In my lifetime said:Either there are moves coming to clear salary or they will blow by the tax number assuming
Ramirez ~17
Sandoval ~18
Lester ~22
Miller ~9
Cespedes - it would seem would be out the door, saving 9.
That would put them a little over (~5 M over) and still short a #2 starter, who we would assume is obtained via trade (+15M????). And other needs requiring smaller financial commitments - back up catcher (+2M). Are the RS really going to go to a 210M payroll?
I find it hard to believe that Miller is heading to the RS, it just seems that the cost seems high for a team with other potential closers.
If the hip surgery was successful (haven't heard anything about the recovery, though the acquisitions of Butler and Ike Davis suggest Beane might not be optimistic), maybe. He could definitely handle LF in Fenway. But his 2014 second half was Craig-level scary; .878 OPS with 21 HRs before the break, .584 with 4 HRs after (and that includes most of July, before the bottom really fell out).MakMan44 said:Brandon Moss might be available. The hip injury is worrisome and his defense isn't great but if you can get him at the right price, I think he can be the LHH this board has been searching for. Obviously depends on what lies in his medical records, but as with Latos, I'm willing to trust the FO if they think it's worth exploring.
Hanley, Sandoval, Lester? Red Sox apparently trying to regain financial inflexibility they shed by trading A-Gon, Crawford, Beckett to LA.
Not really. It completely discounts fairly obvious trades they could make this year and the very low payroll projections from 2016 to 2020. I see no correlation to that situation.nattysez said:LA Times writer:
https://twitter.com/BillShaikin/status/536748671346278400
It's a fair point.
https://twitter.com/BillShaikin/status/536748671346278400nattysez said:
Cots is your friend.bosox1025 said:At the moment how many big $$ commitments do they have beyond 2015? Just because you sign a few big ticket free agents doesn't mean you're all of a sudden financially hamstrung -- the kids will even it out.
67WasBest said:Not really. It completely discounts fairly obvious trades they could make this year and the very low payroll projections from 2016 to 2020. I see no correlation to that situation.
All of whom make less than 20 million per.Darnell's Son said:
With the possibility of Koji and Miller at the back end of the pen.mBiferi said:RF-Mookie
2B-Pedroia
DH-Ortiz
LF-Hanley
3B-Sandoval
1B-Napoli
SS-Xander
CF-Castillo
C- Vazquez
Damn... get Iwakuma and Lester and damn...
Right now it's two, if Hanley and Sandoval are indeed on their way to Boston.Luis Taint said:Realistically, how many players are we going to be trading or releasing, including minor leaguers? By my count we have at least 5-7 players who need to be moved.
Luis Taint said:WMB, Craig, Victorino, Cespedes and Cecchini are probably going to be traded, I'd imagine.
67WasBest said:Right now it's two, if Hanley and Sandoval are indeed on their way to Boston.
Luis Taint said:WMB, Craig, Victorino, Cespedes and Cecchini are probably going to be traded, I'd imagine.
That may well be in time, but first he's going to have to show he can hit in ML, and Victorino is going to have to be dealt somewhere. Starting in 2016, I suspect Bradley will have a role on this team.Luis Taint said:Bradley May hit for shit, but I'd much rather him out there, than Craig or the corpse of Victorino.
Rasputin said:
I don't really see any reason to trade all of them, particularly Craig, Cecchini, and Victorino. You'd be selling low on Craig, Cecchini can be sent to AAA easily, and we're going to need an OFer that can back up center and right.
This happening will make me sad, regardless of whether it's the right move or not.Harry Hooper said:
Agree on Victorino. Nava is likely getting shipped out.
Luis Taint said:Bradley May hit for shit, but I'd much rather him out there, than Craig or the corpse of Victorino.
Cespedes,+ 2 A plus prospects, might get you a significant return.CGSO said:Interested to see what Cespedes could get in a trade. I'd be happy with a quality #2 starter for him. Cespedes is obviously the odd man out if Pablo is indeed signed.
As equally bizarre a report as the other today. I mean, WTF!!!!!E5 Yaz said:
Jake Wesley MLB @mlb_nl_al · 17m
17 minutes ago
Literally asked hundreds of times on Jon Lester with Sox. It's less likely now that he signs. Look for trade of Xander, etc. for starter
67WasBest said:As equally bizarre a report as the other today. I mean, WTF!!!!!
E5 Yaz said:
Jake Wesley MLB @mlb_nl_al · 17m
17 minutes ago
Literally asked hundreds of times on Jon Lester with Sox. It's less likely now that he signs. Look for trade of Xander, etc. for starter
CaskNFappin said:This kid got some inside info mojo on clients of a particular agency. Now he's reaching.
Luis Taint said:WMB, Craig, Victorino, Cespedes and Cecchini are probably going to be traded, I'd imagine.
No way you get Zimmerman for Buchholz and the rotting corpse of an overpaid Allen Craig, let's be real - they turned down the Cubs and will be asking for a LOT. Webster has barely any trade value and Cecchini + filler is no where near enough to get Tyson Ross. Not every team wants to give us their valuable pitchers for AAAA players and garbage.67WasBest said:I've believed since July the FO was going to eliminate as many risks as possible as they assemble the 2014 squad, while at the same time retaining all young talent not rendered excess. I've also been advocating the acquisition of cost effective pitchers on short term deals. Now that the investment in the lineup has been taken to the level it has, the pitchers have to provide some of the salary relief required in 2015 and the future. Here's a nice way to assemble the squad from today's rumors:
- Napoli for Iwakuma fits for both sides
- Cespedes and a prospect for Samardzija helps the offense starved A's
- Cecchini, Webster and a flier for Ross. Webster is ready to start and doing so in Petco will be great for his confidence, Cecchini would likely start in talent starved SD and his line drive stroke will fit perfect with the game they play in those NL West parks.
- Buchholz and Craig for Zimmerman - granted this is a stretch, but Buchholz does give them an experienced arm with an extra year of control which will make their other choices easier to manage. Craig gives them depth.in the OF and 1B
- Sign Miller because he fills the most glaring hole in the pen and mitigates many risks
- Sign LHC ($2), or just use in-house options until Swihart is ready
nattysez said:LA Times writer:
https://twitter.com/BillShaikin/status/536748671346278400
It's a fair point.
nattysez said:LA Times writer:
https://twitter.com/BillShaikin/status/536748671346278400
It's a fair point.