The 2nd Season - 2019 Playoff Thread

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Embiid jacking up 3s, Simmons not even handling that ball. This game is entirely on Butler at this point. 76ers are garbage, Simmons is such a black hole in crunch time.

As I typed this Butler hits a dagger 3...
 

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squeaky bum time for Philly. I turned it back on when they were up 83-70. Now 90-87...

edit: hah, Embiid picks up the ball, takes 2 steps, spins - really looked like he travelled - and somehow gets it in. All this after Leonard has been a stone-cold assassin possession after possession in the 4Q as Philly looked increasingly panicked.
 

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squeaky bum time for Philly. I turned it back on when they were up 83-70. Now 90-87...
It’s amazing if you only focus on Simmons on D. I can’t believe they are playing him.

Thought Embiid was going to take another 3 but he smartly faked and took it to the hole.
 

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Gutty win by Philly, especially with Embiid clearly sick/off. Not sure why people are ripping on them—after Saturday’s game, I didn’t see how they could get back in the series. Now it looks like they’ve found some things that can carry over, and Embiid also gets some rest.
 

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Gutty win by Philly, especially with Embiid clearly sick/off. Not sure why people are ripping on them—after Saturday’s game, I didn’t see how they could get back in the series. Now it looks like they’ve found some things that can carry over, and Embiid also gets some rest.
The total disrespect they showed for Gasol on the offensive end turned out to be a brilliant strategy.
 

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That Embiid bucket down the stretch was nothing short of amazing. He would not be denied. And good on J-Butt. He doesn't do pretty but damn he gets it done.
 

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The total disrespect they showed for Gasol on the offensive end turned out to be a brilliant strategy.
And let Embiid cover Siakam (who had a rough game).

I’m impressed with Brett Brown’s ability to quickly
make some effective adjustments—didn’t know whether he had that in him, but he did some good stuff.
 

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I don't know what his numbers are but Tobias Harris does not look remotely like a max player
He may get max money but his shooting has been pretty poor since he joined the Sixers. HRB's view is that its a role/usage issue and it may well be though I am not totally sold that this is what is going on. The guy was brought to Philly to catch and shoot which was partially his role in LA and Detroit before that and he has struggled with the shoot part of that whole thing.

Regardless, someone will pay the guy but there are more questions now than there were a few months ago.
 

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Absolutely - but doesn’t that render Simmons a big negative?
I’m not going to disagree about Simmons but the one thing I like about this 76ers team is the interchangeable parts. Butler and Harris have good handles and can create their own shots. Embiid can attack the basket. Redick can get hot. I see Simmons as a defensive asset and rebounder. Philly dominated the boards tonight. Ben is a big part of that, even if he doesn’t get the rebound.
Toronto has some real problems under the basket. If they shoot well, they can overcome it. Not tonight.
 

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I’m not going to disagree about Simmons but the one thing I like about this 76ers team is the interchangeable parts. Butler and Harris have good handles and can create their own shots. Embiid can attack the basket. Redick can get hot. I see Simmons as a defensive asset and rebounder. Philly dominated the boards tonight. Ben is a big part of that, even if he doesn’t get the rebound.
Toronto has some real problems under the basket. If they shoot well, they can overcome it. Not tonight.
Philly also shot unsustainably badly in the 2nd half, even if the looks weren’t great.
 

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This game is awesome! Scoring, scoring and more scoring. No defense. And Portland needs Dr. Frankenstein to use all their bigs to piece together the healthy remaining limbs for a serviceable player.
 

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This game is awesome! Scoring, scoring and more scoring. No defense. And Portland needs Dr. Frankenstein to use all their bigs to piece together the healthy remaining limbs for a serviceable player.
It’s pretty fun to watch a game where every big is nearly unplayable defensively, but the teams have no choice but to play them.
 

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It’s pretty fun to watch a game where every big is nearly unplayable defensively, but the teams have no choice but to play them.
I mean, Portland needs to find some better duct tape. They can take Nurkic's torso, Leonard's Frankenstein head, Collins legs and Kanter's mustache to form a zombie big
 

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Jimmy Butler kind of takes over in 4th qtr. Been that way since he came over.
I guess but he can't create for others like a Kyrie, Curry, Dame, Harden, or Lowry. Denver and MKE create through their big men. Philly is kind of in limbo at the end of games .
 

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Philly also shot unsustainably badly in the 2nd half, even if the looks weren’t great.
That was a familiar-looking playoff game, defensive, physical. Boston has the soundest defense among the remaining teams. Philly can play good D when it’s backed into a corner. But they could just as easily forget about D in Game 3. Not always a focused team. Butler tries to preach defense but his is a lone voice.
 

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That was such a bad flop by Jokic running his own face into Kanter’s shoudler.
 

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I’m not going to disagree about Simmons but the one thing I like about this 76ers team is the interchangeable parts. Butler and Harris have good handles and can create their own shots. Embiid can attack the basket. Redick can get hot. I see Simmons as a defensive asset and rebounder. Philly dominated the boards tonight. Ben is a big part of that, even if he doesn’t get the rebound.
Toronto has some real problems under the basket. If they shoot well, they can overcome it. Not tonight.
I only saw the last 3Qs but seems to me that Simmons did a pretty credible job on KL when he was 1 on 1. Of course, TOR can get out of that matchup if they want but at the end of the shot clock, Simmons is the bet guy for PHI on KL.
 

