Women’s World Cup ‘23 Game Thread (spoilers)

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Just caught up on the Sweden - Italy game. The US really needs to win their group and avoid the Swedes. I hope they are ready to score some goals against Portugal.
 

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I don’t get fans wanting to avoid teams to become World Champion, especially when rooting for a 3 peat. I want the most entertaining matchups possible. Not a path of tomato cans.
 

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France outclassed Brazil. Just a clinic in seeing out a game (except for that foul in the last 30 seconds).
Because France changed managers so late in the cycle, there’s a real chance that they grow into this tournament. They look so much better today.
 

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I don’t get fans wanting to avoid teams to become World Champion, especially when rooting for a 3 peat. I want the most entertaining matchups possible. Not a path of tomato cans.
Maybe because this USWNT clearly hasn’t found their groove yet and avoiding one of the top teams until that happens would clearly help them achieve that three peat. Do you cheer for the Patriots to get the 4 seed so they can play the toughest games on the way to the Super Bowl?

The top team earns the right to avoid the best team from the other group.
 

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This game was pretty wheels off entertaining.
you'd never know the ref wasn't from CONCACAF. Lots of nasty fouls judged a play-on, a questionable PK non-call, a questionable VAR overrule of a PK call, announcers were joking about "concacaf after dark" because it's like the middle of the night in Perth. Ref also was about to give a Panama player (Castillo?) a second yellow at about 35', when she realized the player was already on a yellow, and very obviously hesitated and then stayed her hand. And they said this ref had done the women's Euro final! Yikes.
 

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you'd never know the ref wasn't from CONCACAF. Lots of nasty fouls judged a play-on, a questionable PK non-call, a questionable VAR overrule of a PK call, announcers were joking about "concacaf after dark" because it's like the middle of the night in Perth. Ref also was about to give a Panama player (Castillo?) a second yellow at about 35', when she realized the player was already on a yellow, and very obviously hesitated and then stayed her hand. And they said this ref had done the women's Euro final! Yikes.
The few games I’ve seen there have been a lot of really brutal tackles allowed with very few cards and in some cases play ons… I thought part of VAR was getting these calls right..

It’s made for some very uneven play and sometimes players seem to stop because the foul seemed so obvious.
 

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Maybe because this USWNT clearly hasn’t found their groove yet and avoiding one of the top teams until that happens would clearly help them achieve that three peat. Do you cheer for the Patriots to get the 4 seed so they can play the toughest games on the way to the Super Bowl?

The top team earns the right to avoid the best team from the other group.
+1 Winning the World Cup is never easy.. the idea that a fan would want a harder path through is absolutely insane… there are zero fans of any other country that would think this way..

Edit: and after the group stage there’s basically no ‘tomato cans’
 

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Panama won the intercontinental playoff to get here, if you were wondering how that happened.
You are correct. The draw for the world cup groups was done on October 2022 but the intercontinental playoff wasn't until February 2023.
 

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This young woman collapsed grabbing her chest a couple days ago. I don’t even understand how she is out on the pitch never mind doing this.

 

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What a great 8 months for Federarion Royale Marocaine

Quite impressive also is FIFA’s progressivity in allowing a player play with a hijab in the WC
 

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Was that in doubt? I'd figure getting certain federations to let them play without one would be a harder task than letting a few players voluntarily wear them.
A few years back I advised a thesis that compared teenage Muslim girls’ organized sports participation across the US & UK. The lit and my student’s research suggested it was both - some orgs place arbitrary, ill-informed bans on hijabs typically on safety grounds. While there have been a variety of quality homemade remedies, a Dutch company called Capster started selling athletic hijabs around 2000. That company was founded by a gym teacher whose Muslim girls couldn’t participate in class. Anyway, Nike got into the game in 2018 and it is apparently a huge seller. It supposedly has one of the biggest profit margins of any Nike product.

On the other hand, many traditions that require women to wear the hijab also discourage young women from playing organized sports. But not all, and certainly there are some communities and families within more conservative traditions that have a different outlook. The increasing presence of hijabi athletes at the Olympics and World Cup is a reflection of decades of activism and cultural change.
 

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Japan downed Spain 4-0? Daaaammmnnn.

Spain had 77% possession. They competed over 900 passes!

Japan scored on 4 of their 5 shots on target.
 

