The Nation's Tears: Pink Stripes

steveluck7

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soxhop411 said:
they are looking for 5 million? this is a scam, and that person that donated $1500 most likely used  a stolen credit card
and they can't do math
Their goal is $5 million yet they're asking "5 million Patriots skeptics to give $2 each"
 

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steveluck7 said:
and they can't do math
Their goal is $5 million yet they're asking "5 million Patriots skeptics to give $2 each"
 
Nope, they can do the math. They are hoping the idiots that donate can't.
 

DJnVa

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I signed the petition but I can't find a link to the actual petition to see it...
 

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djbayko said:
Highly doubtful. It's not breaking any laws, and it's existence is hardly a PR concern for Gofundme.

Edit: Whoa, $5mill? Yeah, I guess there's a valid concern about where the money is going.
 
ISIS?  Al Qaeda?  Can't be ruled out that they are targeting the most foolish and vulnerable of us to fund their evil activities....
 

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I was going to "contact us" them telling them how pathetic they are and that they should volunteer at a soup kitchen at Big Brother/Big Sister if they want to do something that matters with their time, but I don't want those creeps to have my email.
 

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dbn said:
I was going to "contact us" them telling them how pathetic they are and that they should volunteer at a soup kitchen at Big Brother/Big Sister if they want to do something that matters with their time, but I don't want those creeps to have my email.
It wouldn't matter. This guy is the very definition of a crazy fanatic. His identity is directly tied to the success of his beloved Colts, and he's convinced that his team would have a few more rings if the Patriots weren't a bunch of cheaters.

Football in Indiana. He's doing God's work.
 

nighthob

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I'm actually sort of pissed that I didn't think of this, I could have gotten rich exploiting Colts and Jets fans.
 

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nighthob said:
I'm actually sort of pissed that I didn't think of this, I could have gotten rich exploiting Colts and Jets fans.
 
Hmmm...
 
If everyone on SoSH sends me $100, I'll point the Hubble Space Telescope at the Jets practice facility - completely on the down-low - and throw all of the Patriots' thetans into a volcano. 
 

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If the $5m that is donated fails to achieve its goal of putting an official* asterisk next to any and every Patriots' accomplishment, do people get their money back?
 

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Sean Leahy ‏@leahysean  6m6 minutes ago
Robert Kraft on field: 'There's nothing more satisfying than saddling the Indianapolis Colts with a loss'
 

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@DanWetzel: Since halftime of AFC Title Game, with NFL watching PSI levels, Tom Brady stats: 67.4 completion percentage, 2,859 yards, 26 TDs, 3 picks

Don't poke the pats.
 

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soxhop411 said:
@DanWetzel: Since halftime of AFC Title Game, with NFL watching PSI levels, Tom Brady stats: 67.4 completion percentage, 2,859 yards, 26 TDs, 3 picks

Don't poke the pats.
 
this just needs to be a rolling counter on tombradysincedeflategate.com.
 

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JimBoSox9 said:
 
this just needs to be a rolling counter on tombradysincedeflategate.com.
Does that site exist? (I'm on Mobile) if not we should create it.
 

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Since the balls are being handled better by the refs. Luck has been even worse than normal. Maybe Luck was the one that needed deflated balls. /hot take
 

jsinger121

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Want to know how much of a dynasty this organization has been in the last 20 years since the 1996-97 season. They are only second team in modern league history (Dallas from 1965-85) (Super Bowl era) to go through a 20 year stretch (I know this season is not done yet but they are 7-0) and only have 1 losing season. 5-11 in 2000. Other season was 8-8 but still was not considered a losing season. Factor in 7 Super Bowl berths, 4 Super Bowl Titles and 14 Division Titles.  Unprecedented run of success.
 
The Bears are the only thing that comes close from 1930-50 with 1 losing season in the pre super bowl era.
 

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jsinger121 said:
Want to know how much of a dynasty this organization has been in the last 20 years since the 1996-97 season. They are only second team in modern league history (Dallas from 1965-85) (Super Bowl era) to go through a 20 year stretch (I know this season is not done yet but they are 7-0) and only have 1 losing season. 5-11 in 2000. Other season was 8-8 but still was not considered a losing season. Factor in 7 Super Bowl berths, 4 Super Bowl Titles and 14 Division Titles.  Unprecedented run of success.
 
The Bears are the only thing that comes close from 1930-50 with 1 losing season in the pre super bowl era.
 
The 49ers had an 18 year run winning 10+ games in every season except one and that was the strike shortened 1982. I don't really think the Patriots success is that much more substantial than the 49ers at this point (although maybe more impressive given era comparisons, salary cap, free agency etc). 
 
What is crazy is that the Patriots aren't done.  If Brady plays a few more seasons at a high level and then they figure out a way to manage a transition to at least a decent QB, this streak could easily grow to 25-30 years of dominance.
 

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Morgan's Magic Snowplow said:
 
The 49ers had an 18 year run winning 10+ games in every season except one and that was the strike shortened 1982. I don't really think the Patriots success is that much more substantial than the 49ers at this point (although maybe more impressive given era comparisons, salary cap, free agency etc). 
 
What is crazy is that the Patriots aren't done.  If Brady plays a few more seasons at a high level and then they figure out a way to manage a transition to at least a decent QB, this streak could easily grow to 25-30 years of dominance.
 
I'd say its much more impressive with the roster turnover every year with free agency and the salary cap.
 

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weeba said:
This is my favorite stat of the day
 
Since 2002, at home the Pats are 71-0 when winning at halftime.  Easy, right?
Since 2002, at home the Pats are 14-12 when losing at halftime.
 
 
Unfortunately, that doesn't include playoffs.
 
