2016 Jimmy G: Jimmy Who?
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There goes soxfan's joke about a trade to the Browns after week 4. If there was any chance of that, now he is here for the season and that is probably a good thing.
Value depends on whether he plays anymore -- which we don't want.
Had be played for 4 like he played for 1.5, I think he would have gotten them a first. Now? A game and a half and only a half of superb play is not a big sample size.
There's no way a FA starts on Thursday. None. And at that point it's only 1 more week til Brady is back. Bring in a backup, pay him for 2 games, then move on.
Who that may be is the question?
Manning could actually learn the playbook by Thursday---he probably already basically knows the concepts.
Could you even imagine?
But no....it'll be Flynn or Stanzi backing up Jacoby Thursday.
Could you even imagine?
But no....it'll be Flynn or Stanzi backing up Jacoby Thursday.
Ink would still be wet when the NFL announces that they made a mistake, and have re-opened the investigation into the Manning HGH allegations.Maybe sign Manning?
Yikes. Out of the group, Flynn was in NE camp so most likely the one who gets signed.
Unfortunately, they didn't bring any outside QB during training camp as they had Brady, JG, and Brissett all needing snaps.
Patriots game plan won't let him be a disaster. It's going to be pretty vanilla.
This would be the most epic troll of all time and I for one, would love it. Mouthbreathing NFL fans everywhere would short-circuit due to cognitive dissonance.Maybe sign Manning?
Plus, I'd love for Peyton to hold Tom's clipboard the rest of the year and make nacho jokes.
Yates played in BOBs system in Houston so that'd be a natural fit.
I'd figure they'd want someone here in time for practice tomorrow so there's a good chance they sign someone tonight.
I'd figure they'd want someone here in time for practice tomorrow so there's a good chance they sign someone tonight.
Could people stop with that nonsense. This is the Jimmy G injury thread. If you want to talk about the same tired topic of trading Jimmy knock yourself out by starting a new thread. Let' keep things on point here. Plus no team is going to trade anything for an injured Qb. The trade topic is for another time.
I think it's valid to wonder about his trade value, if only for the offseason.
I'd be shocked of the Pats weren't prepared for this scenario. Going with a rookie as the only backup QB option was a calculated risk. I pretty good one to take, at least in my opinion, but still a risk. Someone was on the phone with their emergency option before half time was over.
Spent a preseason with the team? CHECK.
Knows McDaniels's system/terminology? CHECK.
Readily available and waiting by the phone for just this situation? CHECK.
Would allow Belichick to run the wishbone if he had to play because of an injury to Brissett? CHECK-PLUS.
"I'm happy to be able to help out Coach Belichick and the Patriots for a few weeks."
Knows McDaniels's system/terminology? CHECK.
Readily available and waiting by the phone for just this situation? CHECK.
Would allow Belichick to run the wishbone if he had to play because of an injury to Brissett? CHECK-PLUS.
"I'm happy to be able to help out Coach Belichick and the Patriots for a few weeks."
So now what do you do with Jimmy if he's out 6-8 weeks? IR and use the return on him or just ride yet another man down for a while? I know he's proved to be quite valuable, but I'd rather avoid using the return on someone who probably won't play a meaningful snap. I think I'd play another man short and hope for the best.
To clarify, I mean keep him on the roster.
To clarify, I mean keep him on the roster.
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Just want to add a really tough break for Jimmy. He was playing real well, and would have positioned himself well for a starting job next year, and potentially bigger contract after that. Maybe it's stating the obvious, but still should be noted in this thread. And, yes, this destroys any chance of his netting a first rounder this offseason (he was never going to be traded during the season).
Lindley or Flynn will be the backup. If they can win one of the remaining Jacoby games, they'll still be 3-1 going into Brady's return. Given the opposition, it's still achievable. Hopefully, Garappolo can return to full health by mid season. It looked extremely painful on TV, so we'll have to see.
Lindley or Flynn will be the backup. If they can win one of the remaining Jacoby games, they'll still be 3-1 going into Brady's return. Given the opposition, it's still achievable. Hopefully, Garappolo can return to full health by mid season. It looked extremely painful on TV, so we'll have to see.
It's definitely an odd situation.
Personally, I'd prefer they just make him the inactive QB for now, and live with Brady/Brissett once the Bills game is over.
Radiographs would be primarily for the clavicle, no.....? (IIRC something DRS alluded to)
Coming at it from a position of 100% cynicism, it would make sense to do whatever possible to get Jimmy on the field for week 4 figuring you won't need him for some time afterwards (barring injury to Brady).
Channeling Jim Otto, Mike Webster, Darryl Green football.
I don't think this happens much anymore, much less with QBs.
There's no way I rush JG back. He needs to be at 100% if Brady goes down later in the season. JB will learn a few plays for Thursday and a few more for Buffalo - maybe he pulls off a win, maybe not. I'll take 2-2 with the league's best QB tandem healthy, and I'm giddy at 3-1.
