The Nation's Tears: Pink Stripes

Ed Hillel

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Kornheiser and Wilbon just addressed accusations of ASU stealing signs by laughing it off and saying that teams who don't change signs deserve to have them stolen anyway, and that it was part of the game.

I just thought that was interesting.
 
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But then again Kornheiser and Wilbon have never really been apart of the ESPN media sphere. I read in James Miller's oral history of ESPN that one of the reasons PTI has been so successful is because the show is filmed in DC, away from the Death Star.
 
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Ed Hillel said:
Kornheiser and Wilbon just addressed accusations of ASU stealing signs by laughing it off and saying that teams who don't change signs deserve to have them stolen anyway, and that it was part of the game.

I just thought that was interesting.
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It's all fun and games until the Pats do it. #ESPNGoldenRule
 
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Heard on EEI that the Pats are 4 point favorites in Denver? Didn't really know they do lines this early, but as of right now, that's what they were saying.
 
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Heard on EEI that the Pats are 4 point favorites in Denver? Didn't really know they do lines this early, but as of right now, that's what they were saying.
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Seems like they aren't quite buying into the "Peyton is BACK!  The Broncos are AWESOME!" idea.
 
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Well, the Pats Power Rating is 110.  Denver is 105.  I'll have issues with the Pats being favored by 4 when home field is worth 3.  I could see an opening line of Pats -2.5 or something like that, though.  -4 seems like a lot after seeing Denver dismantle Green Bay.
 
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CaptainLaddie said:
Well, the Pats Power Rating is 110.  Denver is 105.  I'll have issues with the Pats being favored by 4 when home field is worth 3.  I could see an opening line of Pats -2.5 or something like that, though.  -4 seems like a lot after seeing Denver dismantle Green Bay.
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Vegas isn't stupid. Denver is doing it with duct tape and glue. The Patriots are a well oiled machine. The are dying to get people to wager on the Broncos.
 
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johnmd20 said:
 
Vegas isn't stupid. Denver is doing it with duct tape and glue. The Patriots are a well oiled machine. The are dying to get people to wager on the Broncos.
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Maybe so.  But Denver, at home, on Sunday night seems like a recipe for classic Peyton.  It could very well be -4 for the reasons you stated.
 
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Vegas isn't stupid. Denver is doing it with duct tape and glue. The Patriots are a well oiled machine. The are dying to get people to wager on the Broncos.
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Or is it Vegas is not stupid and will take advantage of hordes over-betting the Patriots? There has been some evidence of that this season. Lines fall once sharps weigh in.
 
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CaptainLaddie said:
Maybe so.  But Denver, at home, on Sunday night seems like a recipe for classic Peyton.  It could very well be -4 for the reasons you stated.
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I'll gladly take this game being at night, especially since it's at the end of November.
 
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Sally Jenkins with another terrific read on Brady & the "price" NFL is paying:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/redskins/deflategate-got-tom-brady-mad-and-the-rest-of-the-nfl-is-paying-the-price/2015/11/06/0a903f82-84a1-11e5-9afb-0c971f713d0c_story.html?tid=pm_pop_b
This is the real outcome of DeflateGate: A guy who had nothing left to gain now has everything to prove. “They did us a favor,” says New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft.

It has become clear what Brady’s greatest asset is, and it’s not that precision-tuned throwing arm, or the photographic memory that allows him to recall opponents’ tendencies from a decade ago. It’s the ability to maintain a controlled burn without imploding in the face of any charge. “I’ve always tried to work mentally to overcome whatever obstacles I’ve had to face,” Brady says blandly.
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Delicious.
 
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Didn't know where to put this, but was amused that ESPN ranks the Colts and Ravens as the Number 3 and 4 overall "ultimate franchises"...Patriots are #7.
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Double counting cost probably really hurt the Pats. This is another stupid metric created by ESPN.


Affordability (11.3%): Price of tickets, parking and concessions 



Coaching (3.2%): Strength of on-field leadership


Fan relations (25%): Courtesy by players, coaches and front office toward fans, plus how well a team uses technology to reach fans

Ownership (13.1%): Honesty; loyalty to core players and the local community

Players (14.6%): Effort on the field, likability off it

Stadium experience (9.8%): Quality of arena; fan-friendliness of environment; frequency of game-day promotions

Title track (4.6%): Championships won or expected within the lifetime of current fans

Bang for the buck (18.3%): Wins in the past two years per fan dollar, adjusted for league schedules
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I like how they compare ticket prices across the entire country, and assume flat purchasing power for the whole US.
 
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It's kind of a suspect list when Memphis Grizzlies is your No 2. overall.

I don't follow the NBA and I know they have improved somewhat, but yeah...
 
nattysez

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God, I love BB. Anyone want to predict how big a fine he's going to get hit with for this?


 
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God, I love BB. Anyone want to predict how big a fine he's going to get hit with for this?


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Many of us do. And even though cultural critics like John Oliver call the league out for this bullshit (on one of his recent episodes he pointed out that the armed forces actually pay the teams for appearances and ceremonies) you know how this will be spun. Belichick will be portrayed as an unpatriotic, Patriot, asshole.
 
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Many of us do. And even though cultural critics like John Oliver call the league out for this bullshit (on one of his recent episodes he pointed out that the armed forces actually pay the teams for appearances and ceremonies) you know how this will be spun. Belichick will be portrayed as an unpatriotic, Patriot, asshole.
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I think the news cycle about "paid patriotism" that you referenced, as well as BB's history with Navy, may preclude him being pilloried by anyone with a brain. We'll see.
 
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Ray Ratto is great. Really smart, irreverent, rarely compliments anybody.

If this is so, he is now my favorite coach, and to honor him I will never ask to speak to him.

LOL at that one.
 
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It'd be fun to see Brady try and identify them all. I remember doing this exercise awhile back and was surprised at quite a few of the names, particularly the older ones. Dedric Ward, Tom Ashworth, etc.
 
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I'd love to see a play near the end zone where Brady throws a pass and it gets batted back to him and he runs into the EZ. That would count as a TD pass to himself, no?
 
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I love that Vrabel is an answer in the first column. That makes him top 15 or so
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Few things jump out from the list:

  • Vrabel had more TD's than Shane Vereen
  • Tim Wright has 2 more TD's than Amendola
  • Hooman only caught 1 TD
  • Dan Graham has more than Edelman.
 
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