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‘People have told me in time that things get better. Time has not gotten things better. I still feel the same way today as I felt on the night of August 15th. We were doing a game in Toronto. I got on the team bus going to the hotel. I was notified by somebody on the bus that some reporter was trying to reach me because there was an incident, and my initial reaction was that the incident was from the night before and I didn’t pay it much mind, but then it started to bother me, so I called my wife, and she gave me the news that Jen was dead. Obviously I was in shock on the ride home from Toronto, and I apologize to the media for not being available to them at that particular time, but I was in no condition to talk about it or even imagine it.
 
‘At that particular time, as the days went on, I got away from here for about four or five days. They were hanging around the house, waiting for a comment, and I wasn’t ready to give it. I hid away at a friend’s house for four or five days. It gave us a chance a little bit to get our thoughts together, to get our emotions together, and see exactly where we were with this. It became worse and worse. The initial shock, the initial grief all got worse. There was no possible way that I felt I could come back last year to do Red Sox baseball. We had a discussion with NESN people, with the Red Sox people. They had wanted me to come back, but I couldn’t do it. They respected my wishes and said that you’d be welcome back anytime you want to come back.
 
‘During that span, I didn’t watch any games. I couldn’t tell you what happened from August 15th to the playoffs. I did watch the playoffs. I did watch the World Series. Once the World Series was over, the trickle-down effect of this tragedy was even more than I could imagine — how it affected not only the Martel family, obviously, but also how it affected our family. I just fell into a thing where every day, something was popping up that was worse than the day before. At that particular time, I was giving no thought at all to whether I was going to be back doing this, not doing it, didn’t care. If you’d asked me in November, December, if I’d be back, the answer would have been no. We were going through and are still going through issues almost on a daily basis between custody, between, obviously, my son’s upcoming trial. There’s a lot on everybody’s plate. I felt, for a couple of months, two or three months, that was over, there was no way I was coming back. I had two main concerns — obviously, what the public would think, and whether I could be myself. My answers at that time were no. I had a very small circle of friends, three very good friends of my wife who were encouraging me to reconsider the way I felt or at least give it time, give it more time. I promised them that I would do that. I couldn’t find a reason to come back. I just couldn’t find it.
 
‘Right around the turn of the year, after a miserable holiday season, that baseball clock clicks in a little bit, and people reminded me — my inner circle of friends and my wife — about my career and where it came from and where it is. I got drafted as a baseball player. I got drafted last and made it to the big leagues. I wanted to quit. My father talked me out of it. I made it to the big leagues. When I started this job — awful. I was terrible. I couldn’t wait for the first season to be over because I wanted out. I didn’t quit. I continued on for 26 years. When I got cancer, I wanted to quit. I didn’t. It threw me into a depression. I came back. I continued on. Some of these things started to resonate a little bit with me. I’ve never been a quitter, and I don’t intend to be one now. I’ve been in professional baseball in some capacity for 40 years. It’s what I do. It’s what I know. It’s where my comfort level is. It’s where I feel I belong and where I feel that I’m going to continue to do so for as long as possible.
 
‘I must say that I hope in no way that my decision to come back to do games has a negative impact on the Martel family. I’m quite certain they’ll understand that we have to make a living. Unfortunately, mine is in the public eye. I think they’ll understand that. We have spoken to the Martels. Phoebe and I have expressed our condolences to the family and to the brother and the sister-in-law. It seemed to be received. We can understand their anger. I would feel the same way.
‘It was really three friends of mine and my wife that got me off the schneid because I had been trying to tell my family that we have to move on in some capacity and live our lives, yet I was one that was resisting that. I think it’s up to me to set an example to go on and live my life. Unfortunately — well, fortunately or unfortunately — it’s in the public eye, and it makes it a little bit different than some other things.
 
Part of Remy's statement to the media.
http://fullcount.weei.com/sports/boston/baseball/red-sox/2014/01/27/jerry-remy-announces-he-will-return-to-red-sox-broadcasts-discusses-absence-after-jared-remys-arrest/
 

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I respect that he wants to get back on the horse, and I respect NESN and the Sox for continuing their support and facilitating his return. But I'm having a tough time seeing how on-air chemistry isn't drastically altered -- between him and Orsillo, and between him and the viewers. How do the spontaneous gigglefests return to the routine? The pressure on Orsillo and the producers to sense when and how to lighten the mood, and to what extent, is going to be huge.
 
