Why Do I Continue to Read Peter King?

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This isn't placed her to be a knock on PK, but I'm trying to remember the circumstance a few years back involving Boston teams. Was it the Papi Slame against Detroit and a Pats win?
Ten years ago on October 28*, the Pats throttled the Redskins by 52 points and the Sox won the World Series against the Rockies. So, Peter King, it is imaginable. I'd wager that New York City has had similar sports days, Philly, Minnesota, Atlanta, Miami. You know, cities that have more than one sports team.

And since I haven't read a MMQB in years, did King mention McNair's comments prior to this weekend's games? That sorta throws a monkey wrench into the Houston feel good day.

* My oldest daughter was also born that day too. It was the greatest day I ever had.
 

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Not quite as monumental from a football perspective, but there was also a nice win against Seattle at an overcast Foxborough the same day the ALCS comeback began in 2004.
 

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Not quite as monumental from a football perspective, but there was also a nice win against Seattle at an overcast Foxborough the same day the ALCS comeback began in 2004.
Actually IIRC that was the game they set or tied the record for most consecutive victories.
 

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Is a regular season loss by the Texans really one of the most scintillating sports events in the city's history?

Two NBA titles. Seven playoff games for the Texans over 4 seasons. Two gut crushing AFCCG losses to the Steelers by the Oilers. Two consecutive NCAA final game losses in the 80s. Astros in the WS a few years ago.
 

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Is a regular season loss by the Texans really one of the most scintillating sports events in the city's history?

Two NBA titles. Seven playoff games for the Texans over 4 seasons. Two gut crushing AFCCG losses to the Steelers by the Oilers. Two consecutive NCAA final game losses in the 80s. Astros in the WS a few years ago.
Scintillating in the sense that both games were insanely enjoyable to watch wire to wire, both with fantastic finishes. The Pats/Sox games in 2013 are a good comp, in that both games ended dramatically. PK isn't out of his mind to say that, it was almost 10 hours of pulse quickening athletic contests, culminating with the Astros winning one of the best world series games of all time, putting them one win away from a WS title in the first time in franchise history.

It wasn't insignificant.
 

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Actually IIRC that was the game they set or tied the record for most consecutive victories.
You are correct. It was a pretty important day for the Pats as well—their 20th straight win and 17th consecutive regular season victory.
 

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Here's a 'nugget' from today's MMQB:

"Belichick versus Landry, whose career record is different because, in part, he coached for 18 of his 29 seasons with a 14-game schedule, while Belichick has always coached 16 regular-season games:"

Followed immediately by a table (that I can't format here)

Seasons Games W-L-T Pct.
Belichick 23 397 270-127-0 .680
Landry 29 454 270-178-6 .603

Sooo...the difference is that BB had longer seasons, and not that he got to win 270 in 57 fewer games?

I know that the change in OT rules accounts for a small part of the difference, but...how could you cue up that data and not see the 57? At his current rate, BB will be at (well) over 300 wins by the time he reaches 454 games coached.
 

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is the MMQB a viable, successful site? I haven't read it in years, just wondering if it is a success in any way
 

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Here's a 'nugget' from today's MMQB:

"Belichick versus Landry, whose career record is different because, in part, he coached for 18 of his 29 seasons with a 14-game schedule, while Belichick has always coached 16 regular-season games:"

Followed immediately by a table (that I can't format here)

Seasons Games W-L-T Pct.
Belichick 23 397 270-127-0 .680
Landry 29 454 270-178-6 .603

Sooo...the difference is that BB had longer seasons, and not that he got to win 270 in 57 fewer games?

I know that the change in OT rules accounts for a small part of the difference, but...how could you cue up that data and not see the 57? At his current rate, BB will be at (well) over 300 wins by the time he reaches 454 games coached.
This also suggests Landry had more time to age and learn while accumulating his record than Belichick did, which seems like it could be an advantage.

Of course, then you have to consider their entire career trajectory and account for time as assistants and stuff, which unsurprisingly renders the entire exercise pointless.
 

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This also suggests Landry had more time to age and learn while accumulating his record than Belichick did, which seems like it could be an advantage.

Of course, then you have to consider their entire career trajectory and account for time as assistants and stuff, which unsurprisingly renders the entire exercise pointless.
But before we go full pointless, PK points out that Landry did really well with a roster built around a core of HOFers, and struggled with shifting rosters. Think he would have won 270 in the era of free agency?
 

