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Media comments above seem to be greasing the wheels for a no move deadline unless I am reading it wrong
Eh, it's just like a fantasy football auction. Drive up the price on the guys put up early so you're the only one with $ & can call your shots later.

"We were just trying to drive prices up & don't really want to get players" isn't exactly a bulletproof PR strategy.
 

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With all of the outrage here can I ask exactly who did we REASONABLY think the Sox might get, that's now off the board. Anthony Rizzo, Marte and?
I wasn't really frustrated until I started reading some tea leaves and seeing the "Sale is our deadline acquisition" commentary start bubbling up. That feels like proactive spin in advance of getting no one.
 

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With all of the outrage here can I ask exactly who did we REASONABLY think the Sox might get, that's now off the board. Anthony Rizzo, Marte and?
It’s more that the LAD and MFY added more than I thought they would. That said, I can’t remember ever being satisfied with our moves on or immediately before the trade deadline.
 

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Then Bloom doesn't think there is a move that would get this team a WS championship because what they have now isn't enough
I wasn't really frustrated until I started reading some tea leaves and seeing the "Sale is our deadline acquisition" commentary start bubbling up. That feels like proactive spin in advance of getting no one.
Um.. Sale and tanner houck.

Again, the trade deadline is not over..
 

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I wasn't really frustrated until I started reading some tea leaves and seeing the "Sale is our deadline acquisition" commentary start bubbling up. That feels like proactive spin in advance of getting no one.
We hear that every year about any star player on any playoff contender that has missed a huge portion of the season and returning this time of the season.
 

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I wasn't really frustrated until I started reading some tea leaves and seeing the "Sale is our deadline acquisition" commentary start bubbling up. That feels like proactive spin in advance of getting no one.
It was clarified by others that Speier didn’t actually say that. He apparently was simply saying that the Sox are unlikely to deal their top prospects. He apparently said he expects there to be an acquisition or two.
 

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I guess I don’t follow the Dodgers closely enough, but I’m confused where all of the infielders are playing when Seager is back: Muncy, Lux, Seager, Turner x 2
 

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Tepera or Graveman would have been a nice fit. Danny Duffy isn’t spectacular but would be an upgrade over Richards.
Duffy is a 10/5 guy and I think would have declined a deal almost anywhere, judging from his quotes in the past. He grew up in LA and has Dodgers connections, that's why I think he said yes to them but I doubt he was an actual option for BOS.
 

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2004 worked out nicely.
That’s when the Sox made a deadline deal in which they sent away the big name star, the best prospect in the deal, and threw in money to boot. There was a fair amount of second-guessing IIRC.
 

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It’s more that the LAD and MFY added more than I thought they would. That said, I can’t remember ever being satisfied with our moves on or immediately before the trade deadline.
1) The Sox weren't going to touch the deal made for Turner and Scherzer.
2) Why the fuck are people so up in arms about the Dodgers?
3) Many of the players being discussed here for the Sox are still in play.
 

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I wasn't really frustrated until I started reading some tea leaves and seeing the "Sale is our deadline acquisition" commentary start bubbling up. That feels like proactive spin in advance of getting no one.
Everyone is still in posturing mode. There’s plenty of upgrades still available, and we’re still 18+ hours from the deadline. Breathe……….
 

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It's like a game of musical chairs ... and the chairs left for the Red Sox wobble and have duct tape keeping one of the legs together
 

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It's like a game of musical chairs ... and the chairs left for the Red Sox wobble and have duct tape keeping one of the legs together
All it has to do is play first and hit better than Dalbec, so it could be missing a leg and still work.
 

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I suspect Scherzer steered his way to LAD because they know Bauer’s contract will be voided and he will get just get that same money in an extension.
 

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It's pretty common for the Sox not to get a player many or even most of us want them to get. Most of those situations have turned out OK. Exhibit A is ARod. Exhibit B is Ellsbury.
 

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Such lack of faith in an organization that has won 4 World Series and which has assembled a team in first place. If they make a move I trust their judgment that they know what they’re doing.

This isn’t Lou Gorman and a bunch of good ol boy scouts deciding Jeff Bagwell isn’t going to be any good.
Amen
 

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That’s when the Sox made a deadline deal in which they sent away the big name star, the best prospect in the deal, and threw in money to boot. There was a fair amount of second-guessing IIRC.
A lot of people were disappointed Lowe was not traded for Clement.

