Lynn is definitely auditioning for the job and will definitely be interviewed after the season for the permanent gig.
If Rob Ryan gets another DC job then shame on the head coach that hires him. He is nothing more than position coach this point.
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If Rob Ryan gets another DC job then shame on the head coach that hires him. He is nothing more than position coach this point.
More Bills sads - Reggie Bush is set to become the first back in 60 years to finish the season with negative yardage on ten or more rushes:
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/news/if-bills-reggie-bush-doesnt-run-for-4-yards-sunday-he-could-make-some-sad-history-153939401.html
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/news/if-bills-reggie-bush-doesnt-run-for-4-yards-sunday-he-could-make-some-sad-history-153939401.html
The other advantage with Lynn is that he knows the assets the Bills have, such as they are. In particular, he (unlike the big names Whaley is apparently repulsing) probably is ok with being attached at the hip to Tyrod. At least for the time being. Still, I'm struggling to see how Whaley isn't part of the problem in Buffalo.
One question: before Lynn was promoted to OC, were he and Rob both assistant head coaches under Rex (Wikipedia had him listed as Assistant HC/Running Backs coach).
One question: before Lynn was promoted to OC, were he and Rob both assistant head coaches under Rex (Wikipedia had him listed as Assistant HC/Running Backs coach).
So this is a repeat of the Dirk Koetter / Lovie Smith thing in Tampa last year. This is a weird new (?) trend in the league where you fire HCs to avoid losing promising coordinators. Of course, I wonder if the Bears would like to redo the decision to keep Fox and lose Gase or the Bengals would still prefer to have Lewis over Zimmer/Gruden/HueJack.
Rex has to go to TV for a few years and let his "brand" re-build a bit before he takes his third stab at coaching, right? Or if Gruden to the Rams happens does Kroenke pay huge freight to bring in Rex to run a talented defense that has players who would fit his ridiculously complicated and only occasionally effective schemes well.
Rex has to go to TV for a few years and let his "brand" re-build a bit before he takes his third stab at coaching, right? Or if Gruden to the Rams happens does Kroenke pay huge freight to bring in Rex to run a talented defense that has players who would fit his ridiculously complicated and only occasionally effective schemes well.
Whaley may or may not be a good executive, but all indications were that team president Russ Brandon was behind the Rex Ryan hire, to the point that he gave pointers to Rex on how to impress Pegula prior to his interview with the owner, then told the Pegulas to 'make sure Ryan doesn't walk out that door' without hiring him. Sadly for Bills fans, there is no indication that Brandon's influence has waned with the Pegulas.
Or everyone else will play the "They were decent before you arrived, sucked while you were here, and decent after you left, maybe it's you" card.
Agreed, that card will get played as well. Not that Rex will pay any attention to it
You are both benched for the first series of the dolphins game (thread).
Per Rotoworld:
Jason La Canfora of CBS Sports reports the Bills made the decision to move on from Tyrod Taylor (groin) "weeks ago."
Taylor has been benched for Week 17 and might need groin surgery despite being left off the final injury report. That surgery could complicate the Bills' plan to move on as Taylor's contract calls for a guaranteed $30.75 million if he cannot pass a physical by the start of the new league year. This saga should dominate the Rotoworld headlines in the early part of 2017.
In a stunning development, LeSean McCoy says the Bills lacked discipline under Rex:
McCoy said Friday that some players had issues being on time and knowing their assignments on the field while playing for Ryan. Players faced fines for being late to meetings, but McCoy suggested that measure was ineffective, given players' salaries.
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18377401/buffalo-bills-players-say-discipline-was-issue-former-coach-rex-ryan
McCoy said Friday that some players had issues being on time and knowing their assignments on the field while playing for Ryan. Players faced fines for being late to meetings, but McCoy suggested that measure was ineffective, given players' salaries.
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18377401/buffalo-bills-players-say-discipline-was-issue-former-coach-rex-ryan
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http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/0ap3000000767158/Jets-recover-own-kickoff-in-Bills-end-zone-for-touchdown
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/0ap3000000767158/Jets-recover-own-kickoff-in-Bills-end-zone-for-touchdown
It's worth remembering that Rex also presided over the cheesy guy-hiding-in-endzone kickoff trick runback in 2014 (http://www.sbnation.com/2014/10/26/7073925/jets-kick-return-fail-percy-harvin-hiding-end-zone) and, of course, the Butt Fumble. I'm sure there are other candidates, but I can't think of three worse plays in the AFC in recent history.
edit: sorry, meant to specify AFC East
edit: sorry, meant to specify AFC East
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I didn't exactly attend a football powerhouse in high school but they made clear to me day one that a kickoff is a live ball. Jesus.
