2016 Bills: BRexit
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Hey remember when everyone said it was a bad idea for Rex to play Watkins with a sore foot against the Jets.....
Watkins to IR.
Watkins to IR.
Trump has divided the Bills locker room: http://thelab.bleacherreport.com/donald-trump-is-tearing-the-nfl-apart/
Congrats again to the Bills for beating a third string, rookie QB who required surgery on the thumb on his throwing hand. Just an outstanding effort.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/colin-kaepernick-starting-for-49ers-in-week-6/
Your average working class Bills fan from Tonawanda or Cheektowaga or South Buffalo is not going to be happy to see this guy.
This might be the loudest cascade of boos sports fans ever see. And I'd probably pencil this in as Bills win #4.
Your average working class Bills fan from Tonawanda or Cheektowaga or South Buffalo is not going to be happy to see this guy.
This might be the loudest cascade of boos sports fans ever see. And I'd probably pencil this in as Bills win #4.
Gabbert is 9-31 as an NFL starter (for some pretty shitty teams, obviously). He's easily one of the worst starters in the NFL, if not the worst. The Bills should beat this team regardless of who's starting at QB, but I have to think it's nearly impossible for the team to produce worse with Kaep than Gabbert.
No disagreement there.
Forget the anthem stuff -- has a QB flamed out quite like Kap? What the hell happened to that guy?
The simple answer to that would be he's more or less a 1 trick pony and defenses were quick to catch up. I think of him as a more durable RG3.
My first thought was Rick Mirer since he was 2nd in ROY voting his rookie year, only behind Jerome Bettis, then saw this stat from Wikipedia:
Then I looked at his stat line: 2833 yards, 12 TD, 17 INT. I know it was a different era but that guy was a ROY runner up?
In terms of what happened I think, like GeorgeCostanza, he was a bit of a one trick pony but from reports he was full of himself, his locker room didn't like him and was also lazy. He reminds me of a child actor at 12 who has all the success and goes down in flames.
I dunno. I still remember the Pats kept him in the pocket all game and he absolutely torched the D with his arm. There's also the total dysfunction that has permeated that organization since they peaked three or four years ago. Kaepernick went from maybe the best supporting cast in the league to maybe the worst in the span of two years. He was probably never as good as he looked when he had the best OL, defense, TEs, etc., and not as bad as he'd looked the past couple years surrounded by garbage.
Mike Rodak @mikerodak 18m18 minutes ago
Rex Ryan announces RB LeSean McCoy injured his hamstring in Wednesday's practice and did not finish. Bills are...
http://es.pn/2e6WWRm
Rex Ryan announces RB LeSean McCoy injured his hamstring in Wednesday's practice and did not finish. Bills are...
http://es.pn/2e6WWRm 
Yup. People love to focus on QBs and ignore supporting casts.
Tom Brady put up a DVOA of 15.5% in 2006 and 54.5% in 2007 when we replaced his receivers.
That's the difference between Carson Palmer (2015) and Josh McNown(2015), or Drew Brees(2015) and Nick Foles(2015).
The thing about Kaepernick is that he went from legitimately being one of the top 5 quarterbacks in the NFL (according to DVOA) to being below replacement level in about 3 years - but pretty much the same thing happened across the entire 49ers roster. Important defensive players decided they just didn't want to play anymore, pretty much every good vet has walked in FA - etc. There's a huge organizational issue (that hopefully for them was Harbuagh).
Kaepernick has a strong arm, questionable timing, and can run like hell - but the 49ers basically have him working out of a west coast style offense based on short passing (which not only is unsuited to his passing skills, it draws defenders close to the LOS which minimizes his running ability).
Given the relative careers since the divorce of Harbaugh and Trent Baalke, I'm going with "not Harbaugh." But fish rot from the head. I lived in SF for much of that rise and fall and I will never ever take Bob Kraft for granted again.
Could we be catching yet another break next week?
Josina Anderson @JosinaAnderson 4m4 minutes ago
I'm told #Bills RB LeSean McCoy (hamstring) is not playing this Sunday and could miss more time thereafter, depending on healing.
Josina Anderson @JosinaAnderson 4m4 minutes ago
I'm told #Bills RB LeSean McCoy (hamstring) is not playing this Sunday and could miss more time thereafter, depending on healing.
In the interest of performing pseudo-science on pseudo-science, I decided to average the rankings of some of the team strength stats, as well as some power rankings. For the stats, I used ESPN's FPI, 538's ELO, and Football Outsider's DVOA and DAVE. Then I also looked at ESPN's Power Rankings, Pro Football Focus's team rank (apparently just their stats with a human adjustment for things like injuries, etc.), etc.. The Bills were the 4th ranked team in the NFL by just the stats ranks, 7th if you average just the human ranks, and 5th if you averaged all of them together. At this point, I think that the game @BUF will tell us a lot more than this upcoming game @PIT, and that might have been true even if Ben played...
