The Celtics Offseason

[OurF'ingCity]

This is on Jaylen from Jay King's prediction piece in today's Athletic:



King also speculates that Boston will move on from Brogdon and may pursue a deal for another starting quality PF/big assuming they can make it fit cap-wise.

This sums up my thoughts pretty well. Run it back with Brown for a year with the hope that Tatum takes another step forward, the coaching improves, and Brown addresses to at least some degree his handle issues. Those things alone might be enough to win them a title, even if there is some shuffling of the remaining players (e.g. trading Brogdon, Smart, or maybe even White or RWill if the right opportunity presents itself).

Then if they still can't get over the hump you have to more seriously think about breaking up the Js, but unless Brown suffers a catastrophic injury (in which case the Celtics are fucked regardless) he should still have tons of trade value in the 2024 offseason. There just seems to be very little risk in extending Brown on the supermax now and then figuring things out from there.

 

[DeJesus Built My Hotrod]

This sums up my thoughts pretty well. Run it back with Brown for a year with the hope that Tatum takes another step forward, the coaching improves, and Brown addresses to at least some degree his handle issues. Those things alone might be enough to win them a title, even if there is some shuffling of the remaining players (e.g. trading Brogdon, Smart, or maybe even White or RWill if the right opportunity presents itself).

Then if they still can't get over the hump you have to more seriously think about breaking up the Js, but unless Brown suffers a catastrophic injury (in which case the Celtics are fucked regardless) he should still have tons of trade value in the 2024 offseason. There just seems to be very little risk in extending Brown on the supermax now and then figuring things out from there.

People are understandably focused on Beal but my guess is King is on to something in terms of the team focusing on another big. Skilled size is a need given the potential playoff matchups and adding here feels like it balances out the rotation.

That said, if they get into the Beal sweepstakes all bets are off. I just can't see a player like Beal playing for a Stevens team.

 

[OurF'ingCity]

People are understandably focused on Beal but my guess is King is on to something in terms of the team focusing on another big. Skilled size is a need given the potential playoff matchups and adding here feels like it balances out the rotation.

That said, if they get into the Beal sweepstakes all bets are off. I just can't see a player like Beal playing for a Stevens team.

There is no way they could have Beal AND Brown without absolutely gutting the rest of the team, right? And there's no way I'd want Beal over Brown - hopefully Stevens stays far away from even considering that.

 

[PedroKsBambino]

That was an interesting piece----I have been advocating for a third big who is young as the solution to the same problem King focuses on; I actually think he may be right that given where are assets our, trying to add a starter is the better approach. Whether we have the chips to do so, that I'm not all that sure of.

I don't see Beal here at this point, at least not in a scenario where Jaylen stays (which I both want and expect).

I'd personally move Brogdon if it is part of adding the big, or adding a better passing PG (not sure I can name the healthy option realistically available, though)....otherwise, would hurt to move him.

 

[DeJesus Built My Hotrod]

That was an interesting piece----I have been advocating for a third big who is young as the solution to the same problem King focuses on; I actually think he may be right that given where are assets our, trying to add a starter is the better approach. Whether we have the chips to do so, that I'm not all that sure of.

I don't see Beal here at this point, at least not in a scenario where Jaylen stays (which I both want and expect).

I'd personally move Brogdon if it is part of adding the big, or adding a better passing PG (not sure I can name the healthy option realistically available, though)....otherwise, would hurt to move him.

A Markkannen or Bojan for Brogdon type trade seems like the sort that is doable given all the other parameters. But all of this hinges on what Jaylen wants of course.

 

[PedroKsBambino]

A Markkannen or Bojan for Brogdon type trade seems like the sort that is doable given all the other parameters. But all of this hinges on what Jaylen wants of course.

I have to think Markkannen is worth a good bit more; would you rather have Bojan than Brogdon? I'm not sure, though I guess I get the case for it. Also makes sense for Detroit, who needs some secondary ballhandling.

