Who's Next if Cora Leaves?

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I googled (and binged) Tony Lovullo and got Torey Lovullo. Copilot doesn’t know him either. So, there is a Tony Lovullo?
Yeah. Absolutely. I am really surprised that someone on this board doesn't know who Tony Lovullo is. I've lived in Massachusetts pretty much my entire life and I know about him. He's a legend.

You should definitely do what you can to find out more about him. His story of how he became a manager and what he's done for that school is so, I hate to use these words, but he's just so awe inspiring. The Tony Lovullo story is excellent and I'd love for him to get his shot to manage the Boston nine. But knowing old Tony, I think he's going to say "Thank you very much Mr. Henry" and stay in Iowa.
 

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i’ve felt for a while that managers have been underpaid. with councel, that appears to finally be changing. you’re trusting these people with 200-300M worth of investment, pay em to run it properly.
I'd wait for some more data on that. Counsell's new team is currently in last place and his old team is in first. Maybe in the current era of every team having the same data and equivalent analytics teams, the manager matters less than ever.
 

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I'd wait for some more data on that. Counsell's new team is currently in last place and his old team is in first. Maybe in the current era of every team having the same data and equivalent analytics teams, the manager matters less than ever.
But that principle would also apply to apply to Bailey, and it seems clear he is a huge plus. I think having the same data is one thing but knowing how to utilize it and how to adapt and adjust on the fly is another.
 

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If Cora left, would he take Fatse with him? Prior to this year I'd have said good riddance, but the turnaround has been astonishing.
 

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Yeah. Absolutely. I am really surprised that someone on this board doesn't know who Tony Lovullo is. I've lived in Massachusetts pretty much my entire life and I know about him. He's a legend.

You should definitely do what you can to find out more about him. His story of how he became a manager and what he's done for that school is so, I hate to use these words, but he's just so awe inspiring. The Tony Lovullo story is excellent and I'd love for him to get his shot to manage the Boston nine. But knowing old Tony, I think he's going to say "Thank you very much Mr. Henry" and stay in Iowa.
No matter which search engine I use, including AI Copilot, it comes back with Torey, not Tony. Is this guy like an unknown until Apple TV+ Ted Lasso but in real life?
 

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If Cora left, would he take Fatse with him? Prior to this year I'd have said good riddance, but the turnaround has been astonishing.
Fatse's done some magic with Rafaela in particular. The link is to a Jen McCaffrey piece from six weeks ago about some stuff they were working on.

On Tuesday in Baltimore, Rafaela tried something different to spark his offense. For the past month in the batting cage, Rafaela had been practicing a new stance in which he brought his hands down a bit, angling his bat upward, rather than holding his hands above his head and his bat flat, almost parallel to the ground. The new stance was designed to allow him to get into his swing quicker and catch up to fastballs. The process of getting a feel for the new stance, locking in cues and timing was gradual, but Tuesday, hitting coach Pete Fatse suggested to Rafaela he was at a point to try the adjustments in batting practice.

“(Manager) Alex (Cora) was throwing and it was homer to left, homer to right, homer to left,” Fatse said. “So it was like, ‘OK, let’s do it again, but just bring your hands a little bit more up.’ It was interesting how we got to where we are now. But yeah, this is exactly what we have been striving for for a while.”

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Part of what Fatse and assistant hitting coaches Luis Ortiz and Ben Rosenthal have been helping Rafaela with is relaxing his hands at the plate. They gave him a cue where he very subtly taps his elbows together before the pitch. In the cage, he does another more pronounced drill where he brings the knob of the bat to his knee before his swing, reminding him to lower his hands from his natural position up high. It’s also helped him stay in line with the mound.
 

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Looks like Old Tony has passed. In addition to his managing prowess, he was apparently a whiz on the keys.

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I googled (and binged) Tony Lovullo and got Torey Lovullo. Copilot doesn’t know him either. So, there is a Tony Lovullo?
There is ....no Tony Lovullo. I was just joshing (and making fun of myself!) ...
edit (thought was silliness was self-evident - sorry!)
 

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It was a Wednesday afternoon gag building off Cantor’s OP, you guys. I wish there was a Tony Lovullo but alas there is not. He will live along with Sid Finch in our dreams.
Yes - my original post about Tony Lovullo was in the spirit of Sid Finch, and I thought the language "you wouldn't have heard of it" made that self-evident!
 

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Yes - my original post about Tony Lovullo was in the spirit of Sid Finch, and I thought the language "you wouldn't have heard of it" made that self-evident!
I've been cracking up all afternoon about it. I considered playing along, but I don't think I could have improved on you and JMOH.
 

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I made the mistake of listening to Mazz for 10 minutes yesterday, and it was about Cora is going to leave because he feels disrespected by Henry and blah blah blah.
It all sounds like the usual made up boston sports media kerfuffle to me.
I'm so old I remember this last off season them criticizing ownership because they chose Breslow and didn't let him fire Cora.
"You now have a lame duck GM"
"Henry chose Cora over the GM!"
"Cora knows he runs the Red Sox because he's an ownership guy"
 

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I've been cracking up all afternoon about it. I considered playing along, but I don't think I could have improved on you and JMOH.
I was caught hook, line and sinker and spent an embarrassing amount of time trying to find the guy because the story was so compelling.

Kudos and a hat tip, well done.
 

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Liberace of the Accordion. What a title. What a country!
Yes Tony would often play the national anthem on the accordion before games. Some said he was virtuosic on the instrument. And crazily he was self-taught, couldn't even read sheet music! He knew two things well: the accordion and baseball. And according to former players, he would often use the intricacies of playing the accordion as a metaphor for baseball stuff. He had all his players take up an instrument, as part of their training. He was very into left/right brain, mind/body holistic approaches to the sport. It seemed to work.
 

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Sorry,and I have looked for articles.
But, what is the reason they are not bringing Cora back?
It's not definte that Cora is gone at the end of the season. Writers and fans are speculating as such since Cora will probably be the best manager available on the market. Cora will want to be paid as such(and after a year like this I think it's justified. ) . John Henry and friends haven't exactly been known to hand out the big money unless pressured by the fans and the media. However like the other poster stated, nothing is set in stone.
 

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You say that like it's a thing that's happening. His contract is up, maybe they'll rehire him, maybe not.
Fait accompli, you’d think reading a lot of these posts. He seems to give many more shits how the team does this year and is pretty much known as a players’ coach. I’m for his returning now. Make it happen, Theo.