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Congrats to Zambia on the win. They haven’t been paid for 2 years & their FA has taken the last 10 months to investigate whether the manager coerces his players into sleeping with him. Yes, 10 months and they still don’t know yet. What these women have overcome to get to the World Cup is unbelievable.

Nigeria are through!
 

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Japan downed Spain 4-0? Daaaammmnnn.

Spain had 77% possession. They competed over 900 passes!

Japan scored on 4 of their 5 shots on target.
If it’s good enough for the Spanish men why wouldn’t it be good enough for the women’s team?
 

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This is going to motivate Christine Sinclair to play another 4 years.
 

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Holy shit. That’s an insult to injury VAR PK call on Canada.
Yeah, that's one of those that, while a legit penalty by the book, never would have been given pre-VAR. That would have been a free kick from just outside the box because the ref would have thought a PK was too harsh for the foul and magically re-sited the foul by six inches.
 

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Props to the ref for blowing the whistle quickly and directing #22 off for a concussion check. Can’t remember a soccer ref being so proactive on a head injury.

Screw the Australia staff who sent the player back out within 10 seconds. What protocol?
 

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Now that the upsets are coming. I’m really regretting the time difference. It is what it is, etc, but following is just not as satisfying.
 

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Check this quote from Barbara Banda. It’s like the platonic ideal of a national team player. She’ll be a bigger star if/when she moves to Europe from China.

“I’ve been practicing penalties in training so I was confident,” Banda said. “At the same time, I was nervous ... carrying the hopes of thousands of people back home. It was an honour for me to take that penalty.”
 

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Now that the upsets are coming. I’m really regretting the time difference. It is what it is, etc, but following is just not as satisfying.
I've searched in vain for a good place for full-match replays (I have no idea if the Fox Sports App has them). But Spain-Japan might be one of the first matches I'd have watched in full.

The schedule for the remainder of the Group Stage is kinda brutal. All times ET.

Tonight, technically Tues 8/1: Group E, 3:00am (USA-POR, NED-VIE); Group D, 7:00am (ENG-CHI, HAI-DEN)
Wed 8/2: Group G, 3:00am (ARG-SWE, RSA-ITA); Group F, 6:00am (PAN-FRA, BRA-JAM)
Thu 8/3: Group H, 6:00am (KOR-GER, MAR-COL)
Fri 8/4: off

so like, maybe I get up for England-China tomorrow? I'd certainly love to root for some CONCACAF Thunder wednesday morning. But 6am is unlikely for me. HOWEVER:

R16 schedule, with likeliest teams as placeholders:
Sat 8/5: 1:00am SUI-ESP, 4:00am JPN-NOR, 10:00pm, USA?-ITA? <-- if we win tonight
Sun 8/6: 5:00am POR?-SWE?
Mon 8/7: 3:30am ENG?-NGR, 6:30am AUS-DEN?
Tue 8/8: 4:00am COL?-BRA?, 7:00am FRA?-GER? <-- real banger, that

So they put the likely USA R16 match at 10:00pm ET, the only R16 match not in Asia-Pacific primetime. If indeed that is our match and we win it, our QF would be 9:00pm ET (Fri 8/11), again the only game in the afternoon local time. Only the semis and finals would be at awkward o'clock. As for other games, if the final R16 match is indeed France-Germany at 7am, I may just wake up for it. But probably not the others.

Fun fact, Haiti is the only 0-point team still alive. If they have a 2-goal win against Denmark while England beats China (likely), they will advance on 3 points. The watch-the-world-burn outcome is England and Haiti both winning 1-0, which would leave the runner-up slot decided on fair play points (China likely to lose due to their direct-red card; Haiti's yellow card to the manager might come into play).
 

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Screw the Australia staff who sent the player back out within 10 seconds. What protocol?
I’m starting to think this might be a national problem. During an AFL match over the weekend, two players had a head-on-head collision. Neither player left the bench area to be assessed in a quiet room, and one player was back on the field within 5 minutes of being taken off. The AFL has since placed both players in a concussion protocol, and the club have been asked to explain the circumstances with the league, since this same club did the same thing last year.
 

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DeMelo and Rodman sit for Lavelle and Williams. No idea if those are good moves but I’m bummed as this is the first game I planned to watch and I wanted to see Rodman, I guess she’ll come in mid-game.