 

[OurF'ingCity]

That was an interesting piece----I have been advocating for a third big who is young as the solution to the same problem King focuses on; I actually think he may be right that given where are assets our, trying to add a starter is the better approach. Whether we have the chips to do so, that I'm not all that sure of.

I don't see Beal here at this point, at least not in a scenario where Jaylen stays (which I both want and expect).

I'd personally move Brogdon if it is part of adding the big, or adding a better passing PG (not sure I can name the healthy option realistically available, though)....otherwise, would hurt to move him.

Re: better passing PG - Fred VanVleet sign-and-trade? I haven't thought a ton about his fit but theoretically if FVV tells the Raptors he's not going to re-sign with them but wants to go to a contender maybe there is a deal to be had there, as Toronto would at least be getting something back for that salary slot and then they could flip Brogdon in the offseason or at the deadline if necessary.

 

[Lazy vs Crazy]

There is no way they could have Beal AND Brown without absolutely gutting the rest of the team, right? And there's no way I'd want Beal over Brown - hopefully Stevens stays far away from even considering that.

Yes, Brown was a better player this year than Beal has ever been, and Brown is on the upswing of his career while Beal is in the decline phase. I think I have made this comparison before but Beal is More Expensive CJ McCollum and nothing more.

 

[DeJesus Built My Hotrod]

I have to think Markkannen is worth a good bit more; would you rather have Bojan than Brogdon? I'm not sure, though I guess I get the case for it. Also makes sense for Detroit, who needs some secondary ballhandling.

Definitely agree on Lauri's cost. Maybe Janos can help out here.

As far as Bogdanovic vs Malcolm, both are flawed but good players. After this season I think Bojan is a better fit but I am a biased this way. I suspect most here would not make that swap and, more importantly, the Cs may want more defense than Bojan offers (though I think he is better than some give him credit for defensively).

 

[benhogan]

I'm not sure why King is in a rush to deal the 6th man of the year for similar money players (Lauri isn't happening).
Just kick the can down the road, run it back with the TOP7 with our new Coaching staff. The JAYs are still improving. Try to get something useful (like 4/5 depth) for Grant/Pritchard.

 

[ManicCompression]

I'm not sure how much he'd help in the playoffs, but I'm curious about whether Charlotte would give up Nick Richards in a trade since Mark Williams emerged for them at the end of the year. He's just signed an extension for cheap money and would be a nice third big to add to the mix here to keep the miles off TL.

 

[OurF'ingCity]

I'm not sure why King is in a rush to deal the 6th man of the year for similar money players (Lauri isn't happening).
Just kick the can down the road, run it back with the TOP7 with our new Coaching staff. The JAYs are still improving. Try to get something useful (like 4/5 depth) for Grant/Pritchard.

I think it's just a question of resource allocation - Brogdon provides lots of scoring, but he's not a good passer and not a good defender, two things that take on added importance in the playoffs. He's also injury-prone and will be a year older. So in theory the idea of trading, in effect, some of Brogdon's scoring for better defense and facilitation by someone else (or more rebounding if they go big, or whatever) is not crazy. It's all just a question of whether there is a trade out there that makes sense.

Agree that the Cs certainly shouldn't be pushing him out the door or feel like they need to get rid of him, but I don't think anyone is arguing that.

 

[BigMike]

I'm not sure how much he'd help in the playoffs, but I'm curious about whether Charlotte would give up Nick Richards in a trade since Mark Williams emerged for them at the end of the year. He's just signed an extension for cheap money and would be a nice third big to add to the mix here to keep the miles off TL.

I am sure if you are willing to give up legitimate value he is available. Are you willing to give up value to get him

 

[ManicCompression]

I am sure if you are willing to give up legitimate value he is available. Are you willing to give up value to get him

I'd give up the 35 pick for him this year. That seems like value for a rebuilding team.

 

[BigMike]

I'd give up the 35 pick for him this year. That seems like value for a rebuilding team.

