Spurs 23/24: I'm Loving Big Ange Instead

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I watched Dragusin's highlight reel last night and what stands out to me is the speed (obviously) and attacking chops. This guy has scored some goals and appears super athletic. I find it kinda funny that we intend to use him as a CB, even though he looks like a bigger FB, in the mold of a Foyth (still bummed he's gone), Mathieu, or Mingueza (sorry for the hamfisted Barca comps, kind of a tricky player type).
 

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Leeds terminated Djed Spence's loan early, seemingly likely for exactly the reasons you would think. Spurs record in buying and/or developing EFL talent has been truly grim for the past half-decade.
 

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Leeds terminated Djed Spence's loan early, seemingly likely for exactly the reasons you would think. Spurs record in buying and/or developing EFL talent has been truly grim for the past half-decade.
Seems Conte was right about him.
 

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We don't have a "Here we go!" yet but Fab says it's close and they are still working on Dragusin.
 

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Park him on the left wing and he’s pretty quickly doing the out ball job Johnson had yesterday but better I think.
 

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Timo Werner needs to play for an optimistic football team – Spurs may suit him perfectly

From a technical perspective, though, there is good reason to think positively. Werner’s speed, his waspish pressing and his capacity to distort defences and race into gaps will enhance Tottenham’s existing dynamics. As intricate as their football can be, it is sometimes more blunt in the final 30 yards. Although partly the legacy of this season’s debilitating injury crisis and the absence of James Maddison’s craft, that stutter in their football also describes a forward group that is still slightly conservative.

Most often, that shows when Tottenham counter-attack or skip through a press. There are times when they fashion a numerical advantage only to let it slip away, with a cautious action — a sideways pass, a check infield — allowing an opponent to regroup. Werner’s south-to-north mentality should help with that. His instinct is always to move forward and race towards the defensive line and that should allow Spurs to exploit space more ruthlessly.
 

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Doesn't look like Sarr is in Senegal's starting XI today. Should've stayed in London!
 

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Porro's deliveries on corners are sublime and he was really unlucky to only have one assist yesterday off one. Especially with Romero and Mickey Van De Ven back in the lineup, it's such a weapon.
 

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The Extra Inch guys were pleased with Werner in the MAN U match but I didn't see it the same way. Werner looked the same as always to me, although I'm certainly not writing him off yet by any means. Fair warning that I dozed off repeatedly during the second half, but didn't see anything much positive in the first. He gets very real credit for the assist to Ben10, but that wasn't exactly a difficult or hugely creative pass.

CAN WE ALSO TALK ABOUT HOW BOTH THE CBs RETURNED TO ACTION? WOW. I'm HERE for the rope-a-dope injury reports. Do Maddison next!
 

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Werner looked like a guy who has trained with the team and system for less than a week and he did a few standard Werner things (I don't really mind the skied long shot or the skied volley, both of which were high degree of difficulty, but the dragged wide left foot shot made me sigh a bit).

He's getting credit largely for being totally fine being chucked into the team on short notice in a tough spot where we'd otherwise have needed to start Bryan Gil given the other absences.
 

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Yeah, Werner had 2 training sessions and had the ultra-creative midfield duo of Skipp and PEH behind him. He had a decent header that was knocked out for a corner, pushed another shot wide. His assist was a simple pass, but it counts.

When he has guys like Maddison out there, all he has to do is make runs into space and open everything up.
 

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I think they said he had only played like, 34 minutes of total game time over the past two months. He would have never started if they were not so short-staffed at the moment, I mean the bench was a just-arrived Radu Dragusin, Emerson, Gil, some kids and two keepers. I'll take a game with some solid pressing and a goal contribution.
 

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Would like to see a buy option, it feels like Spurs are still kinda struggling to get rid of guys they don't want in the team (although getting anything for Dier was kind of a coup in that area).
 

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Fair points re Werner, I just didn't see anything in his game that I would expect to be considered statistically positive, so I was surprised to hear TEI's reaction.

Reggie needs to get back to Spain. Fine that he landed at Brentford on loan, but his contract runs out on 06/2025 and he should look for a permanent move in the summer. Spurs owe him $5M GBP, and I think a Spanish club can make it worthwhile to Spurs.
 

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Maddison is on the bench for the FA Cup match today!

Hopefully he gets some run at the end no matter the game state.
 

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It *seemed* from watching on TV that Werner had some runs timed up and the ball wasn't released.
 

