Yeah, for these reasons Wright needs to be firmly in the AL Cy Young conversation at this point, if not the frontrunner.I'd certainly agree if he was anything but a knuckleballer. Tim Wakefield's BABIP was 'unsustainable' his whole career, and his performance poorly tracked his peripherals - there are a lot of assumptions that go into what is 'normal' with pitching, and some of those assumptions may not hold true with a fundamentally different pitching style.
Chris Sale has a pretty compelling case for frontrunner with his numbers to this point too. Wright will be in the discussion if he can maintain his pace but Sale might have the edge with his projections.Yeah, for these reasons Wright needs to be firmly in the AL Cy Young conversation at this point, if not the frontrunner.
Farrell said, "If we’re in a situation where there is a little bit of moisture or the temperature is 90 degrees, it almost leaves us at a point where I have to scratch him if it ends up being a situation where the results are what they are, but we have to figure out a way to maintain some kind of grip whether it’s wearing sleeves, using rosin. He’s done a very good job for us, no questions about that. But, in those elements we have to find a way to adjust and make the most of them."
This butting of heads with the elements become a reality that Farrell and Wright have learned the hard way. The knucklballer has taken measures already, applying an over-the-counter concoction of glycerin and rosewater to his hands before each start.
http://www.weei.com/sports/boston/baseball/red-sox/rob-bradford/2016/07/28/some-things-you-might-want-know-about-these-rBut the problem, according to Wright, stems form sweaty forearms, with the moisture dripping down to hands. Hence the sleeves suggestions from Farrell. But as for rosin, the righty explained that the substance is counterproductive because it results in the same kind of sticky effect he battled in Texas.
Pretty sure hitters (and therefore umpires) are going to have an issue with a wristband on the throwing arm.Give him some fucking wrist bands. Jesus, is that difficult? You're going to scratch him because his forearms get sweaty and you can't figure out how to solve it?
Give him some fucking wrist bands. Jesus, is that difficult? You're going to scratch him because his forearms get sweaty and you can't figure out how to solve it?
As he states in the quote in the above post, rosin is counterproductive. I would think so, being a knuckleballer. They need a smooth ball and grip. It may be okay in cooler temps, but certainly not in the heat and humidity.Would love to hear Tim Wakefield's thoughts on this.
I would have thought liberal use of the the rosin bag could solve the problem.
Man, I don't know if its time to even really discuss moving him to the BP. I mean, yeah, he's been getting roughed up out there, particularly in the later innings but I always thought that a. Knuckleballers historically go through stretches where they lose the feel for the ultimate "feel" pitch and b. We have at least a quasi-explanation as to what's going on (sweat, poor grip). I mean, if Wright said "Yeah, I have a hard time maintaining my arm action late in the game" I'd get it, but...I think this is an over-reactionGiven the innings questions, it looks like he might be hitting the wall after 4or 5 innings.He is not comparable to Wakefield in pitching style. He probably averages 77 mph on all throws. Time to slot him in the bullpen .
That was my thought. If I have interviews or meetings on a hot day, I'll rub some Mitchums on my hand to make sure they're dry throughout.Okay, the rare sports issue that is in my wheelhouse as a dermatologist. I have no idea why Wright would use a home made concoction when there are actually proven methods to decrease sweating.
Understanding that it is the forearms, which is not a typical place to treat (palms are often a target of treatment ). A high strength aluminum chloride solution would be the first thing to try and would very possibly be the best solution -- few side effects and pretty effective. Put on forearms and palms before bed the 2 nights before each start and if needed adjust timing.
There are other treatments as well, but some like botox have been successful for palms, but never tried on forearms. And it may mess up his feel for the ball, so I would think that is a poor choice. Electrophoresis doesn't work very well.
So aluminum chloride and a forearm sweat band on the non-throwing forearm (if allowed) would be the first and probably best approach.
Just out of curiosity, who slots into his rotation spot if Wright's at some sort of innings ceiling and needs to be semi-shut down? And just saying "trade for someone" doesn't count as an answer. Gotta name a specific pitcher and how they go about acquiring him if he's not in the organization at present.Given the innings questions, it looks like he might be hitting the wall after 4or 5 innings.He is not comparable to Wakefield in pitching style. He probably averages 77 mph on all throws. Time to slot him in the bullpen .
I would trade for Ervin Santana.Just out of curiosity, who slots into his rotation spot if Wright's at some sort of innings ceiling and needs to be semi-shut down? And just saying "trade for someone" doesn't count as an answer. Gotta name a specific pitcher and how they go about acquiring him if he's not in the organization at present.
