To be clear, I'm calling him "average." There is no pissing going on. RC Buford is the obvious answer to your question.JohnnyTheBone said:
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Way more than weed in play for a guy to get shipped to John Lucas for two months and throw out of two schools. Having said that Upshaw has Hassan Whiteside-type upside if he gets his head together. Worth noting, last month was the second time he's been shut down due to heart issues so there's that too.shawnrbu said:
I can't find it now but they ran a 2010 redraft a couple weeks back and Bradley was top 10, I forget where exactly. Toward the bottom, but top 10. It's surprising how few good players cone out of a typical draft.bowiac said:
I think that's not a big deal. If he's good, then you can probably find someone to take Bradley off your hands, and Thomas will probably fetch an asset back in time.Devizier said:
I'm wondering about the knock on his shooting. He shot 37% on 8 3PA a game as a Freshman. Seems like he stumbled with shot selection as a Sophmore. Shot prety well from the right, worse from the left and struggled at the rim.Devizier said:
Chris Mannix gives the pick a C and suggests that it seems to be a precursor to a deal down the road
http://www.si.com/nba/2015/06/25/terry-rozier-2015-nba-draft-boston-celtics
http://www.si.com/nba/2015/06/25/terry-rozier-2015-nba-draft-boston-celtics
His mechanics are not that bad and Pitino's system calls for 100% effort......so maybe in a more controlled environment in the NBA Rozier can learn to slow the game down. In a similar system at Florida we saw Bradley Beal shoot his 3's at 31% his only year in college.Devizier said:
I would need to look, but that doesn't sound right. I believe you ESPN ranked him there, but that was a very good draft, with Wall, Cousins, George, Hayward, Favors, Monroe, Bledsoe, Lance, and probably a few others I'm missing.moondog80 said:
Let's be honest though....when you are picking outside of the lottery pretty much everything is abundant. If you select a player who sticks in the league past his rookie contract you're doing good.Devizier said:
@sundownmotel: Terry Rozier loves pasta with ranch and sugar, is afraid of squirrels
fuckin hell
fuckin hell
You're probably right that one will but the problem is the other four probably don't have much of a career.
I don't see any you missed. I'd put him either 8th ahead of Lance or 9th in that draft. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_NBA_draftbowiac said:
In the ESPN redraft, one of he writers had him at 11, the other at 14.bowiac said:
Edit: guess this one http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/11020310/nba-redoing-2010-draft-john-wall-no-1-evan-turner-plummets was a year ago.
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Haha. I forgot about Whiteside. Yeah - ESPN is nuts. Bradley might not be top 15.moondog80 said:
I'll take a longer look at this sometime.
Seriously? Whiteside has played less than 1 full season of good basketball. Bradley has been one of the better defensive guards in the league for 4 seasons.bowiac said:
I am almost positive that was in a Zach Lowe piece about what Cleveland hoped they could get for the 24 pick and Haywood's contract. Lowe then said that would not be enough but that the Cavs really liked Bradley as a player and thought he was a great fit with LeBronE5 Yaz said:
Cellar-Door said:I'm wondering about the knock on his shooting. He shot 37% on 8 3PA a game as a Freshman. Seems like he stumbled with shot selection as a Sophmore. Shot prety well from the right, worse from the left and struggled at the rim.
His shooting declined when he was asked to be a ball-handler. He probably won't be doing that much and he can create his own shot. You guy saw how the C's performed when they got IT4 who is a guy who can get his own shot. The goal in the NBA is to spread the floor with shooting. He is small but ranked as a plus defender - it really isn't hard to see what Danny is trying to do here. They now need to get the right big and stretch four to make this team tough two years down the line. There happens to be a rim protector who may be available if they can pony up the right mix of players and picks. And there happens to be a free agent stretch four who would pair nicely with that big. I don't know if Danny can get either or both done but if he does, Rozier fits nicely with that model. Much nicer than Bradley or even Smart.
I don't think it matters. Danny is just collecting assets. Rozier isn't going to play more than Young did this year. If he can play, it's worth it.
I've not had any time to follow the draft but from a quick look at draft write-ups, it looked like all that was left were guys who could defend but couldn't score or guys who could score nut couldn't defend. Rozier might be able to do both. Might.
ESPN looks so dumb saying Jones will play with the Cavs when the whole internet knows he's not playing there.
You can probably make an argument for any order from 8-14. Point is, they picked him 19th. People (not you, necessarily) get upset about Fab Melo, but sometimes teams pick Fab Melos 2nd. Ask Memphis about Hassan Thabet. Drafting is hard. Ainge has done more than well enough given where he's picked.bowiac said:
It depends what the criteria is, but every GM in the league would trade Bradley for Whiteside today.Cellar-Door said:
I don't know why they insist on inserting these interactive boards into all these things but can't ever bother to iron out the kinks and train the people who are going to use it. It also added nothing of value and could have been said in 9 seconds
He ranks 19th by win shares. Win shares isn't a great stat, but that looks about right given the rest of the talent.moondog80 said:
I agree drafting is hard, but it mostly looks to me like Ainge drafted around the 19th best player with the 19th pick. Bradley's not a plus or a minus for him. This is also kind of my point - Ainge isn't a bad drafter. He's just not done much to make he think he's good.