Yes.
Two weeks ago we'd all be violently high fiving strangers if we knew the team would be 3-1. NE has two cracks at that against teams who will not be a threat to blow their doors off. I like their chances.
Now if they were to win both? That would make the haters' tears that much sweeter.
Prob had shoulder, chest films, possibly humerus as well depending on his physical exam. No dedicated clavicle films usually - although advanced imaging (CT/MR) can be used to look for an occult fx - rare in my experience. The clavicle is well visualized on an AP chest and a shoulder series. Usually that's all you need to see the clavicle and you can assess for other potential injuries...like a pneumothorax
He's busy playing for the Mets minor league system.Spent a preseason with the team? CHECK.
Knows McDaniels's system/terminology? CHECK.
Readily available and waiting by the phone for just this situation? CHECK.
Would allow Belichick to run the wishbone if he had to play because of an injury to Brissett? CHECK-PLUS.
"I'm happy to be able to help out Coach Belichick and the Patriots for a few weeks."
I never was a big Tebow fan but that guy should be in the NFL in some capacity. He's a stud. Maybe not an NFL QB but I firmly believe he could help a team.
If the Pats get down to the fourth-string QB, they're probably talking about a pseudo-college run offense anyway ... so why the hell not?Spent a preseason with the team? CHECK.
Knows McDaniels's system/terminology? CHECK.
Readily available and waiting by the phone for just this situation? CHECK.
Would allow Belichick to run the wishbone if he had to play because of an injury to Brissett? CHECK-PLUS.
"I'm happy to be able to help out Coach Belichick and the Patriots for a few weeks."
Tebow in a recent interview basically said he was not too keen on adopting another position due to concussion concerns. Given that, I doubt he could help any team.
Ooooooh. Nothing gets my bonsai tree grow more than the magical phrase, "start a new thread."
Wither AJ Derby, right? If he is inactive every week with Gronk not playing then he is likely the low man on the roster. Someone has to go to make room for another QB, good odds on it being Derby.
And if I recall correctly, he was not very effective. And he was highly experienced. Plus he is Ben -- losing a mouthful of teeth in a motorcycle accident was no big deal.
Woudn't vanilla equate to somewhat of a disaster when the defense knows that vanilla is coming? There is no way we don't incorporate some misdirection or creative play calling into the game plan......otherwise a disaster would be looming.
I think I would rather have Brett Farve's dick pic QB the team then the corpse of Peyton
Vanilla's not going to get it done against Houston. And you can't just hand off to Blount and White 60 times and expect that to work either.
Someone's going to have to get cut anyway when Brady comes back. Derby I suppose.
I'm not sure that today's JB7 play-calling will resemble what we see Thursday. It's pretty likely that he had very few reps with the regulars so far in his young career; that all changes tomorrow.
Couple that with the game situation (a big lead that admittedly was ever-shrinking), and it makes perfect sense that we got a heavy dose of ground and pound.
That said, he did nothing out there to make me think that we won't be able to see his playbook expand quite significantly on Thursday.
Couple that with the game situation (a big lead that admittedly was ever-shrinking), and it makes perfect sense that we got a heavy dose of ground and pound.
That said, he did nothing out there to make me think that we won't be able to see his playbook expand quite significantly on Thursday.
You probably just leave him on the roster.
After week four, wouldn't really cost you a roster spot anyway.
Very unlikely they would've dressed three QBs. I assume Brissett would've been inactive, Garappolo will just be the inactive guy until he's healthy.
I think the game plan is going to look similar to an early 2001 Brady gameplan with maybe a little in there to use his mobility and athleticism. Lots of screens, simple reads, a heavy reliance on the running game with the most likely path to victory coming from strong special teams and defense.
Gronk back would be real nice, can run some creative TE screens that are young QB friendly.
Gronk back would be real nice, can run some creative TE screens that are young QB friendly.
Kinda funny that the most sensible and scientifically valid position I've heard on this is coming from Tebow of all people.
They ran the classic Gary Kubiak "fake zone stretch one way, bootleg back the other way and throw to the tight end" play at least a couple times today, both with Garoppolo and Brissett. That's the sort of thing that's not like a trick play per se but not exactly vanilla either. It's a good complement to the run game (especially if the D overpursues the stretch), but it's a pretty easy defined read for the QB.
Jeff Howe @jeffphowe 2m2 minutes ago
Good news for Garoppolo. His shoulder isn't as bad as initially believed. It's a sprained AC joint. Still out Thursday, per sources.
Good news for Garoppolo. His shoulder isn't as bad as initially believed. It's a sprained AC joint. Still out Thursday, per sources.
He came back in the same game to lead his team on the game winning drive and went 24/37 for 339 the next week.
But that's Ben and that's the playoffs.
