Sounds about right, going on year three of this. Just save this post for the next game. And the game after that. And after that. And so on.Probably the most encouraged I've been by a Mac performance since his rookie year. He's not perfect, his arm is pretty weak, he makes some subpar decisions and some slow decisions, but he did everything he needed to to give the Pats a chance to win. They just fell a little short.
LOLOLOL. Let’s see if he can learn to keep his feet inbounds first.Boutte will be the WR1 by mid season.
You know he had 54 attempts today, right?Mac might have to make 40 attempts next week against Miami
Can't believe Mac fumbled on that 2nd driveThe first 3 drives were putrid
You can’t ignore them
Man there are alot of good QBs in the AFC.Mahomes
Herbert
Tua
Allen
Rodgers
Jackson
Burrow
Lawrence
Watson
Jimmy G
Mac seems better than Wilson, Pickett, and Levis. Stroud and Richardson? Prob this year.
More or less, yeah. I don’t think that’s really that crazy.You think 12 QBs in the AFC are better than Mac?
It’s like it would be hard to supplant the other guys. He’s shown speed and the ability to get open.LOLOLOL. Let’s see if he can learn to keep his feet inbounds first.
Same thing as last year.The offense looked good at times but end of the day they only scored 20. They also started 5 drives at their own 40 or better and turned that favorable field position into 0 points.
He was sacked twice all gameMac played great today? Seriously?
Every big possession, he took sacks. Any kid who plays Madden knows to throw the ball away and not get sacked. He is absolute garbage. 15-20 other QBs in the league win this fame
Can we also then talk of how lucky he was not to throw a pick 6 on a screen and an interception on a ball that hung in the air for two hours to a wide open Bourne? How about a terrible pass on 4th down to a wide open Henry that he saved with an amazing one handed snag? Or do those not count on the "results which didn't reflect his process" column? He had a horrific first quarter, an exceptional second quarter, a bad third and a good fourth. Overall: fine. You'd think I was calling for him to be benched or something.Yet, you're completely ignoring the fact that they could have put up much better numbers if Boutte gets his fucking feet down for over 30 yards of completions, JuJu doesn't drop an easy one, Bourne doesn't drop one on third and 13, and Hunter Henry isn't called for a phantom hold on a 2nd and 9 run that was a first down?
But yeah, let's blame Mac for all of those drives stalling out.
This. Only teams with unproven rookies or washed up vets have worse situations.More or less, yeah. I don’t think that’s really that crazy.
I think people who are praising Mac are discounting how much the league is tilted towards QBs and how relatively high the level of QB talent is in the league at the moment. Mac being a “solid” QB with no mobility and bad arm strength puts him in the bottom tier of NFL QBs.
the early round drafting of receivers has been woeful. Without that, they wouldn’t be taking fliers on boutteA 6th round pick getting open in his rookie year is not a bad pick...god people love to shit on BB for the stupidest things.
BB probably cost them the game and you are complaining about a 6th round wr playing and contributing.
The offense plays like a .250 team and the defense like a .750 team.As has been the case since Brady left, the O just isn’t quite good enough. It’s not solely on the QB. There’s constant mistakes by every unit.
We’re a .500 team and that’s because we play like one. Particularly offensively. Some good, some bad, and the only consistent thing is that we’re inconsistent.
I don't disagree. I'm happy to give him a few more games this season to see if he can get to the next level when he's not playing against a top defense and some of his new receivers have a chance to adjust to life in the NFL/Pats huddle. But I'm ready to cut bait on him later this season if he's not the guy.Sounds about right, going on year three of this. Just save this post for the next game. And the game after that. And after that. And so on.
So he didn't throw a pick 6, and the ball to Bourne was undethrown?Can we also then talk of how lucky he was not to throw a pick 6 on a screen and an interception on a ball that hung in the air for two hours to a wide open Bourne? How about a terrible pass on 4th down to a wide open Henry that he saved with an amazing one handed snag? Or do those not count on the "results which didn't reflect his process" column? He had a horrific first quarter, an exceptional second quarter, a bad third and a good fourth. Overall: fine. You'd think I was calling for him to be benched or something.
It’s closeYou think 12 QBs in the AFC are better than Mac?
Mac's weapons and line aren't great. They didn't elevate him today.Yet, you're completely ignoring the fact that they could have put up much better numbers if Boutte gets his fucking feet down for over 30 yards of completions, JuJu doesn't drop an easy one, Bourne doesn't drop one on third and 13, and Hunter Henry isn't called for a phantom hold on a 2nd and 9 run that was a first down?