I think the more prudent action at this point is to see about solving the moisture/grip issues he's apparently had the last couple times out and see where that gets him before getting too worried about innings count. He's been in the 120-140 IP range the last few years...he should be good to scale up by 25-30% at least.
Yeah the mere thought of Wright being on an innings limit or his knuckler being affected by arm fatigue is kinda outrageous. The only times he's been hit all season were in the rain or middle innings when perspiration on a hot night was the issue.Wait is someone saying that Stephen Wright could be on an innings limit and should go to the bullpen?
Neither of those things will be happening.
For all the #firefarrell chatter, if there's one, clear fireable offense, it's using your team's best starter as a pinch runner and letting him get injured. That's a Grady Little-quality dumb move.Looks like Wright misses his next start per Comcast. Hurt his shoulder pinch running.
Not sure if that's sarcasm or not, but what I meant was that Farrell shouldn't have used his best starting pitcher as a pinch runner, unnecessarily putting him in a situation where he could be injured for no good reason.Yeah, you're right. He shouldn't have let him get injured.
By the same logic, if Papi can't run the bases without hurting himself...I'm about as far from a Farrell apologist as possible but if the dude can't handle running the bases without hurting his shoulder that falls on him, not the manager.
It wasn't an ideal situation, but happens more than you might think under National League rules. I'm no fan of Farrell's but hard to pin this on him and the Ortiz comp is a bit foolish. Can you think of any other options?By the same logic, if Papi can't run the bases without hurting himself...
It's not about whether Wright can or can't run the bases without injury. It's about exposing your best starting pitcher to unnecessary risk.
We talk all the time about the injury risk of leaving a starting pitcher in a game too long, letting him throw too many pitches, and that's a pitcher's job. Baserunning isn't. How many times has Wright run the bases in the last 10 years? Two? And it's not as if he's the most athletic guy on the team.
The injury risk to a pitcher running the bases is much, much greater than to a position player. Or rather, it takes much less of an injury to sideline a pitcher. If a position player sprains a thumb or strains a hammy they can often still play. That's less true for pitchers. Heck, if Wright breaks a fingernail on his right hand, he's out for a week or two.
It was a spectacularly dumb decision.
At first, I thought the Ortiz comp was silly too, but it's not if you consider that both Ortiz and Wright are worth about the same WAR-wise right now. Seems weird, but that's the significance of starting pitching. Aside from morale (which you can't discount) losing Wright to injury for the rest of the season would be as bad as losing Ortiz. Maybe worse, there are guys on the team who could replace 80% of Papi's offensive production. Who we got that can pitch 80% as well as Wright?It wasn't an ideal situation, but happens more than you might think under National League rules. I'm no fan of Farrell's but hard to pin this on him and the Ortiz comp is a bit foolish. Can you think of any other options?
Buchholz had pitched the day before and had warmed up once or twice already, but he was still in the pen. He came into the game in the 8th after Tazawa gave up a couple of bombs to make it a 3 run game. Barnes and Ross were probably the only ones that weren't available having pitched the night before.I get what you're saying but not many options for Farrell that day and I believe Buchholz pitched the previous inning. Ortiz is a higher risk given his achilles issues. He's often not running all out because of that and you need a guy that can score from second if the situation calls for it, without Otiz trying to be that guy and snapping a ligament in the process. NL teams are forced to to it on occasion. That said, Wright's boiler doesn't make him the best choice, but on that particular day.....
Eduardo's also coming back from a knee injury, so I personally wouldn't tap him as a pinch runner in that situation.Why wouldn't you use the previous day's starting pitcher as a pinch runner? Eduardo is younger and more athletic than Wright and surely faster.
This is a fair question. In the past when taking Ortiz out for PR it normally isn't until he reaches 2nd base because they don't want to pull his bat out of the lineup if that guy never gets into scoring position. As PH in the pitcher's slot he's not coming back up to bat anyway unless there was a double with employed which I don't remember.Why wouldn't you use the previous day's starting pitcher as a pinch runner? Eduardo is younger and more athletic than Wright and surely faster. Or if he isn't comfortable or doesn't know what he is doing, then use Pomeranz who was an NL pitcher until recently and ran the bases there.
In addition to being older/slower/less experienced than Rodriguez or Pomeranz, If the game went 16 innings Wright might have been an option to pitch, those others wouldn't.
They should have brought in a pitcher as a pinch runner as soon as Ortiz got on base, but no one came in until he got to second. Lucky he didn't get hurt too.