Week Four: Three Undefeateds Remain

JerBear

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Reminder you can find the Amazon games completely legally at twitch.tv/primevideo and an alternate stream with overlaid "next-gen" stats at twitch.tv/primevision
 

Mugsy's Jock

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Is the Amazon Prime stream a mess for anyone else? Picture pixilated and breaks up periodically.
 

JCizzle

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I'm so conditioned to think that Goff is atrocious by listening to NFL media folks, but he seems to be actually kinda decent or maybe even pretty good?
 

azsoxpatsfan

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I have work league softball and completely forgot about TNF. This will be the first game I miss in awhile
 

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I'm so conditioned to think that Goff is atrocious by listening to NFL media folks, but he seems to be actually kinda decent or maybe even pretty good?
To me he’s kind of what Mac could be with some better line play / skill talent
 

JCizzle

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Packers are quite lucky that Carr got hurt because this team does not look good at all.
 

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I'm so conditioned to think that Goff is atrocious by listening to NFL media folks, but he seems to be actually kinda decent or maybe even pretty good?
I think a lot of NFL writers think he's pretty good in the right situation. He's horrendous under pressure, but DET has a good line and when he's not pressured he has a good arm and makes mostly good throws.
 

Cellar-Door

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Packers are quite lucky that Carr got hurt because this team does not look good at all.
Sam Monson had a stat this week that Jordan Love has had 31.5% of his throws this year deemed uncatchable, by far most in the league. Lot of things he does pretty well but he sprays the ball all over the place.
 

Gash Prex

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Can’t wait to hear more about Love being the next Aaron Rodgers

He is currently far too inaccurate and makes bad reads. He might be able to use his big arm to make some plays but it’s going to be very inconsistent
 

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Love may have his accuracy issues but shitting on him when his line is giving him maybe one second before the pressure arrives is ludicrous.
 

DeadlySplitter

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Already were, pre-season they were +145 (MIN 2nd at +310), now they're between -105 and +110 depending where you look
Makes sense given where each team was at. Now the Packers look meh, the Vikings are already 0-3. It's pretty cleared up. I guess by heavy favorite I mean over 50%, which a minus line is.
 

Dollar

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Detroit's 2023 draft was unbelievably good.
No doubt about it. And what a great trade that was...

Rams receive:
QB Matthew Stafford

Lions Receive:
QB Jared Goff
CB Ifeatu Melifonwu (2021 3rd-round pick)
WR Jameson Williams (2022 1st-round pick)
DL Josh Paschal (2022 2nd-round pick)
RB Jahmyr Gibbs (2023 1st-round pick)
TE Sam LaPorta (2023 2nd-round pick)
DT Brodric Martin (2023 3rd-round pick)

edit: I guess the above list is a simplified version of the outcome after some other trades, not the direct one-for-one trade results.
 

luckiestman

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No doubt about it. And what a great trade that was...

Rams receive:
QB Matthew Stafford

Lions Receive:
QB Jared Goff
CB Ifeatu Melifonwu (2021 3rd-round pick)
WR Jameson Williams (2022 1st-round pick)
DL Josh Paschal (2022 2nd-round pick)
RB Jahmyr Gibbs (2023 1st-round pick)
TE Sam LaPorta (2023 2nd-round pick)
DT Brodric Martin (2023 3rd-round pick)

edit: I guess the above list is a simplified version of the outcome after some other trades, not the direct one-for-one trade results.
Has to be one of the most win/win trades in NFL history. Rams got a SB out of it and Lions are thrilled
 

Dollar

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I've only been kind of watching and I've already seen Aaron Jones take 5 HUGE hits. He is not having an easy night tonight.

And the Lions defense hits HARD.