No. I meant that Rusney and Hanley share left, Hanley and Ortiz and Rusney share DH - depending on who needs what kind of rest.Al Zarilla said:
Rusney Castillo Conundrum
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I completely agree that it is only a superficial measurement, but there are more signs than just Cherrington's comments pointing towards MLB being uniquely hard to break into as a hitter right now.uncannymanny said:
Beyond just seeing if mL numbers now result in lower ML numbers it would also be worth seeing if we're all working in an artificially inflated sense of what a rookie break in period consists of exiting a prolonged stretch of dominant offensive performance. It is entirely possible that pre-1990's the current rate of rookie success was the norm and now we're seeing a return to the norm, not an artificial bubble fueled by all the various factors that made the previous two decades offense dominant.
I think your conclusions are likely correct but I also think this is an area ripe for a deeper dive as we see the results dramatically shifting. I suspect that the smart teams, including Cherington's staff, are using systems internally doing just this and that some of the bleeding edge in front office statistical analysis includes some very significant models of player progressions within their own system.Drek717 said:
RT @Sean_McAdam: Industry source on the likelihood of Rusney Castillo being promoted by Red Sox Friday: "Possible.''
Same source on likelihood of earth being destroyed by an asteroid on Friday: "Possible."soxhop411 said:
Rusney Castillo's car is at Fenway Park, so it's reasonable to infer he is too.
https://twitter.com/TimBritton/status/601827065508298752
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https://twitter.com/TimBritton/status/601827065508298752
link to tweet
Regardless of my fantasy approach in the "Offense" thread, most likely scenario is:
- JBJ to Pawtucket
- Castillo to RF
- Victorino 4th OF
right?
- JBJ to Pawtucket
- Castillo to RF
- Victorino 4th OF
right?
MLB @MLB 24s24 seconds ago
.@RedSox recall OF @RusneyCastillo, reports @IanMBrowne. Club has not confirmed. http://atmlb.com/1GursMK
.@RedSox recall OF @RusneyCastillo, reports @IanMBrowne. Club has not confirmed. http://atmlb.com/1GursMK
soxhop411 said:
On WBZ today, Sean related that the answer he got was that Rusney would be suiting up in Boston before the weekend ended.
Red Sox stats has what sounds like a reasonable take on what to expect now that Castill is up:
Red Sox Stats @redsoxstats · 14m 14 minutes ago
Rusney isn't the savior, like the team has been mismanaged to make it seem. But play him in RF daily and that won't be a garbage black hole.
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Sounds right to me. wish he'd been around last couple of days, but no use thinking about that. Now that he's up, I hope Hanley can get some time off soon. I realize Rusney is starting in RF tonight, but hope his callup means some rest for Hanley as Rusney rotates around.
Red Sox Stats @redsoxstats · 14m 14 minutes ago
Rusney isn't the savior, like the team has been mismanaged to make it seem. But play him in RF daily and that won't be a garbage black hole.
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Sounds right to me. wish he'd been around last couple of days, but no use thinking about that. Now that he's up, I hope Hanley can get some time off soon. I realize Rusney is starting in RF tonight, but hope his callup means some rest for Hanley as Rusney rotates around.
Stan Papi Was Framed said:
They could do a L/R platoon with Nava & Hanley until Hanley's shoulder is a little better.
soxhop411 said:
Unless this "rotation" is actually just giving Mookie one day a week off, there is no way it makes sense to put him on the bench so Victorino can play more. I'll reserve going nuts until we see what this "rotation" actually is, but it seems like Ben needs to get ShaneVic off the team before Farrell hurts the growth of young players so that he can get Victorino ABs.
soxhop411 said:
Does this mean
A. Betts CF, Castillo RF
B. Castillo CF, Victorino RF
C. Betts CF, Victorino RF
???
geoduck no quahog said:
I'd imagine you get 3 days a week of A, 2 days a week of B, and 2 days a week of C. That way, Betts plays 5 days, Castillo plays 5 days, and Victorino plays four. Once every other week or so, either Hanley or Ortiz takes a day off and you can play all three of those guys. And now you always have a legit RH pinch-hitter if Sandoval faces a tough lefty, or a legit pinch-runner for Ortiz or the catcher. Seems pretty workable to me.