:rex:
 

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12 home losses is pretty incredible unto itself. Add in playoffs and that goes up to 15 I think (Ravens x2, Jets). Probably forgetting one though.
Nope, this is remarkably right. We are so fucking lucky to root for this team. For fun, and because I need some time to kill before 8PM, I've decided to add in the halftime lead (trailing) record, game by game to add to over Pro Football Reference stat weeba gave. Because it's a Blade specific stat, this (obviously) won't include road games. 
 
Before that though, I do want to note though, that weeba's numbers don't include Thursday's win, since the week isn't complete yet, so they're really 72-0 when up at the half in Gillette. Remarkably, and thus far unstated, they're only 6-4 or .600 when tied at the half at home since 2002, tied with the Jaguars and Falcons for 7th by overall win percentage in such a scenario.
 
2002: N/A, did not make playoffs
2003: W vs. TEN (up 14-7 at half), W vs. IND (up 15-0) at half
2004: W vs. IND (up 6-3 at half)
2005: W vs. JAX (up 7-3 at half)
2006: W vs. NYJ (up 17-10 at half)
2007: W vs. JAX (tied 14-14 at half, god that game was awesome as it was nerve racking in person), W vs. SD (up 14-9 at half)
2008: N/A, did not make playoffs
2009: L vs. BAL (down 24-7 at half)
2010: L vs. NYJ (down 14-3 at half)
2011: W vs. DEN (up 35-7 at half), W vs. BAL (up 13-10 at half)
2012: W vs. HOU (up 17-13 at half), L vs. BAL (up 13-7 at half)
2013: W vs. IND (up 21-12 at half)
2014: W vs. BAL (down 21-14 at half), W vs. IND (up 17-7 at half)
 
By postseason games alone since 2002:
 
11-1 when leading at half
1-2 when trailing at half
1-0 when tied at half
13-3 in overall home playoff games
 
By overall games since 2002, including postseason:
 
82-1 when leading at half
15-14 when trailing at half
7-4 when tied at half
104-19 overall
 

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OK, here's my stat for Brady.  I took the point spreads from the football reference boxscores.  Over the course of his career Brady has gone into 52 games as the underdog and 
four games where the spread was even.  The Patriots are 31-21 in the games that they are underdogs and 4-0 in the four pick 'em games for 35-21 overall.  That's not against the spread...they have an actual .625 winning percentage when they are not favored.  
 
Against the spread they are 40-16.
 
They have won 17 of those games by 15 points or more.  So historically, even when Brady and the Patriots aren't favored they have been more likely to blow out the other team by more than two scores than they are to lose the game (Edit: actually should read "than they are to lose against the spread" as t4w points out below).
 
Last year, for example, they blew out @BUF, DEN, @IND despite being underdogs, blew out CIN in a pick'em game, and beat SEA in another even game.  They lost the game and the spread against GB.  Looking back it's amazing that they were underdogs in all those games, isn't it?
 

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More fuel to the fire that looking at all team average win percentages based on point spreads to estimate the Pats record or odds of victory in a game undersells the Patriots actual odds. So if the Pats are two point dogs their actual odds of victory are like 60+% instead of 40%. I'd bet that if they're 7 point favorites their odds of victory aren't 85% (or whatever that would imply for the typical team) but 95%.

Basically, any analysis you see of how likely the Patriots are to win a game or go undefeated is likely overly conservative.
 

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snowmanny said:
OK, here's my stat for Brady.  I took the point spreads from the football reference boxscores.  Over the course of his career Brady has gone into 52 games as the underdog and 
four games where the spread was even.  The Patriots are 31-21 in the games that they are underdogs and 4-0 in the four pick 'em games for 35-21 overall.  That's not against the spread...they have an actual .625 winning percentage when they are not favored.  
 
Against the spread they are 40-16.
 
They have won 17 of those games by 15 points or more.  So historically, even when Brady and the Patriots aren't favored they have been more likely to blow out the other team by more than two scores than they are to lose the game.
 
Last year, for example, they blew out @BUF, DEN, @IND despite being underdogs, blew out CIN in a pick'em game, and beat SEA in another even game.  They lost the game and the spread against GB.  Looking back it's amazing that they were underdogs in all those games, isn't it?
Great stuff but not more likely to blow out than to lose unless you just mean against the spread. 17 blowout wins vs the 21 losses you cited
 

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tims4wins said:
Great stuff but not more likely to blow out than to lose unless you just mean against the spread. 17 blowout wins vs the 21 losses you cited
Right. Thank you for the correction.
 

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JohnnyK said:
E:60 with Jules
 
Some nice stuff in there. Edelman mostly playful, serious when talking about his Dad's influence, but around 26:00 (right after blowing off a deflategate reference with "We got most of our points with good balls in that game") he gets a steely look in his eye and half shakes his head while answering: "How would you describe the culture on the Patriots when it comes to playing by the rules?"
 
"We play by the rules...just like everyone else. Coach is always a stickler about everything. It's just we're always winning and people try to bring something up."
 
You could see it in his eyes. DFG is personal. Fuck the league and it's faux integrity. This team is full of guys with real integrity and they are pissed off.
 
Oh no, this team isn't on a mission in 2015.....
 

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Not gonna lie, when I first saw the title I assumed it was real. I mean, they do have a pre-loss complaint form.
 

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Jed Zeppelin said:
Not gonna lie, when I first saw the title I assumed it was real. I mean, they do have a pre-loss complaint form.
 
Well, there's as much evidence it is real as there is that Tom Brady participated in a scheme to deflate footballs, so.....
 

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PedroKsBambino said:
 
Well, there's as much evidence it is real as there is that Tom Brady participated in a scheme to deflate footballs, so.....
 
So draft picks all 'round!