Value might be fair, but Hornets already have 34, 39, 41. So they probably wouldn't want a 4th second rounder

 

[nighthob]

Then if they still can't get over the hump you have to more seriously think about breaking up the Js, but unless Brown suffers a catastrophic injury (in which case the Celtics are fucked regardless) he should still have tons of trade value in the 2024 offseason.

Jaylen Brown on a five year deal, regardless of the amount, is one of the most valuable trade chits in the NBA. So if they decide to reconfigure the squad next summer they'll have a huge and robust market.

 

[Imbricus]

I know this is "crazy trade proposal" season (beat writers are bored), but I saw one that I thought would be interesting for the Celtics anyway.

Celtics (trade)
Malcolm Brogdon
Danilo Gallinari

Grizzlies (trade)
Steve Adams
Luke Kennard

Not sure if Memphis would do that though.

 

[lovegtm]

I know this is "crazy trade proposal" season (beat writers are bored), but I saw one that I thought would be interesting for the Celtics anyway.

Celtics (trade)
Malcolm Brogdon
Danilo Gallinari

Grizzlies (trade)
Steve Adams
Luke Kennard

Not sure if Memphis would do that though.

Seems pretty favorable for the Celtics. Wild that Adams is still only 29; that shocked me.

 

[BigMike]

I know this is "crazy trade proposal" season (beat writers are bored), but I saw one that I thought would be interesting for the Celtics anyway.

Celtics (trade)
Malcolm Brogdon
Danilo Gallinari

Grizzlies (trade)
Steve Adams
Luke Kennard

Not sure if Memphis would do that though.

What is the value statement here for Memphis. I guess it is a they need another PG if Ja is suspended long term? They do have Jones whose been incredible, but have no depth behind him. On the other hand Adams is the only thing resembling a big they have on the roster. Would they then play Santi Aidama 35 min a night at C?

And I don't see where Galinari fits on the Memphis roster in anyway

 

[PedroKsBambino]

I don't think Memphis would do that, Adams is also a big culture guy there. I do think there's a basketball argument for adding another scorer and betting on their own younger bigs, especially with uncertainty around Morant. Memphis really was short on creation when Morant was out, and that's why they might look at a concept of "big for creator"

That said, feels more likely to me they'd bite on PP for Aldama than Brogdon/Adams....

 

[the moops]

What is the value statement here for Memphis. I guess it is a they need another PG if Ja is suspended long term? They do have Jones whose been incredible, but have no depth behind him. On the other hand Adams is the only thing resembling a big they have on the roster. Would they then play Santi Aidama 35 min a night at C?

And I don't see where Galinari fits on the Memphis roster in anyway

MEM played a lot of minutes with JJJ and Tillman as their two bigs. And JJJ can play center against most teams. They could also grab one of the many available backup bigs for the minimum or with part of their MLE.

Not saying that MEM would do anything like this though

 

[CoffeeNerdness]

Brown did not have a good series against the Heat. He recognized how poorly he played during the Game 7 loss to Miami. He needs to stem the turnover issues that have popped up consistently deep in the playoffs. He needs to avoid the tunnel vision that occasionally takes him captive.

Is the writer saying Jaylen recognizes how poorly he played in game 7 and that he(Jaylen) recognizes that he needs to correct his turnover/tunnel vision issue or is he saying that Jaylen recognizes how poorly played in game 7 and the writer thinks the road to improvement is stemming the turnovers and avoiding tunnel vision? If it's the former then great, he recognizes the flaws in his game and will work to improve. If it's the latter we don't really know what Jaylen thinks about why he played as poorly as he did, nor if he thinks there are flaws he needs to correct. The turnovers are perhaps an issue that cannot be corrected, so it's kinda funny how these sentences sort of just casually easy-peasy their way to a solution. "Just fix these massive flaws and you're good, bro."

