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TheoShmeo

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ForKeeps, that's a little bit cute. But mostly, it's weak and meaningless.

What in Sally Jenkins' last article (and really all of her articles) was inaccurate or not a fair summary of RG's foolishness? I think she nailed it but am open to other ideas if you want to move off snark and into an actual conversation. Either way, she certainly isn't a homer unless she's a closet Pats fan.

And Michael Hurley's last article actually contained some of the same ideas that Volin wrote that I noted above. To wit, he wrote:
Whether that actually happens — now, next week, at the owners’ meetings the week after that, or any time before the draft in late April — will be the real story. If Robert Kraft deems that he has been unmistakably wronged by Roger Goodell and the NFL, and if Robert Kraft demands to have the “DeflateGate” punishments amended and lessened, then we will have ourselves a big-time story. But if, ultimately, the team’s only war is waged on a WordPress blog, then there’s frankly not much to see here.
http://boston.cbslocal.com/2016/03/11/are-patriots-still-fighting-nfl-8000-word-essay-doesnt-make-it-clear/

That premise, which isn't wholly different than Volin's, assumes that Kraft's "demands" carry weight or he somehow has leverage. It also assumes that he hasn't made similar demands already to Goodell and the owners (or some of them).

Just as I think that Volin is off base when he says that the Pats should litigate if they are serious, I think that Hurley is wrong to suggest that the Pats efforts mean nothing unless Kraft "does something." To me, creating that website is a bold, seemingly unprecedented step, and it is probably close to or at the limit of what the Pats can realistically accomplish given the realities of their pact with the NFL and their non-existent chance of forcing the league to rescind the penalties (to the team and Tom).

So while I disagree with Hurley on an important element of the story and that certainly wasn't what I wanted to hear, I thought he did a nice job of presenting some of the key elements in the Pats most recent post and has done well throughout this story.
 

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The rodent's money paragraph on Brady/Pats (with the key sentence on Tom bolded and underlined):

Then look at Brady. He didn’t provide the relevant information from his cellphone, and didn’t tell anyone from the NFL that he had destroyed his cellphone until three months after the fact. His four-game suspension is more about his perceived noncooperation than it is football deflation. The Patriots’ $1 million in fines and loss of first- and fourth-round picks were also weighted heavily by the team’s refusal to provide follow-up interviews with John Jastremski and Jim McNally.
Does Volin have a source for the notion that the penalties were more about noncooperation than deflation? I get the logical argument for his position but that level of confidence usually implies that the author has some inside track. Volin cites none. So what do you actually know, Ben?
 

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The rodent's money paragraph on Brady/Pats (with the key sentence on Tom bolded and underlined):



Does Volin have a source for the notion that the penalties were more about noncooperation than deflation? I get the logical argument for his position but that level of confidence usually implies that the author has some inside track. Volin cites none. So what do you actually know, Ben?
Does it really matter? Just because some NFL party or parties are now spouting that line doesn't mean it's true.
 

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Does it really matter? Just because some NFL party or parties are now spouting that line doesn't mean it's true.
If you step back, all that really matters is that Tom is out for the first four games. How anyone spins the reasons or relative components is a side show. Whether they're right or not.

But from the perspective of evaluating members of the media, I thought it was interesting that Volin expressed his views so firmly and that in doing so implied, at least possibly, that he had a source in addition to the logical inferences he was making to support his conclusion. I exchanged a few e-mails with him and he eventually softened his stance to say that noncooperation "probably" played an important role (paraphrasing). Which is not what he wrote in the Globe.
 
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If you step back, all that really matters is that Tom is out for the first four games. How anyone spins the reasons or relative components is a side show. Whether they're right or not.

But from the perspective of evaluating members of the media, I thought it was interesting that Volin expressed his views so firmly and that in doing so implied, at least possibly, that he had a source in addition to the logical inferences he was making to support his conclusion. I exchanged a few e-mails with him and he eventually softened his stance to say that noncooperation "probably" played an important role (paraphrasing). Which is not what he wrote in the Globe.

OK, you're right. Boy, Ben sure steps in it when he tries to think for himself.
 

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Huh? What were you going to bump the thread for? What made you change your mind? Just curious...
 

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Because Volin made pretty much the same comment in his Sunday notes column a week ago, IIRC.
 

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Why is it always a blueprint? Is there an embargo on other words?
The Texans exposed a couple of significant flaws in the Patriots’ arsenal, providing the blueprint to beat them to any team that has even a marginal quarterback.
Step 1. Have a top-ranked defense.
One paragraph on how good Houston's defense is.
 

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The "blueprint" has been out there for over a decade: lots of QB pressure with <5 pass rushers, (i.e. hope the pats O-line completely shits itself).
 

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The "blueprint" has been out there for over a decade: lots of QB pressure with <5 pass rushers, (i.e. hope the pats O-line completely shits itself).
As "blueprints" go, that's right up there with "score more points than the other guys."
 

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No no no, it's 'get pressure up the middle and disguise/mix up coverages.' This approach will do wonders against Brady, but beware rolling it out vs Blake Bortles.
 

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Questions that Volin could have explored had he been so inspired:

1.) Do any of the remaining playoff teams have players of the caliber of the Clowney-Mercilus-McKinney trio?

2.) Does any QB not named Aaron Rodgers do well when the opposing D can generate interior pressure rushing 3 or 4?
 

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But when the Patriots couldn’t get the running game going early on Sunday night, they smartly ditched it and put the game in Brady’s hands.
Didn't they start out with 5 straight passes out of an empty backfield? How is that "ditching" the running game?