The Super Bowl Thread

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The ratings are going to be fine. It's hard to travel to the Super Bowl, get lodgings, and tickets. It's also extremely expensive. It's not costly at all to turn on the TV to watch the game.
Plus, no one wants to go to Houston
 

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The ratings are going to be fine. It's hard to travel to the Super Bowl, get lodgings, and tickets. It's also extremely expensive. It's not costly at all to turn on the TV to watch the game.
True but if you order the fish but get the steak instead you'll likely not eat the steak. I'm expecting lower than usual ratings. And if the Pats get ahead early, huge tune out.
 

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True but if you order the fish but get the steak instead you'll likely not eat the steak. I'm expecting lower than usual ratings. And if the Pats get ahead early, huge tune out.
Nope. This isn't dinner. It's the super bowl. If people were expecting football and it was baseketball, maybe the ratings would be poor and your analogy would hold up. Otherwise, the Super Bowl is an event that is consistently watched by gobs of people no matter who is playing.
 

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The ratings are going to be fine. It's hard to travel to the Super Bowl, get lodgings, and tickets. It's also extremely expensive. It's not costly at all to turn on the TV to watch the game.
Yeah, haven't the Patriots historically been great for playoff ratings? People love to rally around a common enemy, and this SB is set in the context of DFG. The flip side of wanting to avoid seeing the Patriots win again is wanting to see them lose.
 

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Yes, djbayko. People are losing their minds. IT'S THE SUPER BOWL. The ratings are always good. The matchup doesn't matter, it's nearly a national holiday. And Atlanta v. the Pats is an awesome matchup.
 

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Nope. This isn't dinner. It's the super bowl. If people were expecting football and it was baseketball, maybe the ratings would be poor and your analogy would hold up. Otherwise, the Super Bowl is an event that is consistently watched by gobs of people no matter who is playing.
Also, steak is better than fish so you'd be chuffed in that situation.
 

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Yeah, haven't the Patriots historically been great for playoff ratings? People love to rally around a common enemy, and this SB is set in the context of DFG. The flip side of wanting to avoid seeing the Patriots win again is wanting to see them lose.
True, and it helped that all those games were close.
My point is the gen pop wanted the Cowboys and/or Rodgers and I think some Pats fatigue has set in. Not having the Cowboys has hurt the gate. SB ratings are pretty bullet proof but if Dallas was there they would have been higher.
 

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Okay, but I'd think SB ratings are always going to sustain well in a close game and tail off in a blowout. I'm not sure how that's relevant, unless you think a blowout in this game is a lock.
 
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True, and it helped that all those games were close.
My point is the gen pop wanted the Cowboys and/or Rodgers and I think some Pats fatigue has set in. Not having the Cowboys has hurt the gate. SB ratings are pretty bullet proof but if Dallas was there they would have been higher.
Not having the Cowboys hurt the gate because teh game is in Texas.
 

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True but if you order the fish but get the steak instead you'll likely not eat the steak. I'm expecting lower than usual ratings. And if the Pats get ahead early, huge tune out.
I think this particular matchup will likely keep people around a bit longer, too. With these offenses, any one defensive stop could be a 14 point swing, and it would have to be really late in the game with a large deficit for either team to truly feel "out of it".

Two high quality, disciplined teams, that appear to match up really well against each other? This should be an awesome game.
 

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George and Barbara Bush will be doing the coin flip.
George went to Andover, Yale, and had a house in Maine.

It's in the bag.

Edit: actually a decent prop bet would be whether an announcer notes that Bill and George both graduated from Andover.
 

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I can't imagine why not. Houston traffic makes any other city, Boston included look like a walk in the park. I can only imagine what it's gonna be like with 80,000 yahoos who don't know where the fuck they are going added into the mix.
Houston doesn't quite make the US Top 10 in traffic. Nearly a tie with Boston according to Tom Tom, but last year (SF/San Jose area to get to Santa Clara) was significantly worse.

http://www.tomtom.com/en_gb/trafficindex/city/HOU

http://www.tomtom.com/en_gb/trafficindex/list
 

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If they can't figure out how to have the Bushes ride out to the 50-yard line going 90 in a Cigarette Boat I'll be disappointed.
 