Good post, and good point. The Bills actually own the best point differential in the league at +59. Pats are 2nd at +58, Vikes 3rd at +56 (but have only played 5 games).
Yeah, for what it's worth, the Vikes were the clear leader in the overall average I took as well as the 'stats only' version (though NE was the leader in all three human rankings, presumably because people adjusted for Brady-less games). Seems like the consensus is MIN/NE/SEA are the cream of the crop, and then DAL/BUF/DEN/ATL/PIT/ARI/GB/PHI are clustered just behind.
I agree with these general tiers, crazy how much mediocrity there is in that 2nd tier
LeSean McCoy: 8 rushes for 11 yards and exits after predictably re-injuring his hamstring. The four straight wins must have gotten to Rexy's head, because putting McCoy out there versus the lowly Phins was dumb. Especially dumb since last year they saw the results of not letting McCoy heal up from hamstring problems last year. Tangentially dumb after watching Watkins play through foot problems leading to his IR stint. I can't imagine Bills fans are too happy today.
Potentially no McCoy, no Woods on top of no Watkins this Sunday. Thanks, Rex.
Potentially no McCoy, no Woods on top of no Watkins this Sunday. Thanks, Rex.
The Bills really killed any chances they had of stealing the AFC East yesterday. Next week becomes basically a must-win for them in that regard. If they lose they fall 3 games behind the Pats with a 3rd division loss. They ain't coming back from that.
This is their schedule coming up:
NE
@SEA
BYE
@CIN
JAX
@OAK
PIT
That's a pretty brutal stretch. I don't see how they do any better than 4-2, which I think is not very likely. Even if they do that, they're still 8-5.
NE
@SEA
BYE
@CIN
JAX
@OAK
PIT
That's a pretty brutal stretch. I don't see how they do any better than 4-2, which I think is not very likely. Even if they do that, they're still 8-5.
I honestly think if Rex could sweep the season series with NE and lose the next four games by a combined score of 400 to 6, he would take it and then come out talking about competing for a wild card and how nobody wants to have to see them in the playoffs.
Is this a dildo I see in front of me, with its helmet pointing toward my hand?
Come, let me hold you. (he grabs at the air in front of him without touching anything)
I don’t have you but I can still see you. Fateful apparition, isn’t it possible to touch you as well as see you? Or are you nothing more than a dildo created by the mind, a hallucination from my fevered brain? I can still see you, and you look as real as this other dildo that I’m pulling out now...
Not sure if they play this way on a weekly basis or if it just against the Pats, but since Rex has been in Buffalo, I've watched a very good defense turn into a very undisciplined and wreckless defense. That must be a byproduct of the "bully" that he promised to build.
He tried to undercut it, but Brady threw the ball into a mailbox and the defender was screwed.
Second hand info, as I'm not a Bills fan, but those I know seem to feel like there was a very cool building project going on with the defense and the old defense coordinator that basically got blowed up when the Ryans came to town.
I feel like the older I get, the more stock I put in building from the ground up.
That was certainly the case on the Hogan TD. Hogan caught the call and the DB (defensive back - I am not making character judgements ) turned around and seemed to look for where the safety help was.
It's not just Rex's hire. The Bills have a pattern that every three or four years they bring in a new defensive mind that switches them from a 3-4 to a 4-3 or vice versa. There are always babies that go out with the bathwater.
Isn't overhauling the D entirely "building from the ground up?" Or do you mean firing the owner?
Jim Schwartz was running the D with Marrone as coach. They were 5th in the league in defense in their last year together. The Rex show arrived, blew that shit up and fired Schwartz, and the defense promptly regressed again.
Had the Bills any type of sense, they would have named Schwartz the coach once Marrone up and left.
Had the Bills any type of sense, they would have named Schwartz the coach once Marrone up and left.
Bills are 16th in YPG against and 13th in PPG against after finishing last year 19th and 16th, respectively - progress!
Of course in 2014 they were 4th in both
Of course in 2014 they were 4th in both
Classic Rex quote.
Regarding Brady:
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/17928619/for-rex-ryan-buffalo-bills-new-england-patriots-already-too-far-gone-2016-nfl-afc-east
edit: added link
Regarding Brady:
First, he acknowledges that Brady is awesome, but then he makes it seem like normally they handle Brady just fine except "maybe" one other time. He tops it off by saying "he scorched me", as if it's a one on one game, Rex vs. Tom.
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/17928619/for-rex-ryan-buffalo-bills-new-england-patriots-already-too-far-gone-2016-nfl-afc-east
edit: added link
Yeah I mean aside from the 40+ Brady dropped in Buffalo last year, and Thanksgiving 2012, and the 45-3 game, and the 37 Brady put up in NY in 2011. Brady's career PPG against Rex is like 28 or 29.