rodderick said:
Um, yeah. The only reason the Giants don't endlessly mention their Sung Woo is because they have more than one Korean fan, BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T SUCKED ASS FOR 30 YEARS.
Also, the Royals are owned by Walmart. Fuck Walmart.
Royals vs Giants-WS Game 1
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Um, yeah. The only reason the Giants don't endlessly mention their Sung Woo is because they have more than one Korean fan, BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T SUCKED ASS FOR 30 YEARS.
Also, the Royals are owned by Walmart. Fuck Walmart.
So, someone will also be telling us to root for the Cleveland Browns if they ever get close to a Super Bowl.Spacemans Bong said:
Spacemans Bong said:
Well, before 2010 they had sucked ass for about 56 years. Where were all the Korean Giants fans in 2010? Show me the evidence!
The amount of Korean fans can tilt the scales of this battle.
DrewDawg said:
This is nearly exactly my situation. I actually really love the city of San Francisco, I own a Giants hat because I like the city and team colors, I follow them closer than any other NL team, but the Royals' story is just so compelling. I'm torn. I suspect once the game starts my heart will win out and I'll root for the Royals, but I'll be wearing a Giants hat and contemplating the state of my decision-making paradigm.
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Another reason to maybe go for the Giants. Colon went to my high school with my little brother and there just frankly aren't that many players from Utah so this concerns me.
Yeah, I find nothing hateable or boring about the Giants--I really like them, and I like that it seems they've found a little niche for success and have taken advantage.
But they've won twice in the last five years, and I just think it'd be a trip to see the Royals win the frigging World Series. Mostly I'll just be enjoying it, I really like both these teams.
But they've won twice in the last five years, and I just think it'd be a trip to see the Royals win the frigging World Series. Mostly I'll just be enjoying it, I really like both these teams.
Spacemans Bong said:
I was driven from the curating hobby by the discerning tastes of SoSH'ers like yourself. I learned my lesson. TOGTFO forever.
E5 Yaz said:
That's a more appropriate analogy. I have no problem with a fanbase not turning out to support a sucky team. Tickets are expensive and people have better things to do than watch their team get spanked.
The fact that team was fighting for its first playoff spot in 3 decades and the fans couldn't be bothered to show up is a strike against them in my book. They'd just beaten the Tigers the night before to take back 1st place. They should have been chomping at the bit.
I am rooting for the Royals despite the fact that their victory will make so many Republicans happy. San Francisco is probably the nicest city in the U.S. of A., and Pence, Panda, and Bum are not at all boring, but their guys have won it all recently, so Go, Royals.
Lars The Wanderer said:
We are too busy clutching for our blankets when a Giant graces our TV screen to be pissed off. In fact, I'll even go on to say the Giants winning a WS is usually met with a huge and resounding "meh." No one cares and no one is pissed off.
Go Royals!
Lars The Wanderer said:
Speaking honestly now, all I've seen are people (myself included) just making fun of the Giants for being boring. No one is afraid of you guys, no one resents you for your "dominance" over the last five years. We just think the Royals are a better story. If the Giants win this, do you truly think anyone here will be bothered for even a minute? But sure, if it makes you feel better, you can continue pretending some people here dislike your team in the same manner they disliked the 90's Yankees.
Yes, I'm all about intertube opinion-based gratification regarding my local baseball squadron. :bahgawd:
Truthfully, all I think when reading this thread (and this goes for opinions about this World Series in general and not just the teams playing in it) is "Boo hoo. My favorite players/teams aren't participating. That means it is boring/ratings will suck/playoffs are a sham, etc." To that I say, shut up and watch the World fuckin' Series. This baseball season is about to end and then all we have to placate our shared interest is a bunch of rosterbation.
Truthfully, all I think when reading this thread (and this goes for opinions about this World Series in general and not just the teams playing in it) is "Boo hoo. My favorite players/teams aren't participating. That means it is boring/ratings will suck/playoffs are a sham, etc." To that I say, shut up and watch the World fuckin' Series. This baseball season is about to end and then all we have to placate our shared interest is a bunch of rosterbation.
I'm just saying...if you're going to make it a class thing, best not to be doing the most middle-class artsy thing ever.Trlicek's Whip said:
Anyway, it's 1200 bucks for a ticket on Stubhub in KC, the workin' man ain't going to be seen in big numbers at this series.
$500 for SRO in AT&T. I'm priced out of attending in person as well.
Also:
538 on the regular season being a crapshoot
Also:
538 on the regular season being a crapshoot
I'm not saying it's any better at any other ballpark in the bigs, but the times I sat in the super rich seats at ATT (thanks to random last minute next to nothing stubhub specials), I was surrounded by a combination of empty seats and empty suits, with many empty suits arriving in the 5th and leaving in the 6th. Lots in these sections are reluctant to resell what they're not using, and allowing commoners (and their commotion!) in the seats. I'd hear so many stories of companies that not only weren't using their tickets, but didn't even realize that they had them to use.