 

[Euclis20]

One of the really nice things about Jaylen is that, like Tatum, his game has improved just about every single year since entering the league. Some things will never improve (and at 26, some avenues of improvement are off the table), but getting better at dribbling with his left hand is absolutely the kind of thing that a player like him could, with hard work, improve significantly at over the summer. The more time passes since game 6, the more at peace I'm feeling with standing pat.

 

[ManicCompression]

Some things will never improve (and at 26, some avenues of improvement are off the table), but getting better at dribbling with his left hand is absolutely the kind of thing that a player like him could, with hard work, improve significantly at over the summer.

The issue isn't simply dribbling with his left hand, though. It's seeing the floor. When Tatum (for example) gets in the lane, he can access both shooters in the corners, shooters above the break, whoever's in the dunker's spot, and the hoop. Jaylen doesn't make those reads as well - when the defense collapses, he doesn't excel at making quick decisions to pass out of it. He tries to dribble and bully his way through it, which doesn't work. If he passed out earlier, the dribbling would matter much less.

That's a basketball feel thing, not a dribble training thing. If he hasn't gotten it from 1000 NBA games or so, I'm skeptical it's going to happen. He could work on his handle all summer and it's not going to matter if he can't read which defender is leaving which guy open to bother him in the lane.

 

[vicirus]

Two things that stood out to me in the playoffs are that (1) relying on 3-point shooting to the extent they have can really fall apart when they get tired playing every other day for a month+ straight and (2) coaches have preyed on Smart’s penchant for taking end of game shots by denying Brown/Tatum.

An interesting team I have my eyes on are the Bulls. They’ve only made the playoffs 1 out of 4 years, and grabbed the 6 seed last year. Lavine’s name has been in rumors the past two seasons, Vuc and Colby White are UFA and Lonzo may never play again. They could double down on the awful Vuc trade and re-sign him for significant money, or they could pivot and tear it all down. In that case, I’ve got my eyes on DeRozan as I think he could solve both of the issues I mentioned above. 1 year / 29mm remaining, 33yrs old, 3 time all-NBA, legit MVP candidate early last year and has shot 51-54% on 2pts the last 4 seasons (yes ~30% on 3pts). Salary matching would require Smart or Brogdan plus one or more of Muscala/Kornet/Gallinari. With Brown/Tatum’s extension, I could see him re-signing for reasonable money that would work. I think he’s a proven crunch time scorer, solid vet, and I think the team could really play off his 2pt scoring that same way Miami has with Butler.

My question, is what do people think it would take to acquire him (two firsts and a swap? Throw in Caruso too?) and how do you think he’d fit in with such a 3pt heavy team? If I learned anything this year, it’s that the regular season is really kind of over rated as long as you make it in.

 

[Euclis20]

The issue isn't simply dribbling with his left hand, though. It's seeing the floor. When Tatum (for example) gets in the lane, he can access both shooters in the corners, shooters above the break, whoever's in the dunker's spot, and the hoop. Jaylen doesn't make those reads as well - when the defense collapses, he doesn't excel at making quick decisions to pass out of it. He tries to dribble and bully his way through it, which doesn't work. If he passed out earlier, the dribbling would matter much less.

That's a basketball feel thing, not a dribble training thing. If he hasn't gotten it from 1000 NBA games or so, I'm skeptical it's going to happen. He could work on his handle all summer and it's not going to matter if he can't read which defender is leaving which guy open to bother him in the lane.

It can be both. He'll never be a guy averaging 5+ assists per game (he'll never be Tatum, whose gotten very good at finding the open man and making the right pass), but a large number of his turnovers aren't bad passes or driving into traffic, it's getting the ball slapped away on pick and rolls and sometimes just going to his left. There's a lot of realistic room to improve here.

 

[nighthob]

Two things that stood out to me in the playoffs are that (1) relying on 3-point shooting to the extent they have can really fall apart when they get tired playing every other day for a month+ straight and (2) coaches have preyed on Smart’s penchant for taking end of game shots by denying Brown/Tatum.

