAR
11 SF
12 DET
13 WASH
14 ZONA
15 NYG
16 TB
Chicago, eh? That's too bad, I was hoping for another chance to wax the city of St. Louis in a championship series.

Wait - what? With all those superior fans and all? Couldn't be!
 

luckiestman

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I have some issues with Denver at 9 but you will be pleased to know that Lombardi was very complimentary of your team on his podcast.


I might be biased because the game I watched more than once last year of the Broncos was the Jets absolutely kicking their ass up and down the field and the Jets were not good.
 

j-man

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I have some issues with Denver at 9 but you will be pleased to know that Lombardi was very complimentary of your team on his podcast.


I might be biased because the game I watched more than once last year of the Broncos was the Jets absolutely kicking their ass up and down the field and the Jets were not good.
is denver too high low

best case is flacco staty healty shows vaule then D Lock playes like a Stafford/jcutler type in preseason denver can win 7-9 games with flacco but can turn over to lock in 2020 because by cutting Flacco leary herman te crans S denver can save around 30 mil off the 2020 cap

unlees Vic is a top 8-10 coach the celling with denver with flacco is 11-5 and lose to NE on Div weekend which wouild be great this year but hopefully by 2021 denver has a deeper talent base of younger players esp at DB WR

by the way pats fan that are reading this in 2020 sanders and c harris jr will be FA'S and great NE fits esp sanders
 

j-man

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Chicago, eh? That's too bad, I was hoping for another chance to wax the city of St. Louis in a championship series.

Wait - what? With all those superior fans and all? Couldn't be!
i was high on dallas but with dak and garrest they are just too dicey
weantz is too brittle
NO can be beat
Rams are weaker than most thinks on def plus wade always has a bad year 2 with a team see den 1994 dal den 1990 was with denver 3 times