Think about it as a write-off; season tickets in the field club are still significantly less than the cost of even one average employee at a company printing money, which many of the tech companies in the bay area are doing, so wining and dining clients at 10% of the games makes up for the cost of the whole season. But that's probably the situation everywhere.
Anyway, if it goes 7, I'm thinking about hopping on a plane to KC the morning of the 29th. I'm sitting on a ticket just in case.
Think about it as a write-off; season tickets in the field club are still significantly less than the cost of even one average employee at a company printing money, which many of the tech companies in the bay area are doing, so wining and dining clients at 10% of the games makes up for the cost of the whole season. But that's probably the situation everywhere.
Anyway, if it goes 7, I'm thinking about hopping on a plane to KC the morning of the 29th. I'm sitting on a ticket just in case.
Lars The Wanderer said:
How long did it take you to build that strawman? I haven't seen a single person in this thread say the World Series will be boring/is a sham because the Red Sox aren't in it this year. It's mainly people discussing the games and who they'll be rooting for.
Spacemans Bong said:
I don't care to derail the thread, but I can easily hate on the venture capitalist wave that's hit peak odious in SF without any sense of a double standard.
1. Alcides Escobar (R) SS
2. Nori Aoki (L) RF
3. Lorenzo Cain (R) CF
4. Eric Hosmer (L) 1B
5. Billy Butler (R) DH
6. Alex Gordon (L) LF
7. Salvador Perez (R) C
8. Omar Infante (R) 2B
9. Mike Moustakas (L) 3B
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2. Joe Panik (L) 2B
3. Buster Posey (R) C
4. Pablo Sandoval (S) 3B
5. Hunter Pence (R) RF
6. Brandon Belt (L) 1B
7. Michael Morse (R) DH
8. Travis Ishikawa (L) LF
9. Brandon Crawford (L) SS
2. Nori Aoki (L) RF
3. Lorenzo Cain (R) CF
4. Eric Hosmer (L) 1B
5. Billy Butler (R) DH
6. Alex Gordon (L) LF
7. Salvador Perez (R) C
8. Omar Infante (R) 2B
9. Mike Moustakas (L) 3B
1. Gregor Blanco (L) CF
2. Joe Panik (L) 2B
3. Buster Posey (R) C
4. Pablo Sandoval (S) 3B
5. Hunter Pence (R) RF
6. Brandon Belt (L) 1B
7. Michael Morse (R) DH
8. Travis Ishikawa (L) LF
9. Brandon Crawford (L) SS
rodderick said:
I know you're having fun, but the Giants didn't exactly suck ass for 56 years. They only had one stretch of sustained sucktitude, 1972-1986. That span matches their largest playoff gap in the history of the franchise (the other being 1890-1904). Between wining the World Series in 1954 and 2010, they made it to three World Series (1962, 1989 and 2002), losing two in absolutely heartbreaking fashion and losing the third amid a devastating natural disaster (the outbreak of rally monkeyism). They also made it to the NLCS on two occasions (1971 and 1987, fuck the Cardinals) and the NLDS on three occasions (1997, 2000 and 2003). And maybe the best team the Giants had over the last 25 years, the 103-win 1993 Giants, didn't make it to the playoffs. So, while we went 50-something years between winning it all, we had plenty of other chances. We've never allowed ourselves to go 29 years without making it to the playoffs.
Also, if the amount of Korean fans tilts the scale... the San Francisco Bay Area is home to a significant Korean-American population. There are tens of thousands of people claiming Korean heritage here. The Giants have so many Korean fans, they host a Korean Heritage Night... which they've been offering every season since about 2006 or so.
Suffice to say, the Giants have a shit-ton more Korean fans than Kansas City's one.
gaelgirl said:
I had absolutely no idea San Francisco was home to many people of Korean descent, thanks for educating me on that. Obviously, I was just trying to be funny, but I actually learned something from my ignorance, which is always nice.
Regarding the Giants sucking for 56 years, I was being deliberately obtuse. I know they had made the playoffs and fielded good teams since their 1954 WS win, I was just trying to engage someone who will be rooting for them in a joking manner. Anyway, that's a good post.
The Giants have always been my NL team, thanks to Bonds and I'd love it for them to be the team to win 3 out of 5...they'd have to be done Dynasty talk, no? But on the other hand my number one Win it For guy, other than a sox guy, had always been Joe Posnanski
You want Korean Giants fans, I give you Korean Giants fans:
OK, Lotte Giants. They don't look that different from real ones though.
OK, Lotte Giants. They don't look that different from real ones though.