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8 minutes of peak Ange Ball there in second half.

Sarr back for the weekend!
 

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It seems like the trick with Werner is getting him on the run and hitting him in stride with passes on the ground. That was a huge feature of those attacks.
 

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Very strange game--both Brentford goals were complete gifts, with the second being one of the biggest gifted goals you will see in the EPL all year. Spurs had an amazing eight minute span coming out of the half, but outside of that were pretty meh.

Having Romero and Mickey back and healthy is huge, as together they cover for a lot of mistakes, which was necessary giving the way Udogie was playing. Hoj was also really bad when he came on in the second half, just needlessly giving the ball away left and right. On the plus side, Maddison starting again is a total game changer for this team, his ability to pick up the ball and drive it forward either with his pace on the ball or his passing vision, is irreplaceable in the side.

I thought they didn't have enough width in the first half--Werner and Kulu were closer to the edge of the penalty area than the touchline in a lot of instances and that allowed Brentford to clog the middle of the attacking third. In the second half, they added more width and voila, the goals started happening.

Werner was huge in that regard, the first goal he got the ball out wide, which gave Udogie more space to cut inside and score. The second goal was all Timo just getting the ball on the run, behind the defense, and setting up a perfect ball for a Johnson tap-in. Great stuff.

It's been huge, especially with Son out, that Richarlison has gone from being a sunk cost to a consistent goal scorer. He was looking like one of the biggest busts in club history not that long ago, and now he has scored seven goals in his past seven games and doing a lot for Spurs with his pressing and activity from the #9 position.

Will be nice to have Maddison and Son together again soon. Spurs obviously miss the clinical finishing of Sonny.
 

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Son and South Korea down 2-0 with just a few minutes left in semifinals. Looks like he'll be back soon.
 

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That is a pretty big upset. Jordan going to the AFC Finals and it is no fluke, South Korea doesn't even have a shot on goal. Jordan is ranked 87th in the world, while South Korea is 23rd.
 

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Son and South Korea down 2-0 with just a few minutes left in semifinals. Looks like he'll be back soon.
Disappointing tourney after getting bounced out of the Asian Cup but what a return for Son. Fantastic last-minute whip into the box for Johnson's winning goal.
 

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Son returns with a broken finger. Klinsmann running SK into the ground
There's a huge controversy right now in SK with the entire nation wanting the Korean Football Association to fire Klinsmann but the head of it is standing firm. Of course he was the one who went against advisors in hiring him in the first place.

Son's fingers got dislocated when he got into/tried to separate an altercation regarding playing ping pong. Lee Kangin has been singled out as the one who disrespected the captain. Lots of conflicting accounts as to exactly what had happened.

Of course, I think this is a big cover-up attempt for the head of KFA (member of the Hyundai family) to shift focus away from his (and Klinsmann's) lack of leadership.

It was funny even during the Asian Cup for many SK fans wanting the squad to go out early so Sonny can return to Tottenham. The level of quality that folks are now expecting has gotten immensely higher since the likes of Son, Kangin (PSG), and Kim Minjae (Bayern) have been playing for the big European clubs.
 

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There's a huge controversy right now in SK with the entire nation wanting the Korean Football Association to fire Klinsmann but the head of it is standing firm. Of course he was the one who went against advisors in hiring him in the first place.

Son's fingers got dislocated when he got into/tried to separate an altercation regarding playing ping pong. Lee Kangin has been singled out as the one who disrespected the captain. Lots of conflicting accounts as to exactly what had happened.

Of course, I think this is a big cover-up attempt for the head of KFA (member of the Hyundai family) to shift focus away from his (and Klinsmann's) lack of leadership.

It was funny even during the Asian Cup for many SK fans wanting the squad to go out early so Sonny can return to Tottenham. The level of quality that folks are now expecting has gotten immensely higher since the likes of Son, Kangin (PSG), and Kim Minjae (Bayern) have been playing for the big European clubs.
I heard that Kangin and some other players were going to play ping-pong and Son got mad at them for not taking the tournament seriously enough and that led to the altercation.
 

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I heard that Kangin and some other players were going to play ping-pong and Son got mad at them for not taking the tournament seriously enough and that led to the altercation.
That seems to be one of the few things that are true about the incident.

Speaking of Korean players, we have a "Korean Derby" coming up between Son & Wolves' Hwang Heechan.