An interesting team I have my eyes on are the Bulls. They’ve only made the playoffs 1 out of 4 years, and grabbed the 6 seed last year. Lavine’s name has been in rumors the past two seasons, Vuc and Colby White are UFA and Lonzo may never play again. They could double down on the awful Vuc trade and re-sign him for significant money, or they could pivot and tear it all down. In that case, I’ve got my eyes on DeRozan as I think he could solve both of the issues I mentioned above. 1 year / 29mm remaining, 33yrs old, 3 time all-NBA, legit MVP candidate early last year and has shot 51-54% on 2pts the last 4 seasons (yes ~30% on 3pts). Salary matching would require Smart or Brogdan plus one or more of Muscala/Kornet/Gallinari. With Brown/Tatum’s extension, I could see him re-signing for reasonable money that would work. I think he’s a proven crunch time scorer, solid vet, and I think the team could really play off his 2pt scoring that same way Miami has with Butler.

My question, is what do people think it would take to acquire him (two firsts and a swap? Throw in Caruso too?) and how do you think he’d fit in with such a 3pt heavy team? If I learned anything this year, it’s that the regular season is really kind of over rated as long as you make it in.

Please, god, no. Let someone else make that mistake.

 

[benhogan]

Two things that stood out to me in the playoffs are that (1) relying on 3-point shooting to the extent they have can really fall apart when they get tired playing every other day for a month+ straight and (2) coaches have preyed on Smart’s penchant for taking end of game shots by denying Brown/Tatum.

An interesting team I have my eyes on are the Bulls. They’ve only made the playoffs 1 out of 4 years, and grabbed the 6 seed last year. Lavine’s name has been in rumors the past two seasons, Vuc and Colby White are UFA and Lonzo may never play again. They could double down on the awful Vuc trade and re-sign him for significant money, or they could pivot and tear it all down. In that case, I’ve got my eyes on DeRozan as I think he could solve both of the issues I mentioned above. 1 year / 29mm remaining, 33yrs old, 3 time all-NBA, legit MVP candidate early last year and has shot 51-54% on 2pts the last 4 seasons (yes ~30% on 3pts). Salary matching would require Smart or Brogdan plus one or more of Muscala/Kornet/Gallinari. With Brown/Tatum’s extension, I could see him re-signing for reasonable money that would work. I think he’s a proven crunch time scorer, solid vet, and I think the team could really play off his 2pt scoring that same way Miami has with Butler.

My question, is what do people think it would take to acquire him (two firsts and a swap? Throw in Caruso too?) and how do you think he’d fit in with such a 3pt heavy team? If I learned anything this year, it’s that the regular season is really kind of over rated as long as you make it in.

I like the creativity but not the outcome.

Brad is really skilled with his firsts, giving up multiples (especially in light of the new CBA) for 1 season of DeRozan (#3 scoring option) is too much.

The C's need a 4/5 for the rotation.

 

[TrapperAB]

FWIW, NBA Radio this morning, Scal said something along the lines of, “The Celtics are going to work hard to get under the cap this offseason… Smart, Brogdon, and White won’t all be back… Pritchard will be playing a much bigger role next season.” The way he said it made it sound like maybe he had some inside intel.

His co-host said he thought Smart would be moved.

 

[ManicCompression]

“The Celtics are going to work hard to get under the cap this offseason… Smart, Brogdon, and White won’t all be back… Pritchard will be playing a much bigger role next season.” The way he said it made it sound like maybe he had some inside intel.

Cap or Luxury apron? I think it's impossible for them to get under the cap at this point

 

[Cellar-Door]

Cap or Luxury apron? I think it's impossible for them to get under the cap at this point

I assume he meant tax. A number of people have noted that ducking under the tax this year before the Jaylen extension kicks in is possible and very advantageous financially.

 

[TrapperAB]

You guys are right, I think Scal said tax. My bad.

