To me, Sawamura is the guy I don't want to see in high leverage situations. His ERA is 2.87 but FIP is 5.44. If I could get another high leverage arm to add to Barnes/Ottavino/Whitlock/Houck/Taylor, then I'd do it. By the way, Ottavino has looked a bit more shaky in his last two outings so getting another high end arm can never hurt.
Love to see the Sox trade for Kimbrel, Bard and a year's supply of Xanax for all of New England.
Yes? Outside of 1B the rest of the team we've been fielding is really damn good, considering the imminent Sale upgrade. Wouldn't you like to not give innings to Workman/Rios in the playoffs?
The object at the deadline is to add players to make the team better. If you can add to a strength to make it even stronger, you do it. If they can't acquire a starting pitcher that makes sense but could add someone like Kimbrel, that makes the team better. With so many quality arms in the pen(having Barnes/Kimbrel/Ottavino in the postseason is an embarrassment of riches) and a rotation with questions, you can go to the pen earlier in the game in the playoffs.
No, they trade away Abrams and they take on one of the worst contracts in baseball. The whole premise of this discussion is the Padres using a top prospect to get rid of Hosmer, but I recognize your habit of taking only as much context as you need to keep up your shtick.
And they’d be getting one of the most valuable assets in baseball. Did you freak out like this last week when they traded their best hitter for another team’s #10 ranked prospect? I didn’t bother to list the anonymous pitchers, but it would be guys in the #10-30 range, so maybe one of Groome, Ward…Winckowski, German for us and Thompson, Guarate and Elliott from the Padres.
One of those things is not like the others. I'm also guessing Ward has 0 value atm. He's going to need to be added to the 40 and he'll be recovering from TJ.
There's no schtick involved. You're saying they trade two low-level arms in a trade that get them three major leaguers and a trade chip to move along in the deal
But guys that far down the bullpen ladder aren't going to get any sort of meaningful innings in the playoffs. A regular rotation of Barnes, Taylor, Ottavino, Whitlock, Hernandez, and some Sawamura. with lots of off days in between. Barring injury of course, that's six guys within the range of solidly reliable to lights out. Not saying it can't be improved, but I don't think it's worth spending valuable resources for a guy like Kimbrel when it's such a strength already and we have at least one much greater need.
It would largely depend on the resources being moved. If it's Bobby Dalbec and Josh Winckowski, you make the deal all day. if it's Casas, you move along.
Do you really trust Hernandez? I dunno ....
I forget who said it but someone posted that they’d be very disappointed not to come away with an impact player given the wide variety that’s available this year. Can’t say I disagree.
I’m saying that’s the basic foundation for a 3-team trade of players who are all reported to be available, and to keep up your shtick you’re pretending you don’t know that one of those “three major leaguers” has one of the very worst contracts in baseball.
How dare you question the logic of this trade where the Red Sox give up very little and get a ton back?
Fortunately, neither does Chaim Bloom. This thread has certainly gotten entertaining, but most of these proposals don’t reflect anything close to the Sox’ priorities at the trade deadline.
How does anybody know what Bloom will do at the deadline? This is his first time being a buyer as someone who is running a big-market organization. We don't know one way or the other how he will operate.
Exactly, especially since TB already added an impact bat, you know the MFY will add someone, and it appears that the Jays are attempting to as well - if the Sox stand pat, or add some random role player piece while the other 3 teams get significant upgrades I will be pissed. Although admittedly, that worked out very well in 2004.
We can’t know anything about any of this. I agree. But as I will continue to argue, most of what I’ve read in this thread runs counter to both Bloom’s team-building actions to this point AND to the actions of the successful executives Bloom has worked for and with.
This is where I’m at. Add in Houck and you’ve got 7 relatively reliable arms to rotate through. Let’s upgrade first base and go from there.
Hell no!
That’s hilarious. It’s interesting that he’s “said to prefer the West Coast” and a flat no on the MFY yet Boston is still in the running. My money’s on the Giants but if he wants an extension with a perennial contender, they’re not exactly a great bet.
Certainly not. I'm assuming, if a pitcher is acquired, that when Sale returns, somebody likely gets dumped unless folks are on the IL, and that somebody may well be Richards.
If Richards shits himself tonight and Houck is impressive in tomorrow's start vs Toronto he might wind up in the rotation. I wish Houck had been able to get a few more starting opportunities before the deadline.
They'll def have to increase the bench. There will be no need to carry 5 starters so as you suggest at least one guy from the pitching staff gets bumped, maybe two depending if the scheduling of games allows extra days off. I believe the new extra inning format does not apply to the playoffs so there is no way you carry a 3 man bench,
If the Sox cannot get him, then hopefully it’s one of those NL teams. No way I want to lose out on him to TB, HOU or TOR.
I'm also one who doesn't think the Red Sox bullpen is that great...or reliable.
how quickly we forget the legend of Curtis Leskanic
Any #1 bumps the #5 into the bullpen, assuming a SP does not get traded back for the acquisition.
seems like from the above quotes Bloom is going after rotation help (Plus other positions of need) .. and yes I would love Mad Max in Boston
Berrios looks like he really gets knocked around the third time through the order, which is largely avoidable in the playoffs.
100%, I'm talking about the rest of the regular season. A lot of folks have him slated for the pen, I'm not so sure that's a done deal. That's why I wish he was able to make a few more starts before the deadline. I'm guessing maybe Chaim does too.
