So discussion of our third string quarterback doesn't pollute other threads, I thought it made some sense to have a Tebow-centric thread.
After watching the first game, I remain convinced that:
1.) Tebow isn't going to be an effective drop back passer for years if ever
2.) Tebow can do some nifty things on read option plays, draw plays and the like.
3.) The Pats think there's a real benefit to having a read-option QB, otherwise they wouldn't have installed all that read-option plays they ran Friday
4.) He's making the team because BB was aware of 1, 2, and 3 when he signed Tebow and dedicated practice and installation time to the Tebow plays.
5.) Dobson and Tompkins look like great receivers for Tebow because of their physicality in both catching the ball and blocking downfield.
I'll also start my Tebow tracker to chart any Tebow-related Jimmy Fund bets people put up.
Regular Season Offensive Snaps: 0 ($25 by SD to Jimmy Fund if he hits 75, $25 by SN if he doesn't)
Non blowout regular season snaps where Tebow Replaces a Healthy Brady excluding blowouts including 2 point conversions (hereinafter "Tebow Electrifies Brady Only Watches" snaps or "T.E.B.O.W." snaps) : 0 ($25 by SD to Jimmy Fund if he hits 10, $25 by TheoShmeo if he doesn't)
After watching the first game, I remain convinced that:
1.) Tebow isn't going to be an effective drop back passer for years if ever
2.) Tebow can do some nifty things on read option plays, draw plays and the like.
3.) The Pats think there's a real benefit to having a read-option QB, otherwise they wouldn't have installed all that read-option plays they ran Friday
4.) He's making the team because BB was aware of 1, 2, and 3 when he signed Tebow and dedicated practice and installation time to the Tebow plays.
5.) Dobson and Tompkins look like great receivers for Tebow because of their physicality in both catching the ball and blocking downfield.
I'll also start my Tebow tracker to chart any Tebow-related Jimmy Fund bets people put up.
Regular Season Offensive Snaps: 0 ($25 by SD to Jimmy Fund if he hits 75, $25 by SN if he doesn't)
Non blowout regular season snaps where Tebow Replaces a Healthy Brady excluding blowouts including 2 point conversions (hereinafter "Tebow Electrifies Brady Only Watches" snaps or "T.E.B.O.W." snaps) : 0 ($25 by SD to Jimmy Fund if he hits 10, $25 by TheoShmeo if he doesn't)
Shelterdog said:
I smell a Jimmy Fund bet. $25 (or 372 internet points) that Tebow plays 75 or more offensive snaps this season (if you want we can pro rate it and exclude any end of season games where they bench Brady and aren't trying to win).
As an aside the Tebow stuff is interesting, and it's not because of Tebow--it would be interesting if they had Vince Young or Patrick White or any other spread option QB as their third QB and were reportedly running a bunch of pistol and option plays. It's also a discussion you can have in the abstract, where the question "how good is Thompkins" is going to get a lot better once we actually see the guy play.
TheoShmeo said:Shelterdog, I'm not sure why you are making the leap that Tebow will be taking snaps away from Tom based on practice patterns (if you are). Alternative explanations for Tebow's usage in early August could be (a) BB wants to evaluate him, (b) BB is attempting to inject an element of doubt into the minds of opposing coaches (and I view this as the least likely of the four I'm listing), (c) BB wants to give his defense the chance to play agaisnt a read option/running QB given the trends in the NFL and (d) BB wants to get Tebow ready in case Brady gets hurt (projectile vomit).
BB has shown that he's loathe to take Brady out of games and indeed Tom is still in there at the end of blow outs regularly (much to my chagrin, for that matter). And there's the simple fact that Tom is the QB that he is and is not particularly deficient around the goal line or anywhere else.
I think the better bet would be tied to how many snaps Tebow takes away from a healthy Brady over the course of the season. I'd bet $25 to the Jimmy Fund that the number will be less than 10.
Super Nomario said:Do I win if Tebow gets cut? For the record, Tebow had 72 offensive snaps last year, so 75 seems like the right cut-off. The risk is if Brady gets hurt, in which case I think we would see some Tebow packages, but since the money goes to the JF anyway it's a good bet.
I think if you have a guy like Tebow (or Young, or White), you'd be crazy not to at least try the read option in practice. It doesn't sound like it's been a significant chunk of what they're doing. Tebow's in camp; maybe that's interesting in and of itself, but I don't see anything the Pats are doing that's very surprising given that Tebow's in camp in the first place.
BTW, minor point, but I haven't read anything about the Pats / Tebow practicing the pistol, just the read option.