The context was Scal trying to temper fan expectations that the Celts would do anything other than move some pieces for financial reasons.

 

[DeJesus Built My Hotrod]

Jay King had a piece in The Athletic today saying that the Cs aren't likely to trade for Beal or another "star" (I believe King is referring to max-type players with this term) so Scal is probably right.

That said, there are plenty of scenarios where they can move a piece or two and improve their roster/skill-set balance. Those deals also seem to be where Stevens is most effective to date so that feels the most likely outcome besides running it all back.

 

[PedroKsBambino]

Cellar Door mentioned one aspect of it above, I think the first question they are trying to sort is bigger picture tax stuff, which has three or four inputs...

1. Will they supermax Jaylen (and will he accept, but I think if they will, he will). Or something close.
2. Are they willing to spend at second apron level for several years (and as part of that, is a one-year tax 'vacation' financially beneficial enough that it is worthwhile anyway)
3. What does 1 and 2 say about their plan for Grant
4. What do 1, 2 and 3 say collectively about the needs in trades---is it to reduce 2023-24 salary; long term salary; simply to improve roster, etc.

 

[nighthob]

Given the overall athleticism of the bench, the thought of giving Payton Pritchard a top 8 spot is going to give me heartburn next postseason. They really need to increase the athleticism there, especially if Williams is outbound.

 

[Strike4]

Given the overall athleticism of the bench, the thought of giving Payton Pritchard a top 8 spot is going to give me heartburn next postseason. They really need to increase the athleticism there, especially if Williams is outbound.

Ugh, I like PP but he's not as good as the other three guards. And I think if one of those has to go for cap reasons I think (sadly) it would have to be Smart.

 

[sonofgodcf]

Ugh, I like PP but he's not as good as the other three guards. And I think if one of those has to go for cap reasons I think (sadly) it would have to be Smart.

I've got to think (hope) that any talk about PP getting more run this year is just an effort to rebuild his trade value. It didn't seem like Joe had much faith in him, and Pritch was advocating for a trade at the deadline. I think all parties would benefit with a split. Hopefully we can spin him for something more than a second.

 

[nighthob]

Ugh, I like PP but he's not as good as the other three guards. And I think if one of those has to go for cap reasons I think (sadly) it would have to be Smart.

I mean opponents would be drooling every time Pritch sets foot on the court, because either White would have to defend bigger/stronger guys, which he struggles with, or Brogdon would have to defend at all, which he struggles with.

 

[BigMike]

I've got to think (hope) that any talk about PP getting more run this year is just an effort to rebuild his trade value. It didn't seem like Joe had much faith in him, and Pritch was advocating for a trade at the deadline. I think all parties would benefit with a split. Hopefully we can spin him for something more than a second.

NBA teams shock me all the time, but I just can't see any way PP draws more than a late second, maybe even one of those future seconds that may not convey. He could have a role somewhere maybe as a depth shooter, but there just isn't much there in his game, and he is at best a borderline athlete at Guard.

 

[Auger34]

Ugh, I like PP but he's not as good as the other three guards. And I think if one of those has to go for cap reasons I think (sadly) it would have to be Smart.

If it’s a cap situation, the person moved is going to be Brogdon. He makes the most by a non-trivial amount.

 

[Auger34]

I mean opponents would be drooling every time Pritch sets foot on the court, because either White would have to defend bigger/stronger guys, which he struggles with, or Brogdon would have to defend at all, which he struggles with.

I was incredibly disappointed with how Brogdon defended in the postseason. He was a ball watching turnstile, which makes it kind of funny that he was the most outspoken player about establishing a defensive identity.

 

[DeJesus Built My Hotrod]

The Pritchard and Williams situations are interesting because it really felt like both had lost Mazzulla's faith as the season wore on. Maybe there were injuries or other factors - the Cs depth this season was clearly one - but if either has a bigger role going forward it will be surprising.