This play might really end up causing my children (6&4) a lifetime of pain. For some reason, they were really into watching this game with me and the Jets pasting the Bills had them pretty fired up, but then my antics from when the ball hit the field *whispers* that's a live ball...*slightly louder* he doesn't know ... *really loud* I've never seen this! Then, this is where I ruined them, "Daddy's been watching football for a long time and I've never seen that before" and we cheered and they started screaming that they loved the Jets, "WE LOVE THE JETS, WE LOVE THE JETS", and that's when what l had done hit me. It was like Bruce Willis realizing he was dead. Later my wife told me "you're really good at brainwashing, huh?"
It happened in a 1984 game when Phil McConkey of the Giants recovered the ball in the end zone for a TD
Sounds like AJ Jones let it bounce thinking it would go out of the end zone and McConkey recovered it.
https://books.google.com/books?id=bP-ICgAAQBAJ&pg=PA25&lpg=PA25&dq=Phil+McConkey+end+zone+recovery&source=bl&ots=uY7LN6GkOz&sig=Te61-i5u4rR6SuIPbrt7qMl2cr4&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjJ14DsgKPRAhWB4yYKHV2SATMQ6AEIGjAA#v=onepage&q=Phil McConkey end zone recovery&f=false
By the rules explained there, it's essentially an onside kick recovered in the end zone.
Classic Bills and residue of Sexy Rexy's undisciplined approach.
I'm just sad that the Jets and their mutant fans got to enjoy it and that we were deprived of seeing Ryan's stunned face after it happened.
I'm just sad that the Jets and their mutant fans got to enjoy it and that we were deprived of seeing Ryan's stunned face after it happened.
I still contend it happened in SB 49 after Amendola's 4th quarter TD and the refs missed it.
Edit - Nevermind, that was clearly out of bounds.
Okay, like the Bills, I may be having a brain-freeze of my own. In the Bills' case, the Bills kicking team never actually possessed the ball (they didn't even touch it). They simply let it bounce into the end zone. So why were the Jets allowed the touchdown?
Conversely, in the Wilson example cited in the rules guide, my question is: given what the rules say, why didn't Wilson allow the ball to bounce into the end zone and only then jump on it for a touchdown? So many times, when the receiving team lets the balls bounce, I see the kicking team try actively to bat the ball away from the end zone so as to hand the receiving team awful field position. If you're the kicking team, why bat the ball away from the end zone - why not let it enter the end zone and the jump on it for a touchdown?
Forgive the tortured logic of my post. But the examples given in the guide confuse rather than enlighten me.
Edit: Fix incompetent use of quotes. And brain farts.
Aren't you confusing punts and kickoffs? The ball is live after 10 yards on a kickoff as far as I know.
I think what you're getting confused is that you can only advance the ball on a recovered kickoff if the other team has touched it. You can always recover as long as it has gone 10 yards. The Jets were allowed the TD because they recovered in the end zone.
As far as batting the ball out of the end zone, maybe you're confusing punt plays with kickoffs.
As per the above, ball is live but can't be advanced - but it didn't need to be, since it was recovered in the end zone. The quote above in bold says "Because the recovery is in the end zone, the Giants are awarded the touchdown." Same applies to the Jets yesterday, right?
EDIT - or as MMS said, but faster and in a clearer fashion
EDIT - or as MMS said, but faster and in a clearer fashion
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Here is the full transcript
http://buffalonews.com/2017/01/02/said-transcript-bills-gm-doug-whaleys-season-ending-press-conference/
Its a tire fire of epic proportions
Read the whole thing... I think the thread needs a title change
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Here is the full transcript
http://buffalonews.com/2017/01/02/said-transcript-bills-gm-doug-whaleys-season-ending-press-conference/
Its a tire fire of epic proportions
Read the whole thing... I think the thread needs a title change
Thanks for posting that. So, there is no way I'd want McD or Patricia to go to work in that situation---it seems clear the GM is somewhat out of the loop and ownership is way too involved. Good luck, whoever lands there...
Well, it's a little odd that the GM had no foreknowledge of and no input into the decision to fire Rex and therefore no ability to discuss it at all even though he is the "singular voice" of the organization, and it's a little odd that he says Ryan picked Lynn to be interim Head Coach, and he sort of says that this next coaching hire is his and then later admits that it's the owners' choice. He really comes across as more of a middle-man who is trying to act as if he actually has the authority his title implies and is as a result fumbling for answers while facing a pretty irritable pool of reporters.