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Don't know if I'm too late but the Maddon simulator has the Pats winning 27-24. Last time the Pats were in the Super Bowl Maddon predicted a 28-24 Pats win. This is super scientific.
 

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Demand for hotel rooms are down. Ticket prices have dropped. I'm expecting lower than usual ratings. America wanted to see the Cowboys or Rodgers. They got neither. The Falcons aren't a public team and I think many will stay away or tune out to avoid watching the Pats win again.
High scoring game will keep eyes on the television. This is not going to be a 10-7 snooze fest that appeals to just the diehards.
 

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I am glad the hotel room bookings are down and the ticket prices are low.

Atlanta to Houston is a cheap flight and a do-able drive. I was/am worried that this is going to be a defacto home game for the dirty birds. So I'll take this as a good sign for crowd noise issues.
 
I feel like the Patriots are winning the distractions game at the moment. What have they had to face, some idle DFG-related Goodell chatter and some associations with Trump? The Falcons have a star running back who wants a pay rise, a missing offensive playbook, a divisive ex-QB writing an open letter to the city of Atlanta, and - most importantly - a coordinator looking to recruit a coaching staff to San Francisco (and a head coach trying to recruit replacements and/or keep some of said staff from defecting). None of these are necessarily big deals, but I'm definitely a touch more pessimistic than I was this time last week.

Or maybe that's just residual pessimism from hanging out too much in V&N?
 

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Maybe defenses don't put linebackers on the widest receiver anymore, even if he's just a RB split wide. I bet if they put Dion Lewis out there and got a LB covering him, Brady would find a way to work that matchup.
Not an RB, but...

 

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http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18599645/barnwell-super-bowl-li-preview-new-england-patriots-atlanta-falcons

Barnwell picks the Pats, 34-17. His logic boils down to the fact that the Pats have really only lost in the playoffs when opposing defenses get to Tom regularly, and he doesn't see the Falcons being able to do that. There's more to it, and the column has much more meat than most others, but that's essentially it. I agree with his point and I remain with the view that the Falcons have to do that to win. That's a bit of an overstatement, of course, in that Pats turnovers could tilt the game, even without intense pressure on Tom. But with that caveat, I think Barnwell is right and makes a good case for his proposition.
 

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http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18599645/barnwell-super-bowl-li-preview-new-england-patriots-atlanta-falcons

Barnwell picks the Pats, 34-17. His logic boils down to the fact that the Pats have really only lost in the playoffs when opposing defenses get to Tom regularly, and he doesn't see the Falcons being able to do that. There's more to it, and the column has much more meat than most others, but that's essentially it. I agree with his point and I remain with the view that the Falcons have to do that to win. That's a bit of an overstatement, of course, in that Pats turnovers could tilt the game, even without intense pressure on Tom. But with that caveat, I think Barnwell is right and makes a good case for his proposition.
I will eat a log of Rocco Graziosa's turd if the Pats hold the Falcons under 20 points. Just ain't happening.
 

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I had a dream last night that the Pats were winning 18-3 with the Falcons driving right before halftime.

And I've been told that if you can dream it...you can do it! Which I assume also works for other people, so the Pats can do it!
 

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What's the most likely way to hit 18? TD7+TD8+FG?
It kind of depends on the other score, doesn't it? At 18-3, there's no reason for anyone to be going for 2 in that game. It looks like a PIT-like 6 field goals to me. But we're analyzing someone else's dream score...
 

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"Insider Buzz" says McCourty may move to CB to cover Muhammad Sanu with Harmon at safety. Which makes no sense to me. But take it with salt.
 

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For those who can't see this, Bleacher Report is reporting that McCourty may shift to CB for the Super Bowl.

I was talking about this with my brother earlier this week and we both expected the Pats to have 5+ DBs on the field for most snaps: Butler, Ryan, Chung, McCourty, Harmon. Whatever you call McCourty in that setup couldn't this just mean he'll be matched up with a lot of receivers?
 

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What's the most likely way to hit 18? TD7+TD8+FG?
Most conventional way would be a TD, 3 FG and a safety. But seems kind of unlikely you would get that particular combo in the 1st half of this game.

Pats going for 2 on every score against a terrible red zone D would be an interesting gamble to put extra pressure on both sides of the ball for ATL.