Yep, Dustin's putter can go wonky in a hurry, and if that happens, it's anyone's tournament.And it's a ball game
He was always irrelevant. The scoreboard just hasn't caught on yet.Piercy may be irrelevant by the 5th tee
I wasn’t thinking suspension. I was thinking token slap on wrist. Is there a precedent for fine? I honestly don’t know.The USGA isn't going to suspend him. He'll apologize, act embarrassed, and move on. His fans will forget about it, and his haters will add it to the pile.
there is it finally. I ended up going to Youtube at first.I turned on the coverage literally seconds after the Phil meltdown. It's been close to an hour now. CAN THEY SHOW A FUCKING REPLAY? I mean, Jesus Christ, you just showed every shot the guy took over the last 3 holes in an 81 round. You'd think you could show us what you're fucking talking about this whole time?
It's his birthday, they should have given him a pass. 48 year old California boy, he is just preparing for the senior tour. They should not only allow it, but encourage that play on the senior circuit.Kind of thing you do with your drunk buddies in a scramble
Probably. But he did finish T2 when DJ won at Oakmont.He was always irrelevant. The scoreboard just hasn't caught on yet.
Yep, just saw it too. I have to say, that's a tough call for the rules committee. He definitely violated 14-5 or whatever it is, taking a stroke and hitting a moving ball, but I absolutely see the argument for 1.2, which is altering the course of a shot or something like that, which would be like deflecting a ball, and I'd argue just because he took a stroke in the process of deflecting his prior shot shouldn't alleviate it?there is it finally. I ended up going to Youtube at first.
1.2 would have had him DQ’d. They absolutely should have gone with 1.2 but didn’t because it was Phil. A non-star gets the DQ there. It’s BS and against the spirit of the sport to not enforce the rules evenly across all players. This isn’t the NBA.Yep, just saw it too. I have to say, that's a tough call for the rules committee. He definitely violated 14-5 or whatever it is, taking a stroke and hitting a moving ball, but I absolutely see the argument for 1.2, which is altering the course of a shot or something like that, which would be like deflecting a ball, and I'd argue just because he took a stroke in the process of deflecting his prior shot shouldn't alleviate it?
I guess my question is if there is a difference in the penalty if you violate 14.5, versus 1.2?
I had a feeling that must have been the difference. I agree with you. I don't know how they can make that ruling. Phil basically just said he didn't feel like running back and forth and hitting the same shot, so he did it on purpose, and took the 2 shot penalty. I don't get how that ruling makes any sense.1.2 would have had him DQ’d. They absolutely should have gone with 1.2 but didn’t because it was Phil. A non-star gets the DQ there. It’s BS and against the spirit of the sport to not enforce the rules evenly across all players. This isn’t the NBA.
Lol boo hoo. He carded a 10.1.2 would have had him DQ’d. They absolutely should have gone with 1.2 but didn’t because it was Phil. A non-star gets the DQ there. It’s BS and against the spirit of the sport to not enforce the rules evenly across all players. This isn’t the NBA.
Completely agree. Didn't help that Joe Buck spent 20 minutes talking about it and making it worse than it was.So I'm reading on Twitter that a lot of people are pissed at Phil My question to them is, "Who cares?" It's a penalty, he took his medicine, but it's not like he took a dump on the game or the course. He was frustrated.
The only person he hurt there was himself.
That's the argument though. He basically violated two rules at the same time. He's acting like he knew they would simply give him a 2 stroke penalty for putting a ball while it was in motion, but he was the one that put it in motion in the first place, and there is a different rule for purposely affecting the course of a shot, which would be a disqualification instead of a 2 stroke penalty.I have to admit that after listening to his interview his actions make more sense. Watching it live I was not used to seeing someone jogging after his ball to make sure it didn’t roll off by putting in motion and taking whatever penalty instead. Yep.. that was a first for me.
His shoes are a soapbox. Dude lives on it, so he doesn't have to get up.And Joe Buck gets on his self righteous soap box
What were his comments?I have to admit that after listening to his interview his actions make more sense. Watching it live I was not used to seeing someone jogging after his ball to make sure it didn’t roll off by putting in motion and taking whatever penalty instead. Yep.. that was a first for me.
He basically said he knew the rule, knew he'd get hit with a 2 stroke penalty, didn't feel like running after the ball and hitting another shot from off the green where he was before, so he hit it and tried to get it as close to the hole as he could.What were his comments?
Maybe lastThe wind picking up is going to make for a tough afternoon. Berger and Finau are likely going to have very late tee times tomorrow.
That's interesting, thanks for that.I’ve been quickly looking for some blurbs online and read this one:https://www.sbnation.com/golf/2018/6/16/17471068/phil-mickelson-putts-moving-ball
Yep, typo. Definitely not -13.^ you mean +13 I assume?
I understand it must be frustrating to hit perfect shots and the course just betraying you, but everyone is in the same boat.
My home course from age 9 to 18 was a PGA Tour venue, so I think I have a pretty good feel for this topic. (IIRC, -27 was the best 72-hole score in a Tour event at my course.) The issue for me is that advances in golf club and ball technology have disproportionately favored professionals who can get the most out of it - in the old days, they were of course still much better than 10-handicappers, but they didn't hit the ball so much further and spin the ball so much more than them as they do now.I don't know guys. Have any of you had a chance to play TPC Norton the week before or the week after these guys come through there for the Deuchebank? They absolutely destroy that course usually (after Vijay shot a 61 there in a driving rainstorm, they added like 1,000 trees and about 300 yards, IIRC) to the tune of -20 winners, but it's still amazingly hard. I'd be shocked if most 10 handicaps can play that course from where they play from, and shoot 100. I think these guys are just really, really fucking good, so it's really hard to actually set up a course that they can't feast on.
The problem is they are so good that the only way to set up a course that feasts on them, you have to go to the point of just about making it unfair. IMO, if you hit a good golf shot, you should be rewarded for it. These guys are hitting great shots, and they just have no chance to hold a green, or get it within 50 feet of a hole. They're putting the ball to the hole, and then having it come back down to them. That's mini-golf shit, IMO.
I remember all the righteous outrage at Tiger making an improper drop at the Masters. And now Phil does something worse that anything I’ve ever seen from a pro golfer not named John Daly and everyone is all “oh, it’s just Phil.”The USGA isn't going to suspend him. He'll apologize, act embarrassed, and move on. His fans will forget about it, and his haters will add it to the pile.
By the by, what have you seen from John Daly that was worse than what Phil did? (What Phil did was pretty egregious...and him trying to justify it rather than apologize for it afterwards was even worse.)I remember all the righteous outrage at Tiger making an improper drop at the Masters. And now Phil does something worse that anything I’ve ever seen from a pro golfer not named John Daly and everyone is all “oh, it’s just Phil.”
He should be DQ’d and there’s really not a question about it.
Didn't John Daly once turn around on a tee box, and rip a driver right over the spectators heads while shitfaced? And that's probably on the "well, it's just Daly being Daly part of the spectrum." Amazingly, golf seemed a little less self-righteous back then. It's like it's making a circle from stuffy to not as stuffy to stuff again. The stuffiness curve is pretty much the same as Tiger's career.By the by, what have you seen from John Daly that was worse than what Phil did? (What Phil did was pretty egregious...and him trying to justify it rather than apologize for it afterwards was even worse.)