Timelord Injury Watch

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My first reaction is: HELL YES.

My second reaction is: I hope he's not rushing back at the expense of his longterm health. We love you, Timelord, whether you come back this year or not.
 

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The only thing that can break the Kyrie Celtics Playoff Injury Curse is for the annual sacrificial lamb to somehow come back and swing a late-round series.

Gordon Hayward attempted this in the bubble, but he was not the Chosen One. He did not have the ability to roll back Time itself.
 

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My first reaction is: HELL YES.

My second reaction is: I hope he's not rushing back at the expense of his longterm health. We love you, Timelord, whether you come back this year or not.
One way to look at it to feel better and live in the moment is to make yourself believe is he’s going to get hurt again regardless. It’s freeing and let’s you just enjoy the ride.
 

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Partial menisectomy FTW
Would be interested in DRS or RadSox opining about the success rates for this kind of surgery, especially among athletes. You're taking out part of the meniscus, right? That doesn't seem optimal. How many high-level athletes have had this done and continued on with a successful career? Curious.
 

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Would be interested in DRS or RadSox opining about the success rates for this kind of surgery, especially among athletes. You're taking out part of the meniscus, right? That doesn't seem optimal. How many high-level athletes have had this done and continued on with a successful career? Curious.
It’s an extremely common procedure (including for professional athletes) and the success rate is almost entirely dependent on the specifics that we don’t know. Basically, it depends how much meniscus they took out and where they took it out from.

On one side of the spectrum, taking out most of the meniscus is very bad and has a high chance of leading to accelerated arthritis. Trimming a little piece probably not a big deal.

Definitely stoked to hear this news, though I do hope they didn’t take the quicker return at the expense of long term risk. Sometimes there isn’t much of a choice.
 
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Edit: Of course, if it were my knee and career, I might feel differently.
 

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It’s an extremely common procedure and the success rate is almost entirely dependent on the specifics that we don’t know. Basically, it depends how much meniscus they took out and where they took it out from.

On one side of the spectrum, taking out most of the meniscus is very bad and has a high chance of leading to accelerated arthritis. Trimming a little piece probably not a big deal.

Definitely stoked to hear this news, though I do hope they didn’t take the quicker return at the expense of long term risk.
They’ve got him under K another three years, so hard to imagine they’re cool with lighting that on fire so maybe he is back for a playoff round they may or may not even reach.
 

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They’ve got him under K another three years, so hard to imagine they’re cool with lighting that on fire so maybe he is back for a playoff round they may or may not even reach.
Under contract for another four years. Extension kicks in next year.
 

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I let out an audible “yes!” and fist-pumped the air at 630am PT when I read the report — my wife jumped awake and said “What?!?!”

“TimeLord is coming back Honey, TimeLord is coming back.”

I said “He’s on the Celtics.” after she said “what the hell does that mean.” Then she whacked me and sighed.
 

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Would be interested in DRS or RadSox opining about the success rates for this kind of surgery, especially among athletes. You're taking out part of the meniscus, right? That doesn't seem optimal. How many high-level athletes have had this done and continued on with a successful career? Curious.
In the short term/over the course of his career it probably won’t impact him at all. Statistically speaking it does make him more likely to develop arthritis down the road, but that would likely not be until well after his playing career is over if it happens at all.
 

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Timelord trying to show up early?? This season is, in fact, bizarro world.
I laughed.

I can't imagine they would rush him back in any way given the makeup of the team and his contract. Everyone will be back next year. If anything Rob would be the one trying to rush back (which is what you want from a player).

Wonderful news this morning from Woj, and LFG. Given the severity this is pretty good timing (if you have to have an injury) as it gives them a number of fairly low-pressure games to play and work things out without Rob before they start the playoffs. Hopefully they don't draw Brooklyn in the first round, but we hoped that anyway.
 

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I said “He’s on the Celtics.” after she said “what the hell does that mean.” Then she whacked me and sighed.
RG33ette Doesnt know wtf Time Lord is?
Hell he (and Smart) are Bakettes and Daughterettes favorite. (The both hate "the other williams" though....)

Opinion lowered RG33.
 

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I have a few friends with Asberger's Syndrome, and this type of humor (and sarcasm) are difficult for them to grasp because they typically take things at face value. Not saying that Crespo has Asberger's, but quite a lot of people do.
Asperger's is no longer a thing. Of course I only know that because I was once diagnosed with it.

edit: It was removed from the DSM 5. It wasn't replaced by, but was partially replaced by, social pragmatic communication disorder.
 

