The Plan For the #1, er, #3 Overall Pick?
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While Jackson would have made a decent consolation prize if the Cs hadn't won the lottery, the one big question about him is that a lot of his success in college came from playing the small ball 4 at Kansas. However, he's only 205 pounds (comparatively, JB was 225 last year) so he's not going to be able to guard NBA 4s.
While he's definitely going to be in the NBA for a long time due to his ability to defend 1-3, there are more ?s about him than Fultz in terms of him becoming a multi-year All-Star.
While he's definitely going to be in the NBA for a long time due to his ability to defend 1-3, there are more ?s about him than Fultz in terms of him becoming a multi-year All-Star.
Last year it was that the Sixers were considering Ingram and the Lakers thinking Marquese Chris at #2.
Fultz will be the #1 pick. In a world where the Cs genuinely like Jackson the most, they trade down with Philly, get the guy they wanted anyway, plus whatever else they can extract.
Fultz will be the #1 pick. In a world where the Cs genuinely like Jackson the most, they trade down with Philly, get the guy they wanted anyway, plus whatever else they can extract.
Regardless of who is picked first you nailed it in that nbadraft.net is far and away the worst. I posted something on this each of the past two years where their "analysts" made several obvious and blatant errors. It isn't surprising that they would characterize one of Jackson's strengths as his length/wingspan......that site is beyond awful.
after that, it was as good as anyone's guess though. No one here knew who the C's were taking. Not to defend that site, but last year was hard to predict.
It was waiting for him in the parking lot when he went back to his high school alma mater (DeMatha) for a workout, but i don't think it involved the Lakers.
Interesting read about Brad Stevens phone call with Fultz's high school counselor.
https://www.boston.com/sports/boston-celtics/2017/06/14/brad-stevens-even-checked-in-with-markelle-fultzs-high-school-counselor
https://www.boston.com/sports/boston-celtics/2017/06/14/brad-stevens-even-checked-in-with-markelle-fultzs-high-school-counselor
Today's WaPo: "NBA draft rumors: Celtics pondering Josh Jackson at No. 1..."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2017/06/16/nba-draft-rumors-celtics-pondering-josh-jackson-at-no-1-lakers-could-trade-back/?utm_term=.1a8bdc8c649f
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2017/06/16/nba-draft-rumors-celtics-pondering-josh-jackson-at-no-1-lakers-could-trade-back/?utm_term=.1a8bdc8c649f
Same rumor as yesterday--anonymous GM.
We're in the "Mitch Trubinsky could go #1 in NFL draft area" right now.
Sean CunninghamVerified account @SeanCunningham 3h3 hours ago
Source: Kansas star Josh Jackson will hold private workout in Sacramento with the Sixers today. Will meet with Celtics in Boston days later
So Josh Jackson will meet with the Celtics after all.
Source: Kansas star Josh Jackson will hold private workout in Sacramento with the Sixers today. Will meet with Celtics in Boston days later
So Josh Jackson will meet with the Celtics after all.
Can anyone tell me a recent case of a top-tier talent playing for a college team that was shitty (talent and record-wise), coming to the NBA, and having a successful career? It's something that worries me and I know I am dwelling too much on this point. I know not everyone can be Larry Bird, but still....
This is true. 'Tis the season for rampant anonymously sourced reports. That said, they're moving the needle with at least some folks...
Obviously Fultz is still the heavy favorite.
Um, what?
Marc Stein
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League sources tell @ZachLowe_NBA and me that the Sixers and Celtics are in serious talks on a trade involving the No. 1 overall pick.
Marc Stein
@ESPNSteinLineLeague sources tell @ZachLowe_NBA and me that the Sixers and Celtics are in serious talks on a trade involving the No. 1 overall pick.
Zach LoweVerified account @ZachLowe_NBA 3m3 minutes ago
Zach Lowe Retweeted Marc Stein
In current parameters, BOS would receive several picks and no players, sources say. Have to think No. 3 would be involved.
Zach Lowe Retweeted Marc Stein
In current parameters, BOS would receive several picks and no players, sources say. Have to think No. 3 would be involved.
Adrian WojnarowskiVerified account @WojVerticalNBA 58s58 seconds ago
Sources: Philadelphia is waiting on medical information on Markelle Fultz, but deep into talks on acquiring Boston's No. 1 overall pick.
Sources: Philadelphia is waiting on medical information on Markelle Fultz, but deep into talks on acquiring Boston's No. 1 overall pick.
