That passes the eye test too. Spurs should've been up 2-1 at half. Incredible defending from LCFC and some luck kept Spurs from making this a laugher in the first 45.
Spurs 21/22: Conte? Conte!!
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I think I saw that was the highest xG all season for any team, but I may have misheard that.
Spurs deserved those points, it was nice to see.
Latest ever comeback in Premier League: Tottenham stages latest-ever comeback to win an EPL game (msn.com)
Previous was the Man City win over QPR to clinch the league 10 years ago.
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Just rewatched highlights and a couple of things stood out. First, Hoj had a massive match. He saved the Dav blunder when he got megged with a hustle back and lay out on the shot from inside the box. Then, he serves the long ball to Doherty that lead to the first Bergy goal. THEN, he intercepts the lazy pass that sets off the game winner and bursts forward in the 96th minute to be an option to boot. The other thing that stood out to me is that the window for Bergy's first goal was really small. Check out the 3 replays starting at 11:02 below, but especially the third [insert eyes emoji]:
View: https://youtu.be/3oBoiQZbfVc?t=663
View: https://youtu.be/3oBoiQZbfVc?t=663
Good news, Hugo officially signs new contract, will run through 2024:
View: https://twitter.com/SpursOfficial/status/1484450973250723847?s=20
View: https://twitter.com/SpursOfficial/status/1484450973250723847?s=20
Traore is rumored to play wingback if he joins, likely as a starter. Bergwijn doesn't do that--or at least, no manager has seen fit to think he could do that.
Traore deal seems close to done. I hope that it's for the WB role, although that's a bit harsh for Doherty and Emerson. Doherty had a strong performance in the second half against LCFC and Emerson is coming along nicely.
https://theathletic.com/news/tottenham-and-wolves-close-to-agreeing-deal-for-adama-traore/J7WJySH24yPQ/
Also looks like Tanguy to PSG is picking up steam. Either as a loan (potentially with option to buy), or involving a swap for Leandro Paredes. Last time I checked in at PSG he was a solid starter and fairly brilliant pivot. He's press resistant and an excellent distributor out of the back. He doesn't impress with defensive work or workrate, but he doesn't strike me as a total liability. He's formed an excellent partnership with GLC and Rodrigo de Paul for Argentina.
https://theathletic.com/news/tottenham-and-wolves-close-to-agreeing-deal-for-adama-traore/J7WJySH24yPQ/
Also looks like Tanguy to PSG is picking up steam. Either as a loan (potentially with option to buy), or involving a swap for Leandro Paredes. Last time I checked in at PSG he was a solid starter and fairly brilliant pivot. He's press resistant and an excellent distributor out of the back. He doesn't impress with defensive work or workrate, but he doesn't strike me as a total liability. He's formed an excellent partnership with GLC and Rodrigo de Paul for Argentina.
I wish the better team that was *also* utter kryptonite for Spurs was City or Pool, not Chelsea. They’ve had puncher’s chances against the others recently, but Chelsea matches are over before they begin.
Yeah, it's been a rough stretch of games watching Spurs play Chelsea so many times in a couple weeks and looking overmatched in each game. I thought the defense played well in the first half given how much possession they were conceding, but they lost their heads coming out half-time and Chelsea put them away. I thought it was a really good game for Bergwijn who showed a lot; can't say the same for Sessengon, but he also has barely played this season.
Kane's goal was technically a foul, but Silva made a meal out if it and the little push would be the kind of thing that pundits like Alan Shearer or Linekar would be praising as savvy play from a striker if the goal had stood.
When it comes to progressive passes from the midfield, it's not a fair fight when one team has Kovacic and Jorginho and the other has Hojbjerg and Harry Winks.
I wonder what the thinking was behind that bizarre lineup. I mean obviously it was designed to give the wings tons of help with all of Davies, Tang, Sess, and Doherty out there. But Emerson and Reggie were both on the bench and I was surprised they didn't make it onto the field at all. I'm not terribly discouraged by the result--going in the table looked like a clear top 3 with another 4 chasing, and that's still the case coming out. OTOH, Chelsea have been rocking this month but clearly put it all back together JUST IN THE NICK OF TIME to host Spurs. Such is life. They really do own us ATM, but hopefully we finally see some player movement this week and Conte gets some players that can expedite the club's Conte-morphasis.
