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DJnVa

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Mark Jones says buckets will come easier in the NBA than in France? More space doesn't mean easier buckets.
 

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I do wonder if teams use unconventional defenders on him. Who will be Wemby's Semi?
He's thin, and you can already see guys can get under him and push him back. He didn't like the contact on the one drive he missed.

So, I'd thnk teams will try to use a wider and smaller guy, ideally quick enough to beat him to spots, and hold the C/shot blocker back as weakside help.

But it's all experimentation for sure.
 

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Again I expect Marcus to absolutely try to stop him. You and @PedroKsBambino are on to the low center of gravity types giving him some discomfort. He will learn to ignore that at some point.
I agree, and he'll also get stronger. He's pretty agile, and so long, I would worry about my traditional 5 on him (though many 5s today are Horford-like anyway).

There's a lot of Ralph Sampson to his look and game, for those who go back that far...
 

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Wemby’s teammates seem to be layup-averse, but he’s made some sweet passes. His ability to fall on the floor has been Embiid-like so far, without the embellishment.
 

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I sometimes wonder if ESPN’s basketball presentation is put together just to annoy me. Not only do I have to sit through Mark Jones and Doris Burke, but the audio is cutting out every three seconds.
 

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I’m hoping Wemby is awesome, but he definitely needs to improve his conditioning
Really? His size may be deceiving - to me he looks effortless out there even with his flaws - and he is a 19 year old kid so he has a bunch. As Jones and Doris note, he's been talking big workouts too but that could be BS.
 

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No Doris, Wemby is not a "playmaker more than anything else".
Hmmmm just told someone at the poker table that the thing I like best about Wemby's game is that he's an unselfish playmaker similar to LeBron when he entered the league.
 

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The Champagnie is a little flat tonight.

Bouknight is garbage. Another garbage pick by MJ’s team
 

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Really? His size may be deceiving - to me he looks effortless out there even with his flaws - and he is a 19 year old kid so he has a bunch. As Jones and Doris note, he's been talking big workouts too but that could be BS.
oh It’s impressive and effortless at times, but other times he is just walking or not even contesting , getting in position etc. Spurs have been subbing him out pretty quickly too, so I think they know as well.

I mean, it’s Summer League and he is 18 or whatever. Just first observations. The movement, coordination and dexterity at his size is unlike anything I’ve ever seen.
 

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The Champagnie is a little flat tonight.

Bouknight is garbage. Another garbage pick by MJ’s team
Yeah he was pretty awful last year....really bad in that he was the same player he was as a rookie when he couldn't earn minutes on the Hornets.
 

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Wemby with his first "yeah that doesn't work in the NBA" moment there, thought he could show hard, then just throw up a long arm on the recovery, Kai Jones just jumped right over the top and dunked on his head
 

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My first thought watching him is how many paint-dwellers of his frame have been superstars in the NBA the past 30 seasons? Obviously he’s stretched very high, but his center of gravity against the bulky forwards and Centers is going to be seriously put to the test. He will obviously fill out some, but how much we shall see.

His early years could be a real struggle, though he might also be getting that Giannis treatment from the refs. The league desperately wants to crown this guy.
 

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oh It’s impressive and effortless at times, but other times he is just walking or not even contesting , getting in position etc. Spurs have been subbing him out pretty quickly too, so I think they know as well.

I mean, it’s Summer League and he is 18 or whatever. Just first observations. The movement, coordination and dexterity at his size is unlike anything I’ve ever seen.
Don't know if you are still watching but Jones just shared an anecdote from a "current NBA player" who spoke with him at the half and also noted conditioning. You may well be on to something.
 

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My first thought watching him is how many paint-dwellers of his frame have been superstars in the NBA the past 30 seasons? Obviously he’s stretched very high, but his center of gravity against the bulky forwards and Centers is going to be seriously put to the test. He will obviously fill out some, but how much we shall see.

His early years could be a real struggle, though he might also be getting that Giannis treatment from the refs. The league desperately wants to crown this guy.
We'll see how he bulks up, but he basically profiles as a rich man's Porzingis. KP has at least 25 pounds on him now, but gotta assume he'll make up at least some of that.

We'll get a real good look at what's supposed to be his worst case scenario, assuming good health.
 

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James Bouknight should keep his passport updated.

He continues to be unimpressive every time he steps on the floor.
 

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We'll see how he bulks up, but he basically profiles as a rich man's Porzingis. We'll get a real good look at what's supposed to be his worst case scenario, assuming good health.
I’d like to see more of his post game, because the handling we’ve seen tonight I mean I dunno. Small sample, nerves, etc, but at least tonight he looks very awkward putting the ball on the floor.
 

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I don't see how he is going to be a difference maker in the first couple years, happy to be proven wrong.

When things go well, they look super impressive. But more often than not, it's a discombobulated mess.

I'll take Kristaps over Wemby from 2023-2025
 

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I agree, and he'll also get stronger. He's pretty agile, and so long, I would worry about my traditional 5 on him (though many 5s today are Horford-like anyway).

There's a lot of Ralph Sampson to his look and game, for those who go back that far...
Ralph was skilled but Wemby takes it to a whole another level.

Howevet, Ralph was a lot thicker than Wemby IIRC.
I don't see how he is going to be a difference maker in the first couple years, happy to be proven wrong.

When things go well, they look super impressive. But more often than not, it's a discombobulated mess.

I'll take Kristaps over Wemby from 2023-2025
Wemby will be a difference maker on defense. Not sure 8f they've played against each other before but in the 1H, Miller wanted no part 8f Wemby 1 on 1.

Offense is a work in progress but he'll get several baskets a night (at least!) on run-outs, put backs, and other transition chances so his offensive counting stats should be okay next season.
 

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Wynn/Encore casino is THE place to be for LVSL. So many of the teams and other bb guys are here. Just chatted it up w Jim Boeheim when he was waiting for seat at poker room. Super nice guy.

Edit: They jumped him over the entire list and sat him immediately. Fuck that guy! Carmelo made him anyway.
 
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benhogan

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Wynn/Encore casino is THE place to be for LVSL. So many of the teams and other bb guys are here. Just chatted it up w Jim Boeheim when he was waiting for seat at poker room. Super nice guy.
His son, Buddy is probably playing for Detroit SL

on another note, Kabengele playing for the ATL Hawks SL team
 

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I was trying to find the right description/comp for Wemby tonight and it finally came to me....

He looked like a (lot) taller, younger, more raw Slo-Mo.
 

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Not directly Summer League related, but highlights of Cooper Flagg, the #2 ranked high school player in the Class of 2025, from Newport, Maine.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKj2QW7EAh8
Watched a lot of him this year...probably more than any HS player ever aside from LeBron and Marbury. Kid has got some serious game everywhere. He's pretty mature skill wise so wonder how much upside he has though.
 

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Watched a lot of him this year...probably more than any HS player ever aside from LeBron and Marbury. Kid has got some serious game everywhere. He's pretty mature skill wise so wonder how much upside he has though.
Upside is probably more on the physical side. Maybe he grows another inch or two? He also needs to add some upper body strength like any 16-17 year-old. Love the skillset though.
 

benhogan

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Watched a lot of him this year...probably more than any HS player ever aside from LeBron and Marbury. Kid has got some serious game everywhere. He's pretty mature skill wise so wonder how much upside he has though.
Wow, that was impressive. 1 man wrecking crew
 

Jed Zeppelin

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Walsh is raining threes with confidence. Also ripped down a contested board with 2-3 Heat around.
 

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Scoot and Amen can't stay healthy, who is beating Walsh for rookie of the year? Maison Plumlee? Oui Jianlian?