The Nation's Tears: Pink Stripes
- Thread starter Kenny F'ing Powers
- Start date
Not really. No doubt the building plays a role, but I've been to both Qwest and Gilette and the difference is palpable. The only thing I've experienced that comes close to the madness at Qwest was at a 2003 Sox-Wanks playoff game at Fenway (the best live sports experience of my life). It's certainly not that Seattle has better fans, it's that they have the pent-up passion of a fanbase that's been starved and abused for years. When the Hawks are on D and it's third and long, those people stand up and shriek. It's ear-splitting and awesome and unnerving and annoying. It can totally affect the O.
Gilette fans have had years of success to enjoy. They're loyal and passionate and knowledgeable, but by and large they don't have the raw edge of Seahawks fans. How could they? You can't sustain that kind of raw madness for 15 years. In 2030 Seattle won't have it either.
I think the 12s could arguably make some claim to affecting the Super Bowl against Denver. There's no way to know for sure, but the Broncos seemed flustered from the start and things quickly got away from them.
But the 12s were way wrong to think that shit was going to work against the Patriots. For one thing, you know BB would have had the Pats ready for whatever noise the fans would generate, and for another Brady and team were an extremely poised and professional outfit. Crowd noise is no big deal to them.
The Hawk fans any SoSHers met at a Super Bowl were most likely among the most extreme subset of the 12s. They were somewhat delusional and had an exaggerated sense of self-importance, but they do not represent every Hawk fan. I lived in Seattle for 24 years. Most of the football fans I know are reasonable and fine. After years of failure they're enjoying the hell out of these great Hawk teams. It's hard to begrudge them that.
Pandemonium67 said:
I'd argue that the biggest problem at Gilette is that security really doesn't allow for a loud football atmosphere. If anybody stands up they're immediately yelled at to sit down because someone's kid can't see or their mom doesn't want to stand up because she can't see. They're so quick to pull people's season tickets in there that the fans that actually want to stand up and make noise can't.
Pandemonium67 said:
Whether you like the wave or hate it, there's no doubt the fans up in the Pacific Northwest have been doing a rapid, surging wave through the stands like nowhere else. I recall it being discussed on MNF back when OJ was doing the games.
Speaking of which, did they straighten out their deal with Texas A&M?wibi said:
There were rumblings that they weren't going to allow Seahawks to continue to use it after the previous contract expired. Did Texas A&M get more money? Still undecided?
Buying into the fun doesn't mean you actually believe it.
I thought that's why they were stressing "12s" rather than "12th man"
edmunddantes said:
I thought that's why they were stressing "12s" rather than "12th man"
edmunddantes said:
I thought the transition from calling fans the "12th man" to calling them simply "twelves" was to get out from under A&M's thumb. The phrase "12th man" is what is trademarked, after all.
That clears it up. Haven't listened to many Seahawks games. Didn't realized they had switched.Red(s)HawksFan said:
It would make sense.
Dexter Manley with salty, salty tears. Although in no way do I think he believes what he's saying. He's just trying to get attention, right?
http://www.csnne.com/new-england-patriots/ex-redskins-de-dexter-manley-tom-brady-garbage?p=ya5nbcs&ocid=yahoo
http://www.csnne.com/new-england-patriots/ex-redskins-de-dexter-manley-tom-brady-garbage?p=ya5nbcs&ocid=yahoo
This is a pretty entertaining read from Katie Baker at Grantland. She does a great job complimenting the Patriots and calling other fans on their bullshit in a very subtle way without making it seem like that's what she's doing. It's written more for the non-Pats fans, I think, but the absurdity of the situation and the game turned it into Pats porn. Here are some of the better excerpts -- it's not long if you want to click on the whole thing.
We Went There: The Pats/Bills Hatefest
We Went There: The Pats/Bills Hatefest
I woke up this morning, got out of bed, made some coffee, and sat at my kitchen table wondering to myself what Dexter Manley thought about Tom Brady. Thank God he was able to get on the radio to give that hot take so now I can go back to worrying about the European migration crisis and climate change.
joe dokes said:
He apparently did learn to read at some point. And I'm guessing he was on the radio because he's featured on "A Football Life" premiering Friday.
CantKeepmedown said:
Wait, picking those 3 guys as the answer to any question about QBing may be the weirdest thing I've ever heard.
Tom Brady can't pick up first downs? Does he mean only running? Matt Ryan doesn't run for first downs. WTF is he talking about?
lars10 said:
Pretty sure Brady was in junior high and Ryan barely out of kindergarten the last time Manley suited up in the NFL.
