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Discussion in 'MLB Discussion' started by SemperFidelisSox, Nov 1, 2018.
He was a realistic candidate to start the wild card game against NY even.
He (or Fiers) should have started. Dumbest move of the postseason.
Edwin's only 35
Yeah the age is kinda what shocked me, I figured he’d be expired by now and I didn’t pay much attention to the league outside Sox this year so I had no idea. Feels like he should be like Bartolo’s age. 35 and headed to 14th team, that’s kinda crazy.
I don't know if it'll work, but I admire the Twins for actually trying instead of conceding the division to a team that's actively trying to make itself worse.
If they don’t give away all the MFY games, maybe.
A's don't make the wild card game without Jackson. The guy was surprisingly good for them and a lot people weren't even aware that he was still in baseball.
Matt Shoemaker to the Blue Jays and it looks like Jonathon Lucroy is heading to the Angels.
Too bad for Lucroy his ridiculous bargaining demand in July 2016 didn't work out for him. If he had successfully gotten the Indians to decline his 2017 team option in exchange for him waiving his no-trade clause to Cleveland, he'd be entering his 3rd season of a very overpaid contract. Instead, he was shipped to Texas, where his no-trade clause didn't cover any bargaining power, and his career started to tank a year before he could hit free agency. Now he'll make just over $15M from 2017-2019.
Kikuchi nearing an agreement with SEA:
Per heymans Twitter:
Kikuchi has an unusual deal. Has initial 4 year guarantee (3 years plus 2022 player option) but 4th year player option can be replaced by an additional 4 year guarantee for a total of 7 years by the #Mariners
The numbers are 3/43 definite, 4th year player option at 13, additional potential guarantee at 4/66, so it will be 3/43 (if they decline the team one and he declines the player one), 4/56 (if they decline the team option and he takes the player one) or 7/109 (if they take the team extension option).
This seems structured to game the posting fee system.
Options, bonuses, etc. are covered under the agreement.
So the posting fee is guaranteed $9.4M plus 15% of whatever else he gets paid under the options. If the optioned amounts had been guaranteed, the posting fee would have been $175K higher, as the first $7M would have been "taxed" at 17.5% instead of the option rate of 15%.
Robertson to the Phillies on a two-year deal.
Less than an hour ago Bradford wrote that the Kimbrel market was down to Philly, Boston, and maybe Atlanta. Does this take Philly out of it?
I'd say so. Their pen isn't great, but has enough decent bodies that I don't think they invest any more money in it with Robertson, Dominguez, Neshek, Neris, Hunter, Nicasio from the right side. They might upgrade the lefty options (Alvarez, Morgan) but that's about it.
Should Philly fail to ink either of Harper or Machado, they might allocate that $ on Kimbrel.
So much for Robertson wanting to pitch close to home.
I roll my eyes every time I see that someone is going to chose to play close to home. These guys almost always take the most money.
He’ll be comfortable in Philly. It’s like a baby New York.
True. I've heard there's a lot, a lot of culture.
This is where all the MFY fans say "Robertson was on the back nine, he was not very good for us last year, it's best to move on", yet if they had resigned him, it would be "Outstanding news, another piece of the puzzle is in place, GREAT move, now go get Harper, Machado, Britton, Koufax, Gibson and Palmer and call it a day".
I'd much rather have Robertson than Britton, but maybe they want a lefty. But I'll also take Harper and Machado.
Big fan of Robertson but if I have to pick two of three of him and Britton and Ottavino, I think I am taking the latter two. Good luck to the Houdini of the bullpen, glad he is in the other league, and he probably cost himself some money by acting as his own agent.
Or you could just go read commentary before anyone signed basically saying that Robertson was interchangeable with the other available options. Happy for Robertson and grateful for his contributions but he's not likely to be much, if at all, better than Ottavino or Britton.
Name ERA WHIP K/9 BB/9 FIP WAR
Adam Ottavino 3.63 1.27 11.36 4.24 3.58 0.5
Andrew Miller 2.95 1.13 11.44 3.09 2.94 0.9
Craig Kimbrel 2.8 1.07 13.59 3.61 2.72 1.4
David Robertson 3.32 1.19 11.19 3.42 3.27 0.8
Zach Britton 3.01 1.32 8.74 3.65 3.24 0.5
Great post, big reality.
