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Clase has blown a non-save (needed work with a 4-run lead), thanks largely to Josh Naylor bobbling the ball on two consecutive plays. The Cubs official scorer doesn't even attempt to appear professional, so Clase will be charged with all 4 runs (the first bobble came after Naylor made a difficult diving stop, the second one was completely routine).

Extra-innings in Wrigleyville after a rain delay of several hours before they even got started.
 

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The Cubs are not smart... Josh Naylor, who can be found at the top of any list for late-inning and clutch rbi, came up with runners on 2nd and 3rd. Chicago chose to pitch to him and now trail by 2 runs.
 

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Clase has blown a non-save (needed work with a 4-run lead), thanks largely to Josh Naylor bobbling the ball on two consecutive plays. The Cubs official scorer doesn't even attempt to appear professional, so Clase will be charged with all 4 runs (the first bobble came after Naylor made a difficult diving stop, the second one was completely routine).

Extra-innings in Wrigleyville after a rain delay of several hours before they even got started.
Dumb rules question but why is Hentges being credited with the W here and not the Save? Clase hadn't yet been replaced when they took a 2-run lead in the top of the 10th, then Hentges came in and closed it out with said 2-run lead in the bottom of the 10th. I would have thought Clase gets the W, and Hentges gets the Save...?
 

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Dumb rules question but why is Hentges being credited with the W here and not the Save? Clase hadn't yet been replaced when they took a 2-run lead in the top of the 10th, then Hentges came in and closed it out with said 2-run lead in the bottom of the 10th. I would have thought Clase gets the W, and Hentges gets the Save...?
I believe the official scorer has leeway who to award the win to, but they almost never use it.
 

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I believe the official scorer has leeway who to award the win to, but they almost never use it.
So we're thinking the guy really does just hate Clase? Because unless the scorer did indeed use said leeway, is it correct to expect W-Clase / Save-Hentges?
 

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So we're thinking the guy really does just hate Clase? Because unless the scorer did indeed use said leeway, is it correct to expect W-Clase / Save-Hentges?
Rule 9.17(c): The Official Scorer shall not credit as the winning pitcher a relief pitcher who is ineffective in a brief appearance, when at least one succeeding relief pitcher pitches effectively in helping his team maintain its lead. In such a case, the Official Scorer shall credit as the winning pitcher the succeeding relief pitcher who was most effective, in the judgment of the Official Scorer.
 

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Rule 9.17(c): The Official Scorer shall not credit as the winning pitcher a relief pitcher who is ineffective in a brief appearance, when at least one succeeding relief pitcher pitches effectively in helping his team maintain its lead. In such a case, the Official Scorer shall credit as the winning pitcher the succeeding relief pitcher who was most effective, in the judgment of the Official Scorer.
Got it - many thanks!
 

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Rule 9.17(c): The Official Scorer shall not credit as the winning pitcher a relief pitcher who is ineffective in a brief appearance, when at least one succeeding relief pitcher pitches effectively in helping his team maintain its lead. In such a case, the Official Scorer shall credit as the winning pitcher the succeeding relief pitcher who was most effective, in the judgment of the Official Scorer.
It strains credulity to describe Clase as ineffective, though. He issued one walk and allowed no extra base hits. The first run was set up by a passed ball and the next three runs scored across four plate appearances with xBA of .100, .110, .230, and .040. Two of the three “singles” credited to batters during that sequence were groundballs misplayed by first baseman Josh Naylor that should have been charged as errors. That neither of those groundballs were charged as an error and Clase was further denied the Win suggests some bizarre bias at work.
 

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Just noticed that every MLB team except 7-3MIL and 3-7SD is 4-6;6-4; or 5-5 in last 10 games. I'm sure there's a simple explanation, the math of which eluded me, but it seemed interesting.
 

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Just noticed that every MLB team except 7-3MIL and 3-7SD is 4-6;6-4; or 5-5 in last 10 games. I'm sure there's a simple explanation, the math of which eluded me, but it seemed interesting.
The simple explanation is parity.

Slightly more complex explanation involves math, but when only 2 teams win >60% of their games and only 3 <40%, this sounds about right. Imagine flipping a coin 10 times, multiple times. Most of the time you’re going to get between 4-6 tails. The odd time you’re going to get 3 or 7. Anything else will be much rarer.
 