Spain media reporting that Luis Diaz has rejected Spurs bid for €45m+.
Here we go with Levy waiting & pinching pennies until the last days, losing out on transfer targets.
Here we go with Levy waiting & pinching pennies until the last days, losing out on transfer targets.
What I've read indicates that the player is keen on the move to Spurs, but Porto are holding out for a bigger fee--current offer of ~€45M--was rejected, and they're looking for closer to €60M. This seems like one where Spurs shouldn't be too shy about meeting close to the middle and finalizing the deal. It looks like they have a pretty nice fish on the hook in a young, accomplished striker with term left on his contract, and getting him at that price is a good bet. Hopefully just waiting on some player sales to close.
Amrabat also seems close with the wait for outgoing transfer funds being the hold up. Poor damn Fiorentina. At least they'll be flush with cash after this window.
Spurs are apparently holding the line on the transfer fee for Adama, and frankly they should. This is not an airtight fit and Adama only has one more season left on his contract. Just as a hypothetical, I'd much rather increase the fee for Diaz by €5M than throwing that money at Adama, not to mention that Emerson and Doherty are a reasonable tandem to see out the season at RWB, whereas the backup striker is...Son??
Big movement on the Tanguy front, as Valencia and Spurs have agreed to terms on a 6 month loan. Tanguy's agent is negotiating with both Valencia and PSG as Tanguy prefers PSG, but PSG need to complete some outgoings first to make this happen. Another nugget of information that's important here is that Tanguy helps PSG meet their requirements for French players.
Spurs rejecting a loan offer from Milan for Tanganga, which is...interesting. It may have just been a weak offer, but with Romero close to returning and Dav looking like the preferred backup at RCB, I'm surprised that Spurs aren't jumping at the chance. I love me some Japh even during his recent run of bad form, but I'm still surprised.
GLC to Sevilla took a big hit with Monchi closing the deal for Martial. I wonder if his former club Betis might jump in.
Alli's best chance for a landing spot appears to be in the EPL, with Newcastle, Everton, and Southampton all making some sense as partners.
Finally, Jack Clarke has been loaned to Sunderland (now in League One) for the remainder of the season. Definitely a bummer that he couldn't land in the Championship, but at least Sunderland are playing attacking football. He joins former Spurs academy product Dennis Cirkin up Norf.
Amrabat also seems close with the wait for outgoing transfer funds being the hold up. Poor damn Fiorentina. At least they'll be flush with cash after this window.
Spurs are apparently holding the line on the transfer fee for Adama, and frankly they should. This is not an airtight fit and Adama only has one more season left on his contract. Just as a hypothetical, I'd much rather increase the fee for Diaz by €5M than throwing that money at Adama, not to mention that Emerson and Doherty are a reasonable tandem to see out the season at RWB, whereas the backup striker is...Son??
Big movement on the Tanguy front, as Valencia and Spurs have agreed to terms on a 6 month loan. Tanguy's agent is negotiating with both Valencia and PSG as Tanguy prefers PSG, but PSG need to complete some outgoings first to make this happen. Another nugget of information that's important here is that Tanguy helps PSG meet their requirements for French players.
Spurs rejecting a loan offer from Milan for Tanganga, which is...interesting. It may have just been a weak offer, but with Romero close to returning and Dav looking like the preferred backup at RCB, I'm surprised that Spurs aren't jumping at the chance. I love me some Japh even during his recent run of bad form, but I'm still surprised.
GLC to Sevilla took a big hit with Monchi closing the deal for Martial. I wonder if his former club Betis might jump in.
Alli's best chance for a landing spot appears to be in the EPL, with Newcastle, Everton, and Southampton all making some sense as partners.
Finally, Jack Clarke has been loaned to Sunderland (now in League One) for the remainder of the season. Definitely a bummer that he couldn't land in the Championship, but at least Sunderland are playing attacking football. He joins former Spurs academy product Dennis Cirkin up Norf.