Sean Berry loved the trade on the day of more than anyone I can recall.
 

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FWIW, my own view on this is that it is important to do something between now and the deadline. I just think it sends a message to the team that the front office believes they have a chance to win it. Even though many of these deadline acquisitions don’t amount to much in the end (Cliff Floyd, Dante Bichette, etc.) I think the message gives the team a shot in the arm heading into August.
I hope Bloom makes some move, even a small one.
 

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It would appear that Chaim is letting everybody else burn their resources. Wouldn’t be surprised to see him clean up some parts for nothing. I always respect the long play.
 

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FWIW, my own view on this is that it is important to do something between now and the deadline. I just think it sends a message to the team that the front office believes they have a chance to win it. Even though many of these deadline acquisitions don’t amount to much in the end (Cliff Floyd, Dante Bichette, etc.) I think the message gives the team a shot in the arm heading into August.
I hope Bloom makes some move, even a small one.
Eric Gagne just sprung to mind. I’ll console myself over any inaction by Bloom with the memory of his shockingly craptastic efforts.
 

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It would appear that Chaim is letting everybody else burn their resources. Wouldn’t be surprised to see him clean up some parts for nothing. I always respect the long play.
Seems like the clear strategy. Try to get an Aguilar type for next to nothing, which would be a real upgrade, while keeping the blue chip guys.
 

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After watching the Sox get bludgeoned again by Toronto and ERod's ERA going up to a Richardsian 5.60, maybe the concerns about starting pitching were valid after all.

Sale and Houck should be great replacements for those two, but then we also have Martin Perez to worry about, and he generally can only make it twice through a lineup.
 

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After watching the Sox get bludgeoned again by Toronto and ERod's ERA going up to a Richardsian 5.60, maybe the concerns about starting pitching were valid after all.

Sale and Houck should be great replacements for those two, but then we also have Martin Perez to worry about, and he generally can only make it twice through a lineup.
Perez is perfectly fine for a 5th starter.
 

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Seems like the clear strategy. Try to get an Aguilar type for next to nothing, which would be a real upgrade, while keeping the blue chip guys.
Yeah he really is the anti-Dombrowski. DD’s strategy, as I recall, was to identify his guys early and pull the trigger weeks or even months before the deadline when the market wasn’t as hot.
 

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Yeah he really is the anti-Dombrowski. DD’s strategy, as I recall, was to identify his guys early and pull the trigger weeks or even months before the deadline when the market wasn’t as hot.
Yes. And while it got us a WS we saw what it did to our farm System.

thats Why NY and other teams were able to do the trades they did today. Bloom is 1000000000% the anti-Dombrowski. Bloom is trying to build for long term success not short term.
Again. And as I said upthread. LAD is damn lucky they won the WS last year, because I think andrew friedman would have been fired if they blew another WS. Also. The Dodgers were forced to make this trade because of the Bauer shitshow. They needed a SP to replace him and they had to pay a price to do it.
 

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Sox don’t need a closer, they just need a good late inning guy. They don’t need an All Star bat (although who wouldn’t want one?), they just need a good player to replace a lousy one at first. They’ve kicked the tires on everyone, but this was always headed toward a lower level, quantity for mid-level quality deadline for us. We’re still on track for that.
 

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A lot of people were disappointed Lowe was not traded for Clement.

Sean Berry loved the trade on the day of more than anyone I can recall.
Is he even around anymore? 'Cause I'm supposed to outlive him and I was never clear what that meant precisely.
 

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Seems like the clear strategy. Try to get an Aguilar type for next to nothing, which would be a real upgrade, while keeping the blue chip guys.
Picking over the leavings is a perfect strategy for a team that doesn't need much, is in first place already, and doesn't have a huge number of top prospects to deal. Take the best first baseman that's still around at 3 tomorrow.

Also we ought to seriously consider just putting Houck and the other guy (I might be stoned) into the rotation.

So that's Sale, Eovaldi, House, Whitlock! (is other guy), and Pivetta.

Rodriguez, Richards, and whothefuck else can just fuck around in the bullpen to see who doesn't suck to much.

But again, stoned.
 

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What’s the story with Ian Kennedy? I expected him to be dealt by now but he would be a nice pen addition along with our 1B TBNL.