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This Rangers/Astros game is crazy. Texas was down 10-2 and have now cut it to 10-9, and it’s only the 5th inning.
Hope it gets wilder. The longer the game goes and the more relievers the Astros knock around, the better the chances are for a Red Sox win tomorrow afternoon.
 

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This Rangers/Astros game is crazy. Texas was down 10-2 and have now cut it to 10-9, and it’s only the 5th inning.
Houston scored 2 in the T9 to win 11-10. Texas had taken the lead 10-9 in B8.

Mike Trout removed himself from yesterday’s game while at bat in the 8th with a wrist injury. The Angels of course got blown out, 10-8, to SD.
 

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Padres put runners on corners with no outs against Ohtani, who then blows away Soto and Tatis sandwiched around an ill-advised caught stealing.
 

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Yeah, his first pitch to Sanchez after the back to back homers was spiked in the dirt and he shook his head and looked in the dugout. He pitched poorly but obviously something wasn’t right.
 

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Just because you can challenge doesn't mean you should. Myles Straw just gunned a guy down at the plate in the 10th inning. The Braves challenged the call. The runner never even touched home plate.
 

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Ozzie Albies kept the Braves hopes of a 10-game winning streak alive with his 2nd home run of the game in the 9th off Emmanuel Clase, but David Fry walks it off with a 2-out hit in the bottom of the 10th for a Cleveland victory.
 

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Side note to the recent Angels drama: don't count out the Padres yet! They've way underplayed their pythag by a lot and a lot of their guys have been better lately (Manny Machado, for instance - his numbers still look bad because his April/May were so terrible, but he's been decent since getting off the IL). They've got a lot of ground to make up, but the teams ahead of them have problems of their own. Plus you know they'll be aggressive at the deadline if they're even a little close.
 

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One of the YES Network camera operators just got hit with an errant throw from SS on a failed DP. Medical crews are attending to him, and the players have left the field. Really scary stuff.
 

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Got carted off, but was holding the towels/ice pack up to his own head and gave a thumbs up, so hopefully it isn't as bad as it seems like it could have been.
 

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Dave Martinez had the umpires look at De La Cruz’s bat in the 2nd inning because of a piece of plastic he has on the knob, which is approved.

Cruz came up later and crushed a homer into the second deck while pointing to the knob. This kid is a stud.
 

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Cardinals @ Marlins

Top 9: Jordan Walker hits a 444ft, 2-run missile to take a 9-8 lead. First clutch hit for the kid.

Bottom 9: Jordan Hicks walks the leadoff man, gives up a single, and then double-clutches on a comebacker before sailing it 10 feet over Goldschmidt down the RF line.

Marlins win 10-9. The 2023 Cardinals are the best disaster in baseball.
 

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So the De La Cruz bat thing made me wonder - will anyone ever try to cork a bat again? Or another way to look at it, will anyone ever get caught corking their bat again? Feels like a thing that's totally dead now, especially since there's no proof that you actually get any benefit from doing it.
 

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I might be alone on this, but with the titans of baseball radio/TV from its golden age gone (Scully, Gowdy, Kalas, Buck, etc.), it’s nice to pull on a Brewers home game, switch the audio to Brewers radio, and listen to Bob Uecker do his thing. Amazingly, I feel like his game is better than Castiglione’s, and Uecker started a few years before Castiglione got his start in Cleveland.
 

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Pirates load the bases with no one out in the top of the seventh, with the No. 2, 3 and 4 hitters coming up and don't score against the new Dodgers pitcher.

Yup, Brasier
 

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Pirates load the bases with no one out in the top of the seventh, with the No. 2, 3 and 4 hitters coming up and don't score against the new Dodgers pitcher.

Yup, Brasier
They loaded the bases with no outs again in the 9th. Once again failed to score
 

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Bottom 9: Jordan Hicks walks the leadoff man, gives up a single, and then double-clutches on a comebacker before sailing it 10 feet over Goldschmidt down the RF line.

Marlins win 10-9. The 2023 Cardinals are the best disaster in baseball.
That ball was so overthrown my first thought was Hicks was trying to (literally) throw the game.
 

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How has he not played a game at shortstop for the Red Sox this season?