The thing about this is it's unclear whether this is a capital issue or a cash flow issue. IOW, does a Tanguy loan with no option to buy allow them to up the fee for Diaz? Because in that case, Tanguy's wages are off the books (in whole or in part) for 6 months, but the infusion of capital is essentially delayed until a permanent move and fee can be secured over the summer. I imagine Spurs (and most clubs) are savvy enough to structure the deals and cash flows to match up--i.e. whatever transfer fee Spurs negotiate with Porto can be paid over time in a way to allow for the expected funds from Tanguy's sale to actually arrive--but it's all quite fascinating to me.
And looking at the rumored players for sale (Tanguy, GLC, Dele, Doherty, Rodon), only the first 3 move the needle for multiple starter acquisitions (i.e. Diaz, Amrabat, Adama) and how likely is it to secure a permanent move for any of them in the current winter window?
And looking at the rumored players for sale (Tanguy, GLC, Dele, Doherty, Rodon), only the first 3 move the needle for multiple starter acquisitions (i.e. Diaz, Amrabat, Adama) and how likely is it to secure a permanent move for any of them in the current winter window?
woah, what's this? Spurs losing out on Traore? View: https://twitter.com/David_Ornstein/status/1486664176953135108
I’ve seen reporting that Barca’s planned flurry of late signings requires them resolving Dembele’s situation and if true I put even odds on Barca blowing this transaction up for no particular reason and not actually signing him.
I get what you're saying, but Xavi at least seems to be clear about 2 ways forward--one with Dembele and one without. So either he gets with the program and saves himself 1/2 a season or he rots in the stands, but it seems like Barca should be able to do some business either way.
The loan with option to buy shouldn't be much of an issue financially for them. He's got reasonable wages and is a Barca homegrown player. I'm a fan of Traore, but he seems like an awful fit for a Xavi team.
Yeah, with only an option to buy and not a requirement it's Wolves who kinda get screwed on this, unless Traore goes massive in La Liga and Barca picks up the option or he comes back to Wolves with more values despite less time on his contract.
I guess for them it's part of the price to be paid for constantly being funneled Mendes' finest, it's done the club a lot more good than harm.
Spurs meanwhile, pay the standard Spurs price for waiting too long do do a thing they wanted to do.
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Eh, this transfer heated up when Paratici arrived, and everyone paying attention remarked that it didn't make as much sense once Conte was in charge. Spurs may have Spurs'd this one up, for sure, but it also may have been a case of changed perspective over time. Either way, I'm happy this one didn't get done, unless Antonio seems pissed about it.
Yeah, I'm not too fussed about Traore specifically (fun to watch, frustrating end-product, the idea of fit with Conte relies a lot on thinking that Victor Moses at Chelsea was a repeatable process with any inconsistent winger). It feels of a piece with a lot of other transfers Spurs fail to do though, which is the annoying part.
Scored on his debut, got us all excited, and has disappeared since.
To be fair, that's true of most forwards that played with CR7 at Juventus.
Allegri must really not rate him if Juve want to get rid even after Chiesa did his ACL and they're left with McKennie and Bernardeschi as wing options.
He has seriously quick feet but he always felt like he lumbered with the ball. It’s difficult to explain.
We'll know soon enough. Hopefully they get Betancur over the line, and find landing spots for Tanguy, GLC, and Gil. Any other movement to expect today? Maybe something for Rodon?
Edit: Looks like a couple of EPL clubs are trying to make a move for Dele. Everton makes a lot of sense. I hope he gets the move because he's such a fun player to watch and he's still young. I think I may even like him more playing for another club.
Edit: Looks like a couple of EPL clubs are trying to make a move for Dele. Everton makes a lot of sense. I hope he gets the move because he's such a fun player to watch and he's still young. I think I may even like him more playing for another club.
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Tanguy to Lyon confirmed by Romano. Loan thru end of season, with €65M option to buy, Lyon only paying part of wages (didn't see specific numbers). Gil to Valencia on loan (no options) also seems confirmed.
Everton just loaned Donny van de Beek, who seems to fill any role Dele might play.
But I would love to see the old Dele back in the EPL, the one with the impish grin and constant compulsion to try something fun.
I can’t believe there hasn’t been any links to a RWB.
I mean, how about calling Barca for Dest? Someone? Anyone?
I mean, how about calling Barca for Dest? Someone? Anyone?
I'm interested to see the fee here. This looks like good business for Spurs.