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The only thing that can break the Kyrie Celtics Playoff Injury Curse is for the annual sacrificial lamb to somehow come back and swing a late-round series.

Gordon Hayward attempted this in the bubble, but he was not the Chosen One. He did not have the ability to roll back Time itself.
Shades of Marcus coming back for game 5 against the Bucks in 2018? Within 30 seconds of entering, he was diving for a loose ball. I love it.
 

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Hopefully we make it through the first round and maybe get off to a good start in round 2 and keep giving him two more days to rest and then two more and see how long we can gov
 

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that's awesome news for the intermediate term

Hopefully no serious damage long term
 

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I let out an audible “yes!” and fist-pumped the air at 630am PT when I read the report — my wife jumped awake and said “What?!?!”

“TimeLord is coming back Honey, TimeLord is coming back.”

I said “He’s on the Celtics.” after she said “what the hell does that mean.” Then she whacked me and sighed.
You woke up the 'Ette and just got a whack out of it? The Dinnerette would have given me the shiv.
 

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RG33ette Doesnt know wtf Time Lord is?
Hell he (and Smart) are Bakettes and Daughterettes favorite. (The both hate "the other williams" though....)

Opinion lowered RG33.
She grew up on an island 9000 miles from Boston and never watched an American sport until forced to at age 17.

This is a girl who pointed to a poster and said “Oh, I know him, he was my friend, why is he on a poster?” about a poster with John Cena in it like 7-8 years ago. She went to the same boarding school apparently and knew him from the wrestling team.

She thinks sports are “dumb” and my child-like enthusiasm for them even dumber. Lol
 

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She grew up on an island 9000 miles from Boston and never watched an American sport until forced to at age 17.

This is a girl who pointed to a poster and said “Oh, I know him, he was my friend, why is he on a poster?” about a poster with John Cena in it like 7-8 years ago. She went to the same boarding school apparently and knew him from the wrestling team.

She thinks sports are “dumb” and my child-like enthusiasm for them even dumber. Lol
I remember taking my German girlfriend to a Giants game in SF, and on the way there, we had a quick review of the rules where she said with great trepidation: “So, one man throws the ball….. and the other tries to hit it with the club?”

I swear I’ve never looked at baseball quite the same way since.
 

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Not sure I’m getting your sarcasm.

My point was she didn’t grow up in the States and is oblivious to American pop culture/sports.
It's a joke about John Cena doing the "you can't see me" face wave when he was with the WWE.
 

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While I almost always agree with DRS, I would be quite hesitant to say Rob is in the clear from developing arthritis for the rest of his career.

I see a lot of high level athletes with moderate to severe osteoarthritis less than 5 years after partial meniscectomy. Sometimes it starts within a year or two.

This is highly variable and the cause of the arthritis isn't always the partial meniscectomy itself (it might have developed due to a previous injury, regardless if part of the meniscus is surgically removed or not). But the NBA and NFL is littered with players in their 20s and 30s with partial meniscectomies and progressive arthritis, sometimes severe.

In this study of NFL combine players, 27% of players with partial meniscectomies already had developed arthritis (average age of the sample 22.8).

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5435150/

Kemba Walker is a recent example, multiple scopes for partial meniscectomies and now severe osteoarthritis at age 31. Again, this is not automatically the outcome for Rob of course, but personally I wouldn't be confident that we know any potential arthritis will be confined his post-career life.
 

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I would assume physical rehab. Strength/conditioning, flexibility, and all things that come with rehabbing a knee.
Two workouts in one day.

Edit: I apologize if you meant which activities specifically.
Thanks for the replies. I'm just trying to get a sense of what he'll be doing starting tomorrow. I think it's exciting that he can do anything using his leg, including walking, so soon after surgery. And to do it twice in one day!
 

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From the Woj podcast.

"He had the surgery yesterday on that meniscus, and it was really the best-case scenario for Boston that it was not a full tear, it was essentially an injury that is called clipping the meniscus as opposed to doing a repair," Wojnarowski said. "The team is saying four-to-six weeks, my sense is that’s on the conservative side, that there’s real optimism it’s closer to four weeks – maybe even a little less. … The possibility that it’s even less than four weeks is real."
https://www.audacy.com/weei/sports/celtics/woj-real-chance-robert-williams-returns-sooner-than-planned