 

[sonofgodcf]

NBA teams shock me all the time, but I just can't see any way PP draws more than a late second, maybe even one of those future seconds that may not convey. He could have a role somewhere maybe as a depth shooter, but there just isn't much there in his game, and he is at best a borderline athlete at Guard.

I think this is right, I'm just wishcasting that we get something of value for him. I'd guess a heavily-protect first that really turns into a 2028 2nd is probably about as good as it gets though. Either way, I think moving on from PP and Brogdon (hopefully someone sees him as a starter again) are the two most obvious moves for the team.

 

[Euclis20]

I was incredibly disappointed with how Brogdon defended in the postseason. He was a ball watching turnstile, which makes it kind of funny that he was the most outspoken player about establishing a defensive identity.

I also feel like he was a legitimately very good defensive player with Milwaukee. He fell off pretty badly in Indy, but that's how it goes when you're the best player on a mediocre team. I expected more out of him defensively this year.

Still, if he's traded for a rotation big he'll be missed offensively next year. He was the 3rd best scorer (with a pretty big drop off to #4), and his injury in game 1 was arguably as impactful as Tatum's in game 7. That's not necessarily reason enough to keep him, but unless Derrick White has another level, his offense will be missed.

 

[NomarsFool]

I think PP should be worth a second round pick. I would be very surprised if someone gave up a FRP for him, and would be angry if the Cs gave him away for nothing. He doesn’t have much role on this team, but he has shown that he can play in the NBA, and many players drafted in his range never do that.

 

[PedroKsBambino]

Trading him for a late second only makes sense if it is a favor to him/agent…which is a consideration in his case. But he is worth more than that, because he can play in NBA and most 2nd round picks don‘t. Team is better off with him in a bench role if that’s the return, though I understand why they may feel they need to move on.

I’d guess he’s more likely to be moved for a similar asset—-useful but limited player who has only a year or two of control left—than a pick. He falls in between pick values, really—-he’s only worth a first if It’s pretty late in round, and teams who’d trade that likely are contenders who Celts don’t want to help (and who won’t want to do encumber a pick by having it heavily restricted for years).

I could also imagine using 35 and he to move up into 20s or high teens to get a guy they really like in this year’s draft

 

[the moops]

Trading him for a late second only makes sense if it is a favor to him/agent…which is a consideration in his case.

BOS also has zero second round picks in 2024, 2025, 2026, 2027, 2028, and 2029 (they may have a 2026 actually but with swaps and protections it is hard to know for sure). So while Pritchard is for sure worth more than a 2nd round pick, having a few 2nd rounds picks available to help facilitate some other trades is also a consideration

 

[PedroKsBambino]

Yup, good point.

My guess is that they are weighing options around trading Brogdon and trading PP and and the resulting roster/tax implications. But it all depends on Jaylen/Grant longer-term, so it’s a complicated assessment.

Wouldn’t be surprised if PP goes, and feel like he’s a useful ‘good stats/bad time’ playing time increase guy for some teams, and a useful third/fourth guard and designated shooter for others. Just to say—-he’s probably more scheme-independent than a lot of guys of similar value, though he has the limitations we all know well too so it’s not like we’re getting any kind of haul for him

 

[Euclis20]

Pritchard is tricky to value because his value to both lottery teams and playoff teams is suspect. He can certainly be a productive regular season rotation player on almost any roster, but his low ceiling doesn't exactly make him attractive for lottery teams, and since it's not clear he can be in the top 8 of a good playoff rotation, there aren't any playoff teams that will give up anything of use for him.

If Boston ends up trading one of Brogdon/White/Smart for frontcourt help, Pritchard still has value to Boston. He's moved if they end up [mostly] standing pat this offseason, but assuming any big deal would move one of their 3 combo guards, Pritchard isn't going anywhere (unless he's a part of that deal).

 

[the moops]

Is Pritchard any worse than TJ McConnell? They are different obviously, but Pritchard's warts on defense are no worse than McConnell's on offense. TJ is going to make almost 9 million dollars next year