View: https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1488170670953541633
View: https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1488170670953541633
When Dele was 20 years old he scored 18 goals and had 7 assists for a Spurs team that scored 86 points and finished second. Somewhere along the way that player got lost. I hope he is able to regain that form with another club because it's a shame is career has gotten so off-track.
I still assume things will go basically as they seem to be with the guys coming in from Juve, but all the outgoings happening before the incomings is making me slightly nervous regardless.
EDIT: Was hoping for something that would require a rapid edit:
View: https://twitter.com/juventusfc/status/1488183809136898049
EDIT: Was hoping for something that would require a rapid edit:
View: https://twitter.com/juventusfc/status/1488183809136898049
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Reputable report that Lyon are covering most of his wages via €1.42M loan fee.
I suppose it's good to see club clearing out players Conte doesn't want, but my dream of an N'dombele/GLC partnership controlling midfield for years to come is now officially dead. And seeing Dele leave is sad. He shone so brightly at such a young age that his past few season feel like a total waste of an enormous talent. I don't know what went wrong there.
I think he was fading when Mourinho came in the door, but did Jose drive the stake into the heart of his career?
Just a clarification that the Dele transfer may look like £10M on paper, but that it's basically a backloaded contract with easily achieved incentives that could rise to a maximum of £40M. Spurs love to get wonky on their contracts, but that actually seems like a somewhat fair way to do it. IOW, there's a base and a max, but otherwise it's based on performances.
More emotionally, I'm bummed to see Dele go. He was infuriating at times, but damnit he was our guy. And truthfully I always expected him to break thru once again. The Extra Inch guys were saying that Everton on paper looks like a terrible landing spot for him. Dele's a luxury that makes good teams great, not bad teams good. And Everton's a mess. Nevertheless, they conceded (and I agree) that you never know how transfers will actually work out until rubber meets road.
As an Argentine, I'm also super bummed to see GLC go. He really does seem like a terrific modern footballer in a pressing system--and I'd go farther and say that I'm legitimately shocked he wasn't preferred by Conte. GLC's best attribute is his progressive passing in the middle third and pressing/defense. That seems pretty ideal for Conte. But for one reason or another, it isn't and it hasn't worked. Spurs desperately need to bring in some more Argentines so Romero has someone to drink maté and do asados with.
I'm also sad to see Tanguy go, but that's because he's a worldly talent and it just never got off the ground for him at Spurs. I wish him the best and hope he finds his way to PSG over the summer, and Spurs recoup the costs.
More emotionally, I'm bummed to see Dele go. He was infuriating at times, but damnit he was our guy. And truthfully I always expected him to break thru once again. The Extra Inch guys were saying that Everton on paper looks like a terrible landing spot for him. Dele's a luxury that makes good teams great, not bad teams good. And Everton's a mess. Nevertheless, they conceded (and I agree) that you never know how transfers will actually work out until rubber meets road.
As an Argentine, I'm also super bummed to see GLC go. He really does seem like a terrific modern footballer in a pressing system--and I'd go farther and say that I'm legitimately shocked he wasn't preferred by Conte. GLC's best attribute is his progressive passing in the middle third and pressing/defense. That seems pretty ideal for Conte. But for one reason or another, it isn't and it hasn't worked. Spurs desperately need to bring in some more Argentines so Romero has someone to drink maté and do asados with.
I'm also sad to see Tanguy go, but that's because he's a worldly talent and it just never got off the ground for him at Spurs. I wish him the best and hope he finds his way to PSG over the summer, and Spurs recoup the costs.
The fundamental Lo Celso at Spurs issue is pretty neatly summed up by his injury resume: https://www.transfermarkt.us/giovani-lo-celso/verletzungen/spieler/348795
He's been so often injured or coming back from injury that he's hardly been able to settle in and get a decent run of games. Timing's been pretty bad as well with injuries right after being bought by Poch and right after Conte came in. Conte had all of two matches with him in the squad before he got injured with Argentina and was out for a month, after which he's then behind the 8-ball training his system
He's been so often injured or coming back from injury that he's hardly been able to settle in and get a decent run of games. Timing's been pretty bad as well with injuries right after being bought by Poch and right after Conte came in. Conte had all of two matches with him in the squad before he got injured with Argentina and was out for a month, after which he's then behind the 8-ball training his system
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