Tulo Traded to Toronto

ThePrideofShiner

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That's nuts. I thought Toronto's concern was lack of pitching? Where does Reyes play now, second base?
 

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I really cannot wait to hear the details on this, starting with what position Tulo is going to play.
 

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ThePrideofShiner said:
That's nuts. I thought Toronto's concern was lack of pitching? Where does Reyes play now, second base?
I'm not exactly up on either one of their defensive abilities, but both are still reasonably good shortstops, no?
 

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What a weird trade.
 
My first thought was Reyes to 2B, but they have a guy there (Travis) who is having a very good season. Maybe Reyes or Travis is on the move as part of this or another trade.
 
Damn, their lineup is going to become even more brutal.
 

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Reyes and "minor leaguers" going to Colorado
 
https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/625888822597918721
 

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Tulo's contract has a provision where if he gets traded he gets a full no-trade clause. Read Rockies will pay his salary for rest of this season. That means, the Jays are on the hook for a minimum of $98 Million until the end of 2020 (including a $4M buyout - or $15M for 2021). That's a lot of loonies if he can't stay on the field.
 

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Rice4HOF said:
Reyes is no longer a good defensive shortstop. 
Then Tulo at short makes sense. And I bet Travis stays at 2nd. So I wonder where Reyes ends up.

EDIT: Apparently in Denver
 

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Laser Show said:
Then Tulo at short makes sense. And I bet Travis stays at 2nd. So I wonder where Reyes ends up.

EDIT: Apparently in Denver
 
 
BCsMightyJoeYoung said:
In Colorado
 
I somewhat expect Reyes will be flipped to another team. He's got to be useful to a contender, and he's not exactly the type of player Colorado is going to want to build around.
 

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Stunned.

The rocks need pitching. They already have an all-star 2B in lemahieu and a ss in aaa banging on the door (Trevor story)
Have to assume the "minor leaguers" includes at least 1 of the Jays' 3 best pitching prospects.
 

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Sox and Rocks said:
Reyes a part of this, according to local sources, which makes no sense for the rocks
 
They've got to be spinning him, maybe to the Mets for pitching?
 

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Sox and Rocks said:
Yeah. Now reports of a 3rd team involved, though it isn't clear who yet. Makes sense if Reyes is involved
 
Reports from where?
 

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Phew. I was worried the Jays would end up landing one of the top starters they've been linked too - Hamels, Carrasco, Samardzija. This does nothing to address their pitching issues in 2015 and beyond.
 

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SemperFidelisSox said:
Phew. I was worried the Jays would end up landing one of the top starters they've been linked too - Hamels, Carrasco, Samardzija. This does nothing to address their pitching issues in 2015 and beyond.
If they didn't give up at least 3 of their 5 best prospects, they still have plenty of ammo to go get a starter.
 

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SemperFidelisSox said:
Phew. I was worried the Jays would end up landing one of the top starters they've been linked too - Hamels, Carrasco, Samardzija. This does nothing to address their pitching issues in 2015 and beyond.
 
This doesn't mean they're done. They're not giving up any top prospects in this deal.
 

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https://twitter.com/jonmorosi/status/625901240086499328
 
Miguel Castro looks like he'll be one of the prospects.
 

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That is Chris Cotillo shtick. When it sounds like something will happen, he then adds "SOURCES" and let's it play out, collecting credit when the obvious happens.
 

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Canadian baseball just got more interesting. Contrary to local grumbling, Rogers actually spent big for a trade target. It'll make for some heated discussion at the next bridge tournament. I have to think that Anthopolous has comparable resources at his disposal to improve the pitching staff, because the Jays look right now like all RH offense, no pitching. Donaldson-Bautista-Encarnacion-Tulowitzki-Martin is a Polite Murderers' Row.
 
 
 

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I wouldn't say I'm a Rockies fan... but living in Denver I'd like to see baseball do well here. If this deal brings them pitching, and flipping Reyes brings more pitching, then this could end up being a great set of moves for the Rockies. They've got Story and Gray in AAA... and a fairly good core to build around in the majors. 
 

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Tulo is stiIl a solid player, but he turns 31 this fall and that contract has future albatross written all over it. In huge capitol letters. The prospect haul trade possibility was always a pipe dream.
 
All things considered, I actually think the Rockies did ok there if they don't end up eating any more of that contract beyond this year. Sucks to see the Jays' lineup get better in the short term, but seeing that cheap ownership treat it like a completely crippling factor latter will more then make up for it on the back end. 
 

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Brutal trade for the Blue Jays.  It amazes me that the Blue Jays GM holds on to his job.
 
Both contracts are terrible, but Tulo's contract is for more years and money (around 50 million more).  Meanwhile, the Blue Jays give up a really good prospect in Hoffman.
 
The Rockies win this trade big time.  They pick up a young starter who has a high ceiling (Hoffman) while dumping Tulo's contract.  Sure, they have Reyes' contract to deal with, but it is more manageable.  I presume they could turn around and trade Reyes and money for a good prospect. 
 
What are the Blue Jays playing for anyway?  They aren't as good as the Yankees.  They are still competing for the second wild card, but they are one of several teams competing for that spot and this deal hurts the Blue Jays in the long run.  If they had to trade Hoffman, it makes more sense to keep Reyes (and save 50 million) while using Hoffman in a package for a SP.