GeorgeCostanza said:
LOL @ NFLN for perfectly timing "A Football Life" episode on Manley. I think Dexter may be shrewder than we think -- click bait!
http://www.nfl.com/videos/a-football-life/0ap3000000533389/A-Football-Life-Dexter-Manley
No idea where else to put this but here is a compilation of every Brady Super Bowl play.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=5&v=QvFEW4gKmcE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=5&v=QvFEW4gKmcE
tims4wins said:
That's fascinating and a certain wormhole at some point for me today. Didn't Summerall call the Rams game? I heard Stockton.
tims4wins said:
I just spent an hour out my my morning watching that, and have no regrets.
My favorite part was watching Troy Brown - 8th round pick, 15 year career all with NE - again. One of my (and, I think, many of our) favorite Patriots of all time. Never the superstar, always the very, very important contributor. Love that guy. Also, Kevin Faulk - 13 year career, all with NE.
Brown is definitely one my fav all time pats. Would have driven the team bus if they needed him to.dbn said:
It's interesting to consider that over the last 20+ years, going all the way back to the beginning of Kraft/Parcells/Bledsoe, the Pats have had a run of high-end slot guys -- Brown, Welker, Edelman.
Troy Brown is a hero, no doubt. I was at the stadium when he ran a kickoff (or was it a punt?) back for a touchdown. It was years before he started to play defensive back. If Brock Holt were to have a 13 year career with the Red Sox, play 120 games a year and have an OPS of .850, he'd be Troy Brown.
I watched this last week. One thing that stood out to me was just how badly the O line was abused in 2007. I remember it being bad, obviously, but with a little more clarity it's way worse than I remembered. I think Brady did about as well as he could have given the circumstances.tims4wins said:
On the topic of Troy Brown, it brings me back to one of my favorite memories at a Patriots game as a kid (and for those who were at the game will surely remember this). It was in 2003, and the Patriots were playing the Titans in what was your typical out of division, early in the season matchup. The buzz around Gillette that day was that the Red Sox were playing the A's in what was the pivotal Game 4 ALDS matchup with the A's up 2-1. In the stands, I think about every other person was holding one of those cheap, 4x4 inch portable television screens or listening to it on the radio. I remember holding one of the televisions with about 30 people behind me trying to get a glimpse of the sox game.
Anyways, Troy Brown returns a punt for a touchdown, but there was a flag on the play- holding on the return team, so the Pats get the ball back around the 20 or whatever it was. As soon as the ref announces this, the crowd went absolutely wild. David Ortiz had just hit a 2-run double off old friend Keith Foulke to give the Red Sox the lead 5-4. You could see the Patriots and Titans players on the field, looking around at the crowd and at each other, as if to say "Do they know the TD got called back?" It was a pretty surreal moment for sure.
Anyways, Troy Brown returns a punt for a touchdown, but there was a flag on the play- holding on the return team, so the Pats get the ball back around the 20 or whatever it was. As soon as the ref announces this, the crowd went absolutely wild. David Ortiz had just hit a 2-run double off old friend Keith Foulke to give the Red Sox the lead 5-4. You could see the Patriots and Titans players on the field, looking around at the crowd and at each other, as if to say "Do they know the TD got called back?" It was a pretty surreal moment for sure.
Ed Hillel said:
I have long maintained that Brady played very well in that game. Just about any other QB chucks up multiple INTs under that onslaught.
It was pretty similar to the first quarter pick against Seattle this year. Both bad throws. I was at that Carolina and goddamn was I stunned
So I am at a tight game in Baltimore, but see the score in Foxboro. People around me are amazed and laughing.
Yeah. We are out to kill the League. Some pussy will write a column soon decrying that. Deal with it. You fueled it.
Yeah. We are out to kill the League. Some pussy will write a column soon decrying that. Deal with it. You fueled it.
Why are they laughing? Shouldn't it be moredcmissle said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCfWHqrYUqo
How'd that outcome play out in the stands? 0-3 and heading to Pittsburgh in 4 days. Love it.dcmissle said:
General recognition that the season could be over in 4 days if it isn't already. How bad is Ben's knee injury? Everyone blaming the defense, and properly so.RedOctober3829 said:
If Harbaugh spent more energy coaching, and a little less whining .... In any case, he is politically deft, and I won't be surprised if somebody gets fired in the next week. Not him, of course.
Edit. Bengals continue to play beneath talent level, and Ginger is good enough to lose playoff games. Not very impressed.
At Gillette today and saw a dude wearing a tee-shirt that had the picture of BB and Ernie Adams that was used in the Do Your Job special.
Caption of the tee-shirt: Bill Belichick and Ernie Adams: Pink Stripes since 1978 (I may have the year wrong on that, guy walked by me too fast, but it was glorious and I need one).
Caption of the tee-shirt: Bill Belichick and Ernie Adams: Pink Stripes since 1978 (I may have the year wrong on that, guy walked by me too fast, but it was glorious and I need one).
This one doest have the date.Ralphwiggum said:
http://store.barstoolsports.com/products/pinkstripes-black-tee