But yeah, let's blame Mac for all of those drives stalling out.
He didn't throw a pick 6 and he didn't throw an interception on the underthrow. Both results that had nothing to do with the quality of his throws. Just like on the drops you brought up. Can't take one without the other.So he didn't throw a pick 6, and the ball to Bourne was undethrown?
Do you remember what happened on those drives?
Yeah.This. Only teams with unproven rookies or washed up vets have worse situations.
Ludicrous. Those who continue to die on the hill that is Mac while not recognizing his utter lack of ability to execute in the clutch borders on the purposely obtuse.Because too many Pats fans have only watched Tom Brady for the last 20 years.
The Venn diagram of people that shit on Mac after every incompletion and people that only watch highlights of other games and Pats games is a circle.
He’s better than Wilson and Tanny at this point. Jimmy G. might be a little better on the Patriots but he’s not a better QB than Mac. The young guys are unproven but could have more potential. Pickett looked bad today.It’s close
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3 in his division
3 in the North
1 in the South
2 in the west
Thats for sure
Then it’s depends how you rate
Russell Wilson
Jimmy G
Tanny
then younger guys
Pickett
Stroud
Richardson
Yeah this about sums it up. The problem is they have no one thing that they do consistently well on offense. Really good play calling might make up for a lack of talent. A great QB might make mediocre receivers looks better than they are, or vice versa. A good OL can cover up a lot of flaws.As has been the case since Brady left, the O just isn’t quite good enough. It’s not solely on the QB. There’s constant mistakes by every unit.
We’re a .500 team and that’s because we play like one. Particularly offensively. Some good, some bad, and the only consistent thing is that we’re inconsistent.
Kinda impressive. Mahomes throws imperfect pass - receiver fault. Forgot Mac put crisco all over the passes to JuJu and HHBecause too many Pats fans have only watched Tom Brady for the last 20 years.
The Venn diagram of people that shit on Mac after every incompletion and people that only watch highlights of other games and Pats games is a circle.
There’s no one dying on the hill that is Mac. The only thing ludicrous or obtuse is your post.Ludicrous. Those who continue to die on the hill that is Mac while not recognizing his utter lack of ability to execute in the clutch borders on the purposely obtuse.
The HH throw was just a bad decision to be fair. It had like a 5% success rate to get a first. Better off throwing up a Flacco.Kinda impressive. Mahomes throws imperfect pass - receiver fault. Forgot Mac put crisco all over the passes to JuJu and HH
I chuckled.I blame @Section15Box113 for his inexplicable loss of faith in this team and refusal to state that we would win this game.
This. Yes I was impressed that he didn’t turn into a complete puddle after the two turnovers, but he’s never going to be good enough to win at a high level in this league.Sounds about right, going on year three of this. Just save this post for the next game. And the game after that. And after that. And so on.
I saw him "jogging" on that 3rd & 11, but didn't see Hurts go any faster the rest of the day. And it's week 1, so don't think it was for reason of injury? Certainly a top half QB, but he didn't impress.Hurts is overrated. I’d take him over Mac, but he isn’t the next big thing.
Yeah, and those two sacks came on the final two drives and resulted in 3rd and 12 and 3rd and 13.He was sacked twice all game
Sure I can.He didn't throw a pick 6 and he didn't throw an interception on the underthrow. Both results that had nothing to do with the quality of his throws. Just like on the drops you brought up. Can't take one without the other.
As has been the case since Brady left, the O just isn’t quite good enough. It’s not solely on the QB. There’s constant mistakes by every unit.
We’re a .500 team and that’s because we play like one. Particularly offensively. Some good, some bad, and the only consistent thing is that we’re inconsistent.
These two posts nail it for me.Mac's weapons and line aren't great. They didn't elevate him today.
But what happened in the game tonight has been the same thing with different pieces around Mac since he got here. Medium performance, ups and downs, and unable to put together a drive when the game is on the line, ending in a loss. They just have no margin for error with what he gives the team.
Was this game explicitly Mac's fault? No. But they have very consistently lost games like this, which tells me a team built around Mac isn't the answer.
How did he not execute when Boutte couldn't get his feet down, twice? How did he not execute when Bourne dropped a massive third down pass in his hands, how did he not execute when the refs called holding on Henry, and then when Trent Brown tackled his man on a successful 2 point conversation? How did he not execute when he put them into field goal range, and instead, Bill decided to go for it?Ludicrous. Those who continue to die on the hill that is Mac while not recognizing his utter lack of ability to execute in the clutch borders on the purposely obtuse.
