2014 PGA Championship- Valhalla
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We should just bring the Walker Cup team that smoked 'em last year and see if that tricks them into only playing amateurs too.
Bob Montgomery's Helmet Hat said:
Which is why you'll probably win it in a glorious comeback on the Sunday.
That's just not true at all. Tiger had the best four year stretch of all time between 99-03 while with Butch winning 29 times and 7 majors. Between 04-09 Tiger won 34 times and 6 majors under Haney.Average Reds said:
99 was the year Tiger asserted that Butch's changes were fully implemented and then went on to have the best season of all time in 2000. With Butch, Tiger's worst year with the driver was as good as any year with Haney. Tiger always struggled with the driver under Haney and the laid off swing Haney taught.
Tiger's 2000 season will never be replicated.
About to start up again.
PGA decided not to restart and play lift, clean, and place. They're playing it down. Get ready for a lot of mud balls.
PGA decided not to restart and play lift, clean, and place. They're playing it down. Get ready for a lot of mud balls.
Bingo. There is way too much shaft lean with the driver at impact and it's completely obvious to everyone. The fact that Foley has not fixed this (though we don't know if he's trying or not) is a big red flag. It's his biggest issue right now.Over Guapo Grande said:
One of Foley's ex proteges as well as Paul Azinger think it's time for a change too...FL4WL3SS said:
Tiger should leave his coach
Papelbon's Poutine said:
I remember Tiger saying that the move to Haney was about building a swing that his body would tolerate over the long run, and I have previously seen comments about the need for him to reduce the torque he placed on his left knee. So this is consistent.
And yes, I did have a brain cramp on the timing - confusing the initial rebuild in '98/99 with the move to Haney. (I am getting old and forgetful. Mea culpa.)
Tiger's first two swing changes were unprecedented in the sense that he came out of both playing better than anyone in the world. His third is not going as well.
I'm not sure many people realize, but Tiger first hooked up with Butch in 93. Butch's genius comes from his ability to take a guy and not completely overhaul his swing and work with his natural ability, which is what he did with Tiger from 93-98. In 98 Tiger and Butch came to the conclusion that they needed to make some significant changes to his swing for it to be consistent over the long haul. Tiger used to flip at the ball, ala Couples, and Butch got him with a more bowed wrist at impact in 99.Average Reds said:
Freddy Linn said:
That was so lame. He and his caddy wipe down the club for like two minutes, then he hits an awful drive and complains to his caddy.
And just now on 8, he puts his drive in the water and whines "doesn't matter what I do. Fucking horseshit."
Freddy Linn said:
Bubba's making a lot of friends this week. His "long drive" stunt was just the thing to get people to realize how much of a blowhard he is. And how obnoxious, too.
The stupid thing is he's T12. -2 for the round, -3 for the tournament. He's getting roasted on twitter.
Tiger did win five events last year (no one else won more than two) and was player of the year. The critique of his game this season is going a bit far, we're dealing with insanely small sample sizes of one round, one tournament, etc. all while he's either been playing through back pain or trying to come back from back surgery. It's a lost season for him, and that's fine. So was Nicklaus' 1979 season.Average Reds said:
It all comes down to health. Tiger showed in 2013 that he still has plenty of good golf in him, let's see if he can start 2015 with a healthy back and then go from there. If his back is OK and allows him to put in the practice time, he'll win again...and soon I bet.
If his back is NOT going to allow that...
This is probably oversimplifying things, but if Bubba went by Gerry instead, I think he'd be a lot less popular.
And Rory just made eagle at the 18th (his 9th) to take the lead at -8. He looks calm and focused.
Bubba with a poor shot out of the rough. Tosses his club in the air and makes his caddy pick it up.
Corsi said:
I'm going to assume Katie is the nanny because it makes zero sense to have 4 kids in first class if the nanny is in coach.
TNT crew talking about Stricker playing himself onto the Ryder Cup squad.
Since he's Tiger's binkie....
Since he's Tiger's binkie....
mascho said:
Are they seriously talking about TIger making the squad. Unless he shoots 68 or better and makes the cut today, I can't see any way Watson has a choice to keep him. He is a bloody mess right now, and has no chances to show otherwise between now and selection.
I guess USA Golf may figure they've already lost, so they just give up and put the TV names on there and not even try to win
BigMike said:
No, they were talking about Stricker playing himself into an automatic qualifier position with a strong finish at the PGA. Any Tiger speculation was on my part. Sorry if unclear.
In fairness, Watson may not have much of a choice. Right now I'm guessing the 11 "locks" are:
Bubba, Furyk, Walker, Spieth, Reed, Mickelson, Bradley, Todd, ZJ, Kuchar and Dufner.
Who is the 12th? Chris Kirk? Plus Dufner's injury looks pretty serious and he may not be able to play, so they'd need to go down to #14.
Just a bad year for USA golf. Snedeker has been injured and stuck in neutral, Mahan hasn't taken a step forward, Webb Simpson has been MIA in the calandar year. There aren't a lot of good options to choose from. As shaky as he has been, if he is healthy (and that's a big if) Woods may be their best bet.
Bubba, Furyk, Walker, Spieth, Reed, Mickelson, Bradley, Todd, ZJ, Kuchar and Dufner.
Who is the 12th? Chris Kirk? Plus Dufner's injury looks pretty serious and he may not be able to play, so they'd need to go down to #14.
Just a bad year for USA golf. Snedeker has been injured and stuck in neutral, Mahan hasn't taken a step forward, Webb Simpson has been MIA in the calandar year. There aren't a lot of good options to choose from. As shaky as he has been, if he is healthy (and that's a big if) Woods may be their best bet.
Now that I think about it, bring Na along and pair him with Furyk. Those two will drive the Europeans so nuts they'll forfeit those matches. Any easy 4 points right there! Now about finding the other 10.5 points needed...
Watching old Tiger highlights really hurts. Age, scandals, surgeries, it all broke him. He's not the same player.
Yeah, that footage of his duel with May, running down that putt into the cup. Hurts is right.johnmd20 said:
There is no point in him finishing. He's clearly in pain, just get out of there and get ready for 2015.
Sucks.
Sucks.
