The Bad, The Ugly, The Released: 2023 NFL Roster Cuts

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Put this in the Patriots roster thread, but it can serve as a reminder here as well

Peter King had this today in his column. Thought it would be useful as the week continues:

Tuesday, 4 p.m. ET: Deadline for all teams to be at a 53-man roster limit, sending players they intend to release to the league’s personnel wire. There are two categories of players: waived players (players with less than four years of credited NFL service), or termination of vested veterans (players with four years or more of credited service). Vested veterans can sign with any team. Waived players are subject to the claiming system.
Tuesday, 7 p.m. ET (approximately): Teams will be informed of all players who have been released in a league email.
Wednesday, Noon ET: Deadline for teams to submit claims on any waived players.
Wednesday, 1 p.m. ET: Teams will be informed of any players they have been awarded under the waiver system. Once notified, each team has one hour to notify the league of a corresponding removal of a player or players from their 53-man roster to make room for the claimed player or players.
Wednesday, 6 p.m. ET: Deadline for teams to submit 16-player practice squads to the league. The league will post each team’s practice squad in an email to teams by 8 p.m. ET Wednesday.
 

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I wonder if the league parses by position and teams can simply look at those available that way?

Also, yeah, probably a longer night for coaches.
 

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I wonder if the league parses by position and teams can simply look at those available that way?

Also, yeah, probably a long night for coaches.
Yes, I think the official transaction wire makes it a lot easier for teams to parse all the moves, and I kind of doubt the coaches and personnel teams are doing crash courses in real-time (eg, fresh tape scouting) on players they’ve not already assessed. Maybe a surprise cut or two or three generates discussions between/among the personnel staff, the coaches, and BB based on the files/reports they’ve got on the player(s), don’t get me wrong, but I don’t think there is some 24-36 hour frenzy of work where player work ups are generated anew. I suspect the personnel teams already have an idea of who they think might spring free and, of that group, who they’d claim.
 

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These coaches must crash at the facility on Tuesday night then? That's a LOT of people and tape to go through.
I suspect the process started weeks ago. A significant number of these cuts probably were anticipated and they may have identified guys they like. The last-minute rush probably only pertains to a fraction of the overall cuttees.
 

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Saw in the write up that Harry got hurt in warmups. Can’t imagine anyone else bothering with him at this point. Maybe someone’s PS.
 

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Honestly not a bad idea. Blocking is the one thing he was really good at in the NFL. Just doesn’t have the speed to be a WR.
He's a good blocker for a WR, but he'd instantly become one of the smallest and worst blocking TEs in the league, were he to switch positions. He doesn't have anything to lose because he's basically already done, but he'd have to gain 15 pounds of muscle immediately, and he'd still be one of the smaller guys out there (quick skim through the AFC East and AFC North last year, the average TE weighted 250 pounds, Harry is listed at 225).
 

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He's a good blocker for a WR, but he'd instantly become one of the smallest and worst blocking TEs in the league, were he to switch positions. He doesn't have anything to lose because he's basically already done, but he'd have to gain 15 pounds of muscle immediately, and he'd still be one of the smaller guys out there (quick skim through the AFC East and AFC North last year, the average TE weighted 250 pounds, Harry is listed at 225).
Yeah, I was assuming he would need to bulk up but figure a professional athlete could do so, if motivated. Ultimately, he’s almost surely done with the NFL. Just doesn’t have it.
 

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Yeah, I was assuming he would need to bulk up but figure a professional athlete could do so, if motivated. Ultimately, he’s almost surely done with the NFL. Just doesn’t have it.
Definitely isn't going to make the Bob Lobel "Why can't we get guys like him" club!
 

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Harry has earned (according to Spotrac) a tidy sum of $10.2 million in his NFL career. Not bad.
 

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I was just going off the cut tracker, which doesn't list dates. Hadn't seen it mentioned.
I posted it somewhere but it's N'Keal Harry and his name likely makes most of our eyes glaze over.
 

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That 2019 draft will haunt my dreams forever.

Harry
JoeJuan
Winovich

Those were the first 3 picks and BB Wily Mo’d them all.
Winovich was ok early on. First two seasons he had 5.5 sacks each and showed some promise as a pass rusher. But beyond that...not a lot. So not a waste of a pick, but he's certainly had better ones.
 

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So, i was under the impression we would see a steady stream throughout the day out of Foxboro. Are we, instead, just going to get a single big drop this afternoon?
 

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Winovich was ok early on. First two seasons he had 5.5 sacks each and showed some promise as a pass rusher. But beyond that...not a lot. So not a waste of a pick, but he's certainly had better ones.
Fair. He was decent early on in a situational role and then got into the doghouse for whatever reason and that was it. Harry and JJ were obviously much bigger misses. Neither provided any real value and the opportunity cost for both was much higher. They both made conceptual sense and I remember being excited about both guys but they flopped rather spectacularly, unfortunately.
 

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I am not that famiilar with the rules here, but lets say they place a few players on the IR like we have read about. Can they claim a player back before another team claims a waived player like Zappe or Cunningham?
 

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I am not that famiilar with the rules here, but lets say they place a few players on the IR like we have read about. Can they claim a player back before another team claims a waived player like Zappe or Cunningham?
Players who get cut today get placed on waivers*. They can be claimed by any team tomorrow and would have to be added to that teams 53. If they clear waivers they become free agents and can be signed back to the PS or 53.

*vested veterans who have 4 years of service time skip waivers and immediately become free agents.

They've done this before particularly with veterans who skip waivers. I believe they cut Hoyer and Folk recently and technically the opening 53 had 1 QB/0 kickers before the IR moves and then signed them back prior to week 1. Those guys were veterans though who skipped waivers, they are taking on a little more risk with Zappe in that they need to clear waivers.
 

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Essentially they are saying that even adjusting for some onboarding time Zappe is replacement level.

also likely a very small bet that no one else is that likely to grab him as third qb or backup…..high I suspect is correct
 

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RB Myles Gaskin, released yesterday by the Dolphins, is signing today with the Vikings active roster, per source. Agents Drew Rosenhaus and Ryan Matha confirmed the deal with Minnesota, where Gaskin now will be reuniting with his former HC Brian Flores, the Vikings’ DC.
 

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Jets cut TE Zack Kuntz--we had some folks interested in him during draft. Hope Pats take a look.
 

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How much do you have to hate your 53 man roster, to replace 10%+ with castoffs from other orgs?

Also, lots of interest in DBs. Are they viewed as fungible, or do different teams have fundamentally different ideas of what they need?