I'm not expecting perfection at all, I just think today was a very uneven, rollercoaster day from him and in the end he absolutely wasn't the reason you lost, but he didn't play at a super high level either. I don't know what to say, honestly, like, if you're telling me right now tonight was a top tier Mac Jones game, I want to move on immediately. I don't think it was, I think he can play better than that. Maybe you guys should spend some more energy arguing with the people who are in fact blaming him for the result, instead of me and my lukewarm take.Sure I can.
There were 5 drives that stalled that had absolutely nothing to do with Mac Jones. Absolutely nothing.
Awesome, Hunter Henry made a great play. It's literally what he's fucking paid to do, glad he finally made a difficult catch after 2 years. Then he drops another that cost the team 15 yards in field position.
You people are expecting perfection. I know this will come as a surprise, it's not going to happen.
The offense scored 20 today, that number is 22 if Trent Brown doesn't tackle someone on the 2 point conversion, that number is 25 if BB kicks a field goal when he should have. If they don't call a phantom hold on Henry, it's at least 28, if Boutte gets his feet down the first time, it's at least 31. Then that last drive doesn't even matter, where Boutte can't get his feet down, if Bourne makes a catch on third down, again, that last drive likely doesn't matter.
Mac is not Tom Brady, he's not Mahomes, he never will be. But with the right team and players making plays that NFL players have to fucking make, he's consistently putting them in the right spots.
And to see him catch shit for the result today is myopic, it's stupid, it makes no sense. He put the team in a position to win, and it was his teammates and coaches that didn't get it done. Zeke Elliott fumbles, and 90% of the posts in here talked about how Mac made a bad throw. It's fucking insanity.
Both of which, Mac made great throws on, and one receiver dropped the pass, and the other receiver forgot you need two feet down in the NFL.Yeah, and those two sacks came on the final two drives and resulted in 3rd and 12 and 3rd and 13.
i love you. Your last posts saved me an hour of yelling at the Internet.How did he not execute when Boutte couldn't get his feet down, twice? How did he not execute when Bourne dropped a massive third down pass in his hands, how did he not execute when the refs called holding on Henry, and then when Trent Brown tackled his man on a successful 2 point conversation? How did he not execute when he put them into field goal range, and instead, Bill decided to go for it?
Walk me through this.
Move on to what exactly? Im 50/50 on Mac and believe he’s not the answer and not the worst. What’s your plan for moving on? Tanking? Zappe?I'm not expecting perfection at all, I just think today was a very uneven, rollercoaster day from him and in the end he absolutely wasn't the reason you lost, but he didn't play at a super high level either. I don't know what to say, honestly, like, if you're telling me right now tonight was a top tier Mac Jones game, I want to move on immediately. I don't think it was, I think he can play better than that. Maybe you guys should spend some more energy arguing with the people who are in fact blaming him for the result, instead of me and my lukewarm take.
If you tell me this game is as good a game as Mac Jones could possibly play, I'm drafting someone else in the first round next year. Luckily, I disagree with that notion.Move on to what exactly? Im 50/50 on Mac and believe he’s not the answer and not the worst. What’s your plan for moving on? Tanking? Zappe?
I don't feel like arguing but the Pats D put the Pats in a position to win and overcame a few obstacles that the offense created.Sure I can.
There were 5 drives that stalled that had absolutely nothing to do with Mac Jones. Absolutely nothing.
Awesome, Hunter Henry made a great play. It's literally what he's fucking paid to do, glad he finally made a difficult catch after 2 years. Then he drops another that cost the team 15 yards in field position.
You people are expecting perfection. I know this will come as a surprise, it's not going to happen.
The offense scored 20 today, that number is 22 if Trent Brown doesn't tackle someone on the 2 point conversion, that number is 25 if BB kicks a field goal when he should have. If they don't call a phantom hold on Henry, it's at least 28, if Boutte gets his feet down the first time, it's at least 31. Then that last drive doesn't even matter, where Boutte can't get his feet down, if Bourne makes a catch on third down, again, that last drive likely doesn't matter.
Mac is not Tom Brady, he's not Mahomes, he never will be. But with the right team and players making plays that NFL players have to fucking make, he's consistently putting them in the right spots.
And to see him catch shit for the result today is myopic, it's stupid, it makes no sense. He put the team in a position to win, and it was his teammates and coaches that didn't get it done. Zeke Elliott fumbles, and 90% of the posts in here talked about how Mac made a bad throw. It's fucking insanity.