Ha, no worries, I know you were joking. I just couldn't let my poor Giants be thrown into the crap heap of history! We've never been as bad for as long as the Royals! 
California has a huge Asian population. There are way more Koreans in SoCal, though, mostly in LA. So I guess the Dodgers really win this Korean fan question. But fuck the Dodgers and their stupid blue faces.
And the Giants have a theme night for, like, everybody and everything. Korean Heritage Night was one of the early ones, though. Here's the 2014 list of Giants theme events: Chinese, Japanese, Filipino (twice), Irish (twice), Italian, Portuguese, Native American, Polynesian, LGBT, African-American, Star Wars, Metallica, Yoga, Boy Scouts, Girl Scouts, Firefighters, Law Enforcement, Knitters, Comic Books, Jewish, Christianity/Fellowship, Unions, Masons, Festival Gigantes (i.e., Latin/Hispanic culture), Wine (twice), Oktoberfest, Brewfest, 80s Night, Farewell to the 'Stick, Bruce Lee, Jerry Garcia, Diabetes Awareness, AIDS/Until There's A Cure, Bring your dog to the park day, the Rat Pack, Gamer Babes, Hello Kitty, Autism, Cancer, Breast Cancer, Golf, Peanut-Free Night, College Night (twice), Hotel workers, Garlic fest, Singles (twice), Pixar and Poverty Awareness.
(That's just the special events calendar. Promotions and giveaways are different!)
Basically, the Giants marketing department are whores. But they've sold out the park for like 320+ games, so I guess it works. (Not all sellouts seem like sellouts, but whatever. There are at least 25,000-30,000 people there every night, and that's pretty solid.)
California has a huge Asian population. There are way more Koreans in SoCal, though, mostly in LA. So I guess the Dodgers really win this Korean fan question. But fuck the Dodgers and their stupid blue faces.
And the Giants have a theme night for, like, everybody and everything. Korean Heritage Night was one of the early ones, though. Here's the 2014 list of Giants theme events: Chinese, Japanese, Filipino (twice), Irish (twice), Italian, Portuguese, Native American, Polynesian, LGBT, African-American, Star Wars, Metallica, Yoga, Boy Scouts, Girl Scouts, Firefighters, Law Enforcement, Knitters, Comic Books, Jewish, Christianity/Fellowship, Unions, Masons, Festival Gigantes (i.e., Latin/Hispanic culture), Wine (twice), Oktoberfest, Brewfest, 80s Night, Farewell to the 'Stick, Bruce Lee, Jerry Garcia, Diabetes Awareness, AIDS/Until There's A Cure, Bring your dog to the park day, the Rat Pack, Gamer Babes, Hello Kitty, Autism, Cancer, Breast Cancer, Golf, Peanut-Free Night, College Night (twice), Hotel workers, Garlic fest, Singles (twice), Pixar and Poverty Awareness.
(That's just the special events calendar. Promotions and giveaways are different!)
Basically, the Giants marketing department are whores. But they've sold out the park for like 320+ games, so I guess it works. (Not all sellouts seem like sellouts, but whatever. There are at least 25,000-30,000 people there every night, and that's pretty solid.)
I won't mind if the Royals win but, after the Red Sox, I prefer the Giants.
Bumgarner > Shields
Bochy >> Yost
I'll say the Giants win in five games - six at most. SF beats the KC bullpen in at least one game.
Bumgarner > Shields
Bochy >> Yost
I'll say the Giants win in five games - six at most. SF beats the KC bullpen in at least one game.
Go Royals! I picked the Giants to win since I've picked against the Royals in the last two rounds (rooted for them, but thought the Angels and Orioles would beat them) to keep the karma the same.
I hope it goes 6 or 7, but I fear it will be the Giants in 5. The Royals need to keep the magic going, but if they stumble, they cannot crumble.
I have nothing against the Giants other than the fact that their fans haven't waited 29 years for a championship as the Royals fans have.
In the battle of barbecue versus cioppino, may the ribs reign supreme! (Wouldn't you like to be watching these games while eating both?)
I hope it goes 6 or 7, but I fear it will be the Giants in 5. The Royals need to keep the magic going, but if they stumble, they cannot crumble.
I have nothing against the Giants other than the fact that their fans haven't waited 29 years for a championship as the Royals fans have.
In the battle of barbecue versus cioppino, may the ribs reign supreme! (Wouldn't you like to be watching these games while eating both?)
Cross thread post (things you only heard) Vida Blue was sitting next to George Brett when he came out of the dugout and went ballistic in the pinetar game. Anybody else ever know that? I also forgot Vida was at KC for two years.
What is Raul Ibanez's capacity on the Royals? He's a player, but not on the roster, right? Why is he in the dugout. Did he retire and get made some sort of coach, or are nonroster players on the team permitted to just hang out in the dug out?