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MMQB used to be my go-to Monday morning reading. As we all know, the content is just bad. But the format of the website makes it unreadable. Between the videos playing off to the side and the ads, I just can't tolerate it anymore. Horrible.
 

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Peter King on radio today thought it was incredible a gas station worker didn’t know who Doug Pederson was despite pumping his gas, carrying on a conversation, seeing his credit card. Sorry, Peter, but I could trip over Doug Pederson while pumping his gas and not recognize him




Maybe he thought it was that annoying Mrs. Nussbaum.
 

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The team with the best chance and motivation to deal for weird star wideout Odell Beckham Jr. was the Rams.

There’s that word again
 

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It's buried under some bullshit about imagining the Patriots in 2020 with McDaniels as the coach, but I agree with Peter and his awful sentence construction regarding the approach the Patriots will use in the draft.

I would be surprised if the Patriots packaged some of the draft choices, or a high one this year and next, to move up for a quarterback. First: They don’t have the ammo to move up for one of the top ones; the top four will likely be gone in the top 10 picks, and maybe in the top five. Second: Their needs elsewhere are too acute to go all-in for a quarterback this year. So, barring a big surprise, the Patriots won’t mortgage these picks to move up for a passer.
 

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We bust his balls, but King was one of the few assets short of Kate Upton's tits that kept people paying attention to SI any more. This is a bad thing for the magazine and for SI.com
 

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We bust his balls, but King was one of the few assets short of Kate Upton's tits that kept people paying attention to SI any more. This is a bad thing for the magazine and for SI.com
Olderperson here (SI subscriber since 1972; very cheap "professional subscription rate" for the past 20 years or so).

After a somewhat lengthy slide, the writing in SI has been really good the last 2-3 years. The format is obviously in its death throes (the magazine is now, or soon will be, bi-weekly), but I have found it to be a worthwhile read lately, even beyond King. I know I can probably read most of it online, but there are many times when I'd rather read the 'zine than the screen.

And while his balls were often bust-worthy, his football content was usually worthwhile.
 

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I still like reading the magazine. Maybe I could get the stories online faster; but there is honestly so much content online there is an unlimited number of stories I want to read at any given time. Since I was 7 or 8, SI has come in the mail and I've read through it and it is part of my weekly routine. I don't read every story, but out of the 4-5 features they do every week chances are I can find one or two well-written, interesting pieces.
 

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So is the MMBQ site still going to exist? I always thought it was total zero and likely a fail as a business, but there has never been any reporting on it (say compared to 538, Grantland, The undefeated or the Ringer.
 

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According to the Washington Post, King's Monday column will run on NBCSports.com
 

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According to the Washington Post, King's Monday column will run on NBCSports.com
So like Simmons he hired a bunch of nfl writers to be part of mmbq.com. Are they all going to nbc?

Norman Chad had a scathing tweet up on King when the news hit but then he deleted it.
 

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I still like reading the magazine. Maybe I could get the stories online faster; but there is honestly so much content online there is an unlimited number of stories I want to read at any given time. Since I was 7 or 8, SI has come in the mail and I've read through it and it is part of my weekly routine. I don't read every story, but out of the 4-5 features they do every week chances are I can find one or two well-written, interesting pieces.
It sounds more like you enjoy getting unplugged for a moment and reading print as much as anything.

Which makes a lot of sense to me.
 

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We stopped in on vacation with grandson Freddy in tow and just loved the Truckee Kolsch—classic hoppy Kolsch taste, cold and perfect for a broiling day.
Some breweries may do a style of Kolsch that is hoppy, but a "classic" Kolsch would not be hoppy at all.
 

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He really needs to change things up. It's the same content, different website. Like the stupid haiku, beernerdness, coffeenerdness etc. Waste of ink.
 

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Bump for not only a Patriots-heavy lead-in (NBC synergy at work), but this blindside at Seth Wickersham:

Last December, when the franchise was being Wickershamed with the end-is-near storyline of a dying dynasty, it seemed hard to imagine the team would make an eighth Super Bowl this century and spend the next year seriously contending for a ninth. But here we are, with new stars we never saw coming, for a franchise on which new stars are an annual way of life.
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/11/05/patriots-packers-tom-brady-fmia-nfl-week-9-peter-king/?cid=nbcsports
 
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Was actually reading this when you posted it.

Of course, he shat all over the Pats acquiring Josh Gordon a few weeks back, then gave him a back-handed compliment in today's column.

Weird.
 