And, of course, it's flexible. If (when) Victorino is banged up, you get more A. If Mookie keeps struggling, you maybe get more B. If Castillo is out of sync, you get more C.
Then of course if one of them starts tearing the cover off the ball (oh happy day) we'll all bitch when he gets sat down.
I'm hoping (as others have suggested) that Hanley and Ortiz also figure into this rotation, so that in addition to the ABC options that GNQ suggested we also occasionally see
D Betts, Castillo, Vic
with Hanley sometimes out of the lineup and sometimes replacing Ortiz at DH. That would get Betts/Castillo/Vic a little more PT, help the defense, and rest Hanley/Ortiz.
In this scenario, Nava is just the 25th man; he mostly spells Nap at 1B, pinch-hits occasionally, and once or twice a month gets a start in the outfield.
D Betts, Castillo, Vic
with Hanley sometimes out of the lineup and sometimes replacing Ortiz at DH. That would get Betts/Castillo/Vic a little more PT, help the defense, and rest Hanley/Ortiz.
In this scenario, Nava is just the 25th man; he mostly spells Nap at 1B, pinch-hits occasionally, and once or twice a month gets a start in the outfield.
So tonight Castillo goes out and makes Hanley look like a gold glove outfielder. Good Lord, can anybody here play this game?
Sheesh if a $60m major league OF needs two hands to catch a fly ball something is seriously wrong. This isn't little league.
So much for the OF rotation with Victorino pulled out of the game with a calf injury.
Obviously at the point, Victorino can't be counted on being anything more than a spot starter when healthy.
Obviously at the point, Victorino can't be counted on being anything more than a spot starter when healthy.
In my lifetime said:
You can;'t make up some of this stuff:
What doesn't hurt his legs?
http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2015/05/23/switch-hitting-lost-art/KlREDV1IVb1A86Gvkehj7I/story.html
If this isn't some version of the Hellenic flu (and I can't think of a reason it would be), should the medical/training staff be getting asked about the in year maintenance he is using? Or not using?
Dropped fly ball? Check
Swing at first pitch with 2 out and runner going to get into scoring position for you? Check
Fall flat on your face running the bases? Check
Say "screw it" I'm not even gonna try to get in a rundown so the runner can get into scoring position? Check
What's next for Rusney?
Swing at first pitch with 2 out and runner going to get into scoring position for you? Check
Fall flat on your face running the bases? Check
Say "screw it" I'm not even gonna try to get in a rundown so the runner can get into scoring position? Check
What's next for Rusney?
HomeRunBaker said:
You should tell us, you're usually good at predicting these sorts of things.
Shouldn't the Napoli thread have taught us to be careful about jumping to conclusions early in the season?
No, his performance just frees up some energy so people can complain about Rusney now.Average Reds said:
Not jumping to conclusion about anything only pointing out how he's failed in 4 opportunities where your average little league would execute. Maybe we should ignore it as if nothing happened I dunno.Average Reds said:
I do like how he seems to be consciously going up the middle with his at bats but I agree the looking back for the play in right was a little league mistake.
It's not so much that I want to ignore it as much as I trust the club to take steps to ensure its not a continuing problem.HomeRunBaker said:
If it is a continuing problem, we'll have a different conversation and I'll be supporting you.
I'm only bringing these incidents up as I don't recall a Red Sox player in my long lifetime making so many mental blunders in a 48 hour period. As is always the case it's a test of the teams leaders to address these. It's encouraging that Lovello said that Ortiz approached Rusney, put his arm around him and let him know that "this isn't how we do things around here" as Papi addressed Rusney being on-deck the other night and not serving as a slide/stand-up guide to the runner coming home. Hopefully Papi continues helping the kid with these other situations as well.Average Reds said:
Right but then quitting on the play after getting up is inexcusable. If this was a one-off where he knows he messed up that's one thing.....he didn't show any remorse after the play and on top of multiple other bonehead plays this weekend.Stan Papi Was Framed said:
It wasn't bad luck, it was because he was looking back over his shoulder at the ball instead of relying on the third base coach. Remy pointed this out on the telecast. Do they not have third base coaches in Cuba?Stan Papi Was Framed said:
Edit - just realized Remy got autocorrected to Rent. Sorry.
Honestly this was my first thought. I assume they do but...do they? I haven't watched any Cuban baseball other than their games in international tournaments.Philip Jeff Frye said: