Yabu's last dance

Reverend

for king and country
Lifetime Member
SoSH Member
Jan 20, 2007
64,040
Has it been pointed out that, absent a flotation device into which it is inserted, ballast sinks?
 

mcpickl

Member
SoSH Member
Jul 23, 2007
4,546
It would be such a gift if an nba team actually claimed him. C'mon NBA, one of you can do it.
 

OurF'ingCity

Member
SoSH Member
Apr 22, 2016
8,469
New York City
Mildly surprised they couldn't find a taker for Yabu to open up a TPE by including a second-round pick with him, but the Cs may have felt even a second-round pick is too much to give up for a $3m trade exception, which is probably right in retrospect given their new potential "salary ballast" they've acquired this year (Kanter, Theis, and you can also get there by packaging together a couple of the other non-starters like TL and Wanamaker or whatever).

Edit: I don't think this has anything to do with Tacko, btw. Much more likely they have someone else in mind who they can bring in for the vet min, or they don't have anyone specific in mind but want to have that open roster spot as the offseason continues.
 

RSN Diaspora

molests goats for comedy
SoSH Member
Jul 29, 2005
11,346
Washington, DC
Edit: I don't think this has anything to do with Tacko, btw. Much more likely they have someone else in mind who they can bring in for the vet min, or they don't have anyone specific in mind but want to have that open roster spot as the offseason continues.
This is by far the likeliest scenario, but there is at least a cracked door for Tacko.
 

DJnVa

Dorito Dawg
SoSH Member
Dec 16, 2010
53,850
Edit: I don't think this has anything to do with Tacko, btw. Much more likely they have someone else in mind who they can bring in for the vet min, or they don't have anyone specific in mind but want to have that open roster spot as the offseason continues.
If they don't have anyone in mind, why do it now?
 

Big John

New Member
Dec 9, 2016
2,086
I assume Yabu will be stretched if he clears waivers which may open up a little more than the minimum for a free agent.
 
Last edited:

HowBoutDemSox

Member
SoSH Member
Aug 12, 2009
10,103
Does stretching him allow us to get under the cap and sign whoever Ainge is giving this spot to (Tacko?) something more than the minimum (and thus longer than two years)?
 

Eddie Jurak

canderson-lite
Lifetime Member
SoSH Member
Dec 12, 2002
44,478
Melrose, MA
I don’t think there’s anything to be gained by stretching him, as the Celtics are above the cap.

If there is a team that is not capped out who wants to help the Celtics, they might take Yabu and cash to swap second round picks or something. That would get the C’s a little trade exception.

I partly wonder if Yabu wants out of his deal to go back to Europe.

At the end of the day, though... Yabu is Grant Williams without the talent.
 

Big John

New Member
Dec 9, 2016
2,086
I think the guy they may want to spend extra on is Edwards. If they put Tacko on the roster it will likely be for the minimum.

I can't find a definitive list of which teams have what cap space left as of July 9, but I doubt if many teams projected to make the playoffs have significant space.
 

mcpickl

Member
SoSH Member
Jul 23, 2007
4,546
I don’t think there’s anything to be gained by stretching him, as the Celtics are above the cap.

If there is a team that is not capped out who wants to help the Celtics, they might take Yabu and cash to swap second round picks or something. That would get the C’s a little trade exception.

I partly wonder if Yabu wants out of his deal to go back to Europe.

At the end of the day, though... Yabu is Grant Williams without the talent.
The Celtics are currently under the cap. Theis and Kanter have agreed to deals but haven't signed yet. Stretching Yabusele probably wouldn't make any difference, because it wouldn't leave them much more than the minimum, at least for an older vet. If they traded yabusele, or he got claimed, they'd have his 3. 1M to spend on a free agent instead of a minimum.
 

OurF'ingCity

Member
SoSH Member
Apr 22, 2016
8,469
New York City
If there is a team that is not capped out who wants to help the Celtics, they might take Yabu and cash to swap second round picks or something. That would get the C’s a little trade exception.
But we're already past that point, right? My understanding for the NBA was one a player is waived by a team, there are only two options - another team picks up the contract, or the waiver period expires and the contract is terminated. I don't think it's like baseball where you can trade a player on waivers, but I'm not 100& sure about that.
 

Big John

New Member
Dec 9, 2016
2,086
Well, there is a less than trivial chance that Langford busts and Doumbouya blows up, so that we will be driven insane on a triennial basis.
 

benhogan

Granite Truther
SoSH Member
Nov 2, 2007
20,113
Santa Monica
This puts the final nail in my Turner pipe dream coffin for the Summer.

Maybe Santa Danny will deliver Myles by Xmas...
 

Cellar-Door

Member
SoSH Member
Aug 1, 2006
34,463
Good thing Danny grabbed him at 16, he never would have been available at 23 or 31!

That draft almost drove me insane. Some might argue it did.
he needed to not pay the $ value for 16 so he could open up 2 max slots to make offers to Horford and KD, 23 or 31 wouldn't have opened up enough space.
 

nighthob

Member
SoSH Member
Jul 15, 2005
12,678
If only DA had taken Giannis and Siakam . . . .
In fairness a lot of us were shouting when they chose Olynyk over Giannis and in 2016 even those of us that acknowledged the need to draft stash guys lamented that Boston hadn't cut ties with some of the flotsam on the roster sooner so that they didn't need to draft stash guys.
 

GreenMonster49

Well-Known Member
Silver Supporter
SoSH Member
Jul 18, 2005
644
I don’t think there’s anything to be gained by stretching him, as the Celtics are above the cap.
He is going to be stretched because the CBA calls for it. If a team waives a player between July 1 and August 31, the salary is automatically stretched over twice the remaining contract plus one year, not just for cap purposes but also for purposes of paying out the actual funds. Link to current CBA. (See II(4)(k), pages 29-30, and VII(d)(6)(D), page 224.)
 

cheech13

Member
SoSH Member
Jan 5, 2006
1,608
He is going to be stretched because the CBA calls for it. If a team waives a player between July 1 and August 31, the salary is automatically stretched over twice the remaining contract plus one year, not just for cap purposes but also for purposes of paying out the actual funds. Link to current CBA. (See II(4)(k), pages 29-30, and VII(d)(6)(D), page 224.)
The team gets to choose whether or not the salary is stretched for cap purposes. It's not automatic.
 

Lazy vs Crazy

Member
SoSH Member
Jul 18, 2005
6,410
I doubt they'll stretch him. A million each of the next two years is probably worth more than the marginal cap space we'd get back by stretching.
 

sox311

Member
SoSH Member
Jan 30, 2004
1,753
That's what she said.
Good think Danny picked up his third year option to have salary to trade...

Nate Duncan lost his shit when he saw he did that. Those podcasters can be right every once and a while...
 

sezwho

Member
SoSH Member
Jul 20, 2005
1,951
Isle of Plum
Good think Danny picked up his third year option to have salary to trade...

Nate Duncan lost his shit when he saw he did that. Those podcasters can be right every once and a while...
Was still a good gamble at the time.

In fairness a lot of us were shouting when they chose Olynyk over Giannis and in 2016 even those of us that acknowledged the need to draft stash guys lamented that Boston hadn't cut ties with some of the flotsam on the roster sooner so that they didn't need to draft stash guys.
I definitely can't claim I had an Olynyk/Giannis opinion, but I was furious that they draft stashed Yabu (though did come to appreciate his contributions to Twitter if nothing else). It was the worst kind of drafting for need and compiling all those picks just to watch them get utilized sub-optimally was maddening in the moment.
 

benhogan

Granite Truther
SoSH Member
Nov 2, 2007
20,113
Santa Monica
Whew. Glad Yabu is off the Celtic floor. The guy had little body control. Always had nightmares of him taking out Jaylen and Jayson's legs diving for the ball he just dribbled off his own foot.

au revoir Monsieur Yabusele, profiter du steak et des frites! (love when I can use my 9th grade French)
 

sezwho

Member
SoSH Member
Jul 20, 2005
1,951
Isle of Plum
Whew. Glad Yabu is off the Celtic floor. The guy had little body control. Always had nightmares of him taking out Jaylen and Jayson's legs diving for the ball he just dribbled off his own foot.

au revoir Monsieur Yabusele, profiter du steak et des frites! (love when I can use my 9th grade French)
Its better than my one year of 9th grade French...I had to google translate that.

Maybe its the green glasses but I don't recall him being the wrecking ball he was in the SL. That said, he became properly scary.

I'm guessing its because he was pressing to show something RIGHT NOW to save his job and the millions of dollars at stake in an NBA career, which would unfortunately be a well founded concern.
 

benhogan

Granite Truther
SoSH Member
Nov 2, 2007
20,113
Santa Monica
Its better than my one year of 9th grade French...I had to google translate that.

Maybe its the green glasses but I don't recall him being the wrecking ball he was in the SL. That said, he became properly scary.

I'm guessing its because he was pressing to show something RIGHT NOW to save his job and the millions of dollars at stake in an NBA career, which would unfortunately be a well founded concern.
Yabu injured my boy... Tommy wasn't happy

Agree, I think he was pressing, diving all over the place. He's a 300lb, lopsided bowling ball on the court.

https://celticswire.usatoday.com/2017/10/09/aron-baynes-injury-creates-depth-questions-with-celtics-bigs/
 
Last edited:

sezwho

Member
SoSH Member
Jul 20, 2005
1,951
Isle of Plum
Yabu injured my boy... Tommy wasn't happy
Agree, I think he was pressing, diving all over the place. He's a 300lb, lopsided bowling ball on the court.
I almost added something about Yabu being a left tackle in another life (he has very quick feet for that frame) but maybe D-Line would be a better fit.