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It's funny -- last night I was thinking about where I could read a roundup of the NFL action this week and realized that I hadn't even thought about Peter King in a long time. Then, by coincidence, this gem got tweeted into my timeline this morning:

I call people the way I see them, and the way I experience them. I did not see racism in Bob McNair.

Yeesh.
 

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Peter King thinks all of the NFL owners are swell guys and that Roger Goodell is the best of the best. Unless someone really pisses him off, King treats every owner like his own dad.
 

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If ever there was a time to haul out the old "that's very white of you, Peter" ...
 

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j. News Story of the Week: by Sarah Mervosh of the New York Times, on the rate of gun deaths in 2017 being highest in at least 50 years. Of the 40,000 deaths by gun, two-thirds were suicides.

k. Shrug.
 

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6. I think you may have your holiday shopping done, but if not, and if you’re around a bookstore today, look for “Collision of Wills,” a book by Jack Gilden on the rocky relationship between Don Shula and John Unitas in the sixties. But it’s about more than that—it’s about football in the sixties too. I had Gilden on my podcast recently, and he read a passage from his book about Vince Lombardi and his nonchalant approach to concussions (according to former Packer center Bill Curry), that really slapped me in the face:

In his second year Curry played in a preseason game against the Steelers. He was kicked in the head with a blow so violent, he dropped to the grass as if gunshot. In fact, he had just suffered another severe concussion. He attempted to regain his senses and continue playing, but when the quarterback signaled for the ball, Bill failed to snap it two times in a row.

After the game he wasn’t even capable of dressing himself. His wife had to be called to the locker room to put his clothes on for him. Later that night, at a team dinner, Lombardi checked on Curry’s heath by asking a series of questions.

“Curry, do you know where we are?”

“No, sir,” Currey answered.

“Do you remember how you got here?”

“No, sir. I sure don’t.”

Curry, who won the game?”

“We did, Coach.”

“Good!” Lombardi screamed, and everyone erupted in laughter at the sight of an intelligent young man reduced to the state of an advanced geriatric patient by a serious brain injury.

Two days later Curry still had a “splitting headache.” He was sitting in the locker room holding his head when Lombardi walked in and ordered an assistant coach to take the young player out on the field in full pads. Ray Nitschke, one of the most feared men in football, was already outside waiting for him. The two were instructed to smash each other at full speed, over and over.

7. I think that gives me second thoughts on the legacy of Lombardi. To be clear, this is the remembrance of one man, Curry, and the other man, Lombardi, is not here to address this story. And if Curry was concussed at the time, it’s certainly possible that his memory of the events has been affected. Also, head trauma was not treated with the gravity it should have been then; we know that now. But man, that is a tough thing to read about Lombardi. No matter how you feel about him, he did have a great run coaching the Packers, and that story is disturbing.‘

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I mean, he had a bigger emotional reaction to the Patriots not ‘re-signing’ Brandin Cooks - who wasn’t a free agent - and the closure of a NYC restaurant than he did to this fucking story about the legendary, mythic Lombardi. To boot, he suggests that the story might be a figment of Curry’s imagination.

What a tour de force of Peter Kingness today’s column is.
 

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He sounded apoplectic the other day that Brown didn’t return Tomlin’s calls and texts.

THE INSOLENCE OF DISRESPECTING THE SACRED FOOTBALL HEAD COACH.
 

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King follows up in his Monday column spending real estate building himself a soapbox about this, then comparing it to his stance on Darren Sharper -- which people who can't read misconstrued -- the finishing with this gem:

"I told the Brown/AP story to Mike Florio on his “PFT Live” show on NBC Sports Network on Friday morning—not to puff my chest out and say, “See what I did to Antonio Brown?” I’ve been transparent on things like all-pro voting and the Pro Football Hall of Fame voting, and this was such a unique story that I felt I should tell it."

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/01/07/nfl-wild-card-weekend-fmia-eagles-chargers-peter-king/?cid=nbcsports#conference-semis
 

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King's replacement, Breer, spelled the first name of the Bears's Hall of Fame RB "Gayle."
 

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King's replacement, Breer, spelled the first name of the Bears's Hall of Fame RB "Gayle."
Mentioning Sayers prompted me to look up the 1965 NFL draft. The Giants had first pick and drafted Tucker Frederickson. The Bears had the third and fourth picks and drafted Sayers and Dick Butkus. No wonder the Giants had a 15 year or thereabouts run of mediocrity.
 

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He said Gronk was invisible out there again yesterday vs the Chargers. I guess all those rushing yards gained in no small part by his superb blocking didn't count.