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Thought PHI-TOR was very entertaining - teams played very hard and seemed evenly matched given Brown's adjustments.

But DEN-POR is super entertaining from a skill perspective.

What do people think - which conference semi-finals is the most entertaining other than BOS-MIL?
I think it's going to be DEN-POR.
 

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Personally, I don't really care all that much. But there's clearly been a lot of talk. The Rockets sent a complaint to the league. So, yes, I do think they should be transparent.
Yes, but the talk is basically like a debate over why a guy gets called for a block if he moves in front of a dribbling player but wouldn’t get called for one if he stood to the side and the player reached out his off ball arm to create contact while dribbling past. To respond to one of the previous posts, an offensive player gets to jump forward literally as far he wants, just like he can on a layup, and is entitled to land, so long as the defensive player hasn’t already established a right to the space. He can’t extend his limbs, legs or arms, into space that isn’t part of his path of travel to swipe at the defender, create contact, and get a foul call. It may be complicated to differentiate these at times, but the line itself is not complex or vague.
 

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Thought PHI-TOR was very entertaining - teams played very hard and seemed evenly matched given Brown's adjustments.

But DEN-POR is super entertaining from a skill perspective.

What do people think - which conference semi-finals is the most entertaining other than BOS-MIL?
I think it's going to be DEN-POR.
PHI-TOR is more compelling to me just because of the higher stakes and strategic adjustments. I find that more entertaining than Enes Kanter getting tooled on. I can see the appeal of Den-Por though: there are several really really skilleed players in the series.
 

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The NBA has heard your concerns about officiating, and has assigned Scott Foster to the Warriors-Rockets game tonight.

I’m just glad he’s not doing the Celtics.
 

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It's an unconscionable abuse to put Foster on this game unless he is going to so wildly overcorrect that it ends up working in Houston's favor.
 

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The Warriors have not been big fans of Scott Foster over the years either.

But the bigger issue is that it's a huge problem for the league when teams and fans are closely watching the ref assignments like this and complaining about the ref before the game is even played.
 

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The Warriors have not been big fans of Scott Foster over the years either.

But the bigger issue is that it's a huge problem for the league when teams and fans are closely watching the ref assignments like this and complaining about the ref before the game is even played.
Yeah Foster is not doing any particular team a favor.

As for your larger point, Foster's ongoing employment by the Association is mystifying to me given his proximity to Donaghy. Even if its simply bad optics, most employers would have distanced themselves from a guy like that by now. I get that the NBA isn't like most businesses but like you, I can't see Silver being too happy about the officiating taking center stage. Foster is about the worst answer to that issue.
 

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Jokic is going to put up some insanely sick numbers against Kanter/Leonard/Harkless this series. It really plays into what the Nuggets do......this could end up being a fairly quick series if they can shore things up defensively so Kanter doesn't minimize Jokic's contributions on the other end by dropping 26 on 11-14 shooting again.
 

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I think Portland is still in really good shape; last night CJ was ass and Murray was really good. Lillard has been the best player in the playoffs so far not named Kevin Durant, and while Jokic was awesome last night and should feast on Kanter, I'm not sure if he can be relied on to score 30+ each game of the series. If McCollum can play better and Murray shrinks, Portland is in the drivers seat.
 

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The league sure isn't backing down on their bid to get the Warriors to The Finals. Just announced that Scott Foster, who both Harden and Paul have heavily criticized in the past calling their issues "personal", will be going G2 tonight in Oakland, California.

I'm bringing out the popcorn for this one.
 

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The league sure isn't backing down on their bid to get the Warriors to The Finals. Just announced that Scott Foster, who both Harden and Paul have heavily criticized in the past calling their issues "personal", will be going G2 tonight in Oakland, California.

I'm bringing out the popcorn for this one.
Foster is the road team ref.
 

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Kawhi Leonard when guarded by Ben Simmons: 12/25 shooting, 0/9 from 3, 2 turnovers


Kawhi when guarded by any other Sixer: 17/22 shooting, 6/8 from 3, 1 turnover
 

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Jokic is going to put up some insanely sick numbers against Kanter/Leonard/Harkless this series. It really plays into what the Nuggets do......this could end up being a fairly quick series if they can shore things up defensively so Kanter doesn't minimize Jokic's contributions on the other end by dropping 26 on 11-14 shooting again.
That looked like the best version of Denver last night and Portland was still in the game to the very end. Jokic will continue to feast on Portland's bad defensive bigs, but I wouldn't expect the same level of production from Murray and Milsap night after night. Portland needs to make adjustments, but they got the offensive looks they wanted. This looks like a six or seven game series from what I saw last night.
 

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I don't know what the updated numbers are, but at one point during this run, the Warriors were 46-10 in playoff games not officiated by Scott Foster, and 7-6 in Foster games.
 

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The Warriors have not been big fans of Scott Foster over the years either.

But the bigger issue is that it's a huge problem for the league when teams and fans are closely watching the ref assignments like this and complaining about the ref before the game is even played.
Refs make a huge difference in the outcome of NBA playoff games. And it's too bad. One would think that a $50 billion enterprise, with $7+ billion in annual revenue, could figure out how to ref games better.
 

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Scott Foster is repeatedly named by coaches and players as the worst, or one of the 2-3 worst, officials in the NBA.

How he is assigned to this game on a night when 60 other officials aren't working...of course people are going to question the integrity of the NBA.