Great, more depth!
Edit: unless he's try to milk more from Magic, which I still don't like.
The only thing I can think is that they are about to pull of a blockbuster trade and it requires more picks. Because trading down to acquire future picks makes no sense.
Adrian WojnarowskiVerified account @WojVerticalNBA 4m4 minutes ago
Adrian Wojnarowski Retweeted Adrian Wojnarowski
Boston would acquire Sixers No. 3 overall pick in 2017 and package to include future first from Sixers, sources say.
Adrian WojnarowskiVerified account @WojVerticalNBA 2m2 minutes ago
Adrian Wojnarowski Retweeted Adrian Wojnarowski
Deal talks are far enough along that Fultz could be on his way to Philadelphia for a meeting Saturday, sources say.
Adrian Wojnarowski Retweeted Adrian Wojnarowski
Boston would acquire Sixers No. 3 overall pick in 2017 and package to include future first from Sixers, sources say.
Adrian WojnarowskiVerified account @WojVerticalNBA 2m2 minutes ago
Adrian Wojnarowski Retweeted Adrian Wojnarowski
Deal talks are far enough along that Fultz could be on his way to Philadelphia for a meeting Saturday, sources say.
FYI, here are the Sixers current & future picks they have to play with:
2017
2017
- 1st round pick – Kings (swapped the 76ers 5th overall pick for Sacramento’s 3rd overall pick)
- 2nd round pick – Knicks (36th overall)
- 2nd round pick – Mavs (39th)
- 2nd round pick – Heat (46th)
- 2nd round pick – Hawks (50th)
- 1st round pick – 76ers
- 1st round pick – Lakers (unprotected)
- 2nd round pick – 76ers
- 2nd round pick – Nets or Cavs (whichever is better)
- 2nd round pick – Clippers or Knicks (whichever is better)
- 1st round pick – 76ers
- 1st round pick – Kings (unprotected)
- 2nd round pick – 76ers
- 2nd round pick – Bucks or Kings (whichever is better)
- 2nd round pick – Knicks
We don't know how Danny evaluates the lottery candidates. If he thinks he can get someone he wants at 3, then I guess...in Danny we trust?
I'd like to think he understands the quarter vs. nickel argument.
Hmm. I would really prefer a player but if this involves sending Philly's picks for a bigger deal for a "can't-miss" player, I wouldn't be opposed to this.
I wonder if the Sixers would let us choose between the 1st they have from the Lakers next year and their own 1st next year depending on what's lower?
I wonder if the Sixers would let us choose between the 1st they have from the Lakers next year and their own 1st next year depending on what's lower?
Ugh, I mean, I guess if you can get the #3, and next years #1 and Lakers #1, I'd consider it. Have 3 top 5 picks next year... But please no
Boy would this be fucking dumb. Might as well trade IT too if we're going all-in on MOAR PICKS.
I'd be ok with it if it was for a package of picks that Danny would turn around for a superstar, but essentially trading Fultz for the #3 and a future first? Blech.
If this isn't Danny moving toward a blockbuster, is this Danny going all in on IT?
If this isn't Danny moving toward a blockbuster, is this Danny going all in on IT?
This is stupid. If they're flipping picks for players, who would be available that would put them at the same level as Cleveland and Golden State?
Ainge has hit on some picks later in the draft, but he also tried to trade 4 #1s for Justice Winslow. This feels more like the latter.
Ainge has hit on some picks later in the draft, but he also tried to trade 4 #1s for Justice Winslow. This feels more like the latter.
He's a fine drafter but not nearly good enough imo to trust that his favorite guy is the right guy, particularly in the event that it's not the top guy. Who knows, I'll eat my previous words if this leads to a Davis level acquisition but if he isn't getting an unheard of boatload in this deal then I don't really see the point. Also I don't want fucking Bill Simmons to be proven right about anything.
Nothing I'd want. Lakers and Kings unprotected picks look better, but they're adding potential stars this draft as well.
I've said all along to not overthink this and just take Fultz. It's the no-brainer move to make. Passing on him and him becoming a star would be a kick in the balls.
Jonathan GivonyVerified account @DraftExpress 10m10 minutes ago
Big downgrade for me from the #1 pick to #3. Was told Ainge looking for a "Brooklyn type fleece" to get deal done. Let's see if that happens
Big downgrade for me from the #1 pick to #3. Was told Ainge looking for a "Brooklyn type fleece" to get deal done. Let's see if that happens