Juan Vene, a Venezuelan baseball journalist who used to own the rights for MLB radio broadcasts for Latinamerica and transmitted the game of the day in the 80’s, said today Machado is considering the White Sox 300 million 10 year offer and that Marwin Gonzalez is going to the Nationals. http://www.milenio.com/opinion/juan-vene/en-la-pelota/marwin-esta-cerca-de-ser-un-national
Mariners officially announce the signing of Japanese left-handed pitcher Yusei Kikuchi
Meet the newest Mariners pitcher: ‘Hi everyone, my name is Yusei Kikuchi’ (in English!)
Adapting to the MLB rotation (NBP pitchers typically throw once / week)
He seems like a nice kid. I really hope that he becomes an all star.
Kind if crazy to me that after all this Harper is probably going to go back to Washington and Philly is looking like it won’t get either of the top free agents after they essentially declared themselves open for business. I guess they could turn around and give a ton of money to Kimbrel and Keuchel.
Gut feeling on Harper or have you seen/heard something?
Apparently the Nats offered him much more than 300 mil, and they are considered the favorites to land him. That would be a surprise -- I'd expect the Nats would then trade Adam Eaton, who has been hurt a lot the past two seasons but has always been productive and is under cheap control for three more years. It also might lead to bidding war between the Yanks and Phils for Machado.
Chicago White Sox: buyers
Jeff Passan (@JeffPassan)
Reliever Kelvin Herrera and the Chicago White Sox are in agreement on a two-year, $18 million deal with a vesting third-year option, sources tell ESPN.
I'd say that Ottavino's price just went down.
I think that's wishful thinking, Herrera is coming off an injury and probably not ready to start the season.
Ottavino is in the tier where everyone (besides Britton) is getting 2 years + an option/ 3rd year buy out. I think it’s more likely that he can leverage 2 teams like the Yankees and Red Sox against each other to get a 3rd year than it is that he’ll accept less because of Herrera’s precedent.
Herrera is coming off a rotator cuff injury and his K/9 has been dropping for the past 2 seasons. That contract is mind boggling to me. I would have thought he’d be 1 year with a modest base and incentives that paid him like a closer if he pitched like one.
I don't mind the Herrera move for Chicago. They have a gazillion dollars worth of payroll room and not much else to do with it, this deal will never impact their spending in other areas. Maybe they also sign Harper or Machado, their young guys all mature ahead of schedule, and Herrera helps them contend for a WC. That's unlikely. The more foreseeable upside as that Herrera is effective, the team still sucks, and they move him and his 1.5 years of control for a prospect in July.
This guy broke the Robinson Canó suspension news last season and Nelson Cruz to the Twins a few days ago.
Wow, Grandal to the Brewers on a one year deal, good job turning down that four year offer from the Mets.
I'll believe the Yankees are out of this when I see Machado playing for another team
Jeff PassanVerified account @JeffPassan 2m2 minutes ago
Yasmani Grandal's one-year deal is for $18.25 million, source tells ESPN.
Milwaukee is in pretty serious GFIN move to give a pillow contract to a QO-reject
They were one game from being in the World Series last year. Of course they're going for it
It's a lot less exciting when you realize he turned down the $17.9M qualifying offer from LA a few months ago as well as a 4 year/$50M+ offer from the Mets more recently. Terrible job by his agent.
MIL now has their highest payroll ever by far, $132M currently. That has to make it less likely they will trade for Sonny Gray as was still being rumored today, maybe he'll end up in SD.
Also, terrible job to Grandal in the postseason.
Honestly I’m becoming more confident that we are going to have a longggggg work stoppage/lockout/strike when this CBA expires.
Owners are going to try and make the CBA even more one sided towards owners than this current CBA already is and I hope tony Clark actually grows a pair and doesn’t cave to their demands.
And honestly given how terrible the last few offseason have been in terms of good players getting screwed $$$, I wouldn’t blame MLBPA if they strike. They deserve to get paid what they actually deserve.
The system is broken and it needs to be fixed. I mean he couldn't even beat the deal that Russell Martin got 4 years ago, despite being younger than Martin when he hit FA and having near similar wins in the 4 years prior to FA ( via Craig Goldstein) ..... Grandal's deal is only three hundred fifty thousand more than the damn QO for this season...
Sure, but the Mets offer came after that.