And when it's time for Jared's trial (assuming it comes during the season), and all the horrors from that fateful day including new testimony and previously unreleased gory details are splattered all over the newspapers and local TV coverage, how does he not take another leave of absence at that point?
 

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Yeah. That's where I am Curll. I don't miss the Remsillo giggle show. Maybe he'll come back and provide some actual insight for a change, but I have my doubts.
 

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mabrowndog said:
And when it's time for Jared's trial (assuming it comes during the season), and all the horrors from that fateful day including new testimony and previously unreleased gory details are splattered all over the newspapers and local TV coverage, how does he not take another leave of absence at that point?
 
Yeah, I have to assume this is baked into the agreement.  Eck is sitting by the bullpen phone waiting for the trial to begin.  Bring in the righty.
 

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Whether you love or hate Remy in the booth, that's as powerful and heartfelt a statement as you will ever see. 
 

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OilCanShotTupac said:
Whether you love or hate Remy in the booth, that's as powerful and heartfelt a statement as you will ever see. 
 
sounds as real as it could possibly be - I was really feeling his pain reading that
 

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Whether you love or hate Remy in the booth, that's as powerful and heartfelt a statement as you will ever see. 
 
Yes, he could have put out two sentences, expressing sympathy for the Martell family and saying he had to get back to work, but he really put all his pain and anguish out there.
 

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Agreed. That statement, along with the honesty and candor with which he spoke about his son's actions and the sit down that he had with TC discussing his cancer and depression issues really has me rooting for Remy as a human being.
 

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Unless Jerry is somehow using the money he makes this season to build a time machine to go back and stop his son from brutally murdering the mother of his granddaughter... this doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me.
 
Spring training will be an interesting test. I wonder if (like Corsi said) having someone like Eck to be able to throw in there (assuming he doesn't mind the travel) makes it that much easier for REMDAWG to try this? Based on his statment, he was very close to quitting just last week? I could see him seeing the writing on the wall in March and calling it a career.
 

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As far as watching the games, this is not good news. Remy has not added anything to the NESN broadcasts for several seasons. His on-air contributions are nothing more than describing exactly what we see on the replay, which is of absolutely no value. We can tell that the ball was hit on the ground into left field .... Or even worse, he simply repeats Orsillo's play-by-play in slightly different words. He does almost nothing else.
 

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Unless Jerry is somehow using the money he makes this season to build a time machine to go back and stop his son from brutally murdering the mother of his granddaughter... this doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me.
 
There's nothing he can do to erase the murder. Working may allow him to get it off his mind at least SOME of the time.
 
Sometimes you need a normal routine. I think this will help Remy stay sane. If his wife doesn't work, I would think she would need something (volunteer work?) to help her get through it, especially when Jerry is on the road.
 

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Hopefully most of the money goes into a trust for his granddaughter.
I would hope the Martels get custody unless they are a fckd up family
 

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Jesus, that's one of the most painful things I've read in a while. 
 
From a human perspective, I'm not sure how you can deal with one of your kids doing something that terrible, and how it's possible to function, even a little, on a daily basis.  To the extent that working gives Jerry some distraction, provided it doesn't haunt the Martels, I'm all for it as a human being.
 
As a baseball fan, however, I'm not sure this is going to work.  Even if he can keep his pain from trickling over into his broadcasting, I'm not sure I can keep the knowledge of his family life from trickling over into my viewing experience.  When Don and Jerry are giggling about something, rather than just being tired of it, I thing there's going to be a part of me that thinks "How can he be laughing after what his son did?"  I don't know that this is fair, but it's probably true.  That said, that's me and how I think.  Everytime I see a Sox crowd celebrating a series win, I think back to poor Victoria Snelgrove...
 

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It sounds like the trial won't be until October at the earliest, and maybe later than that, so that eliminates the conflict. I think this year you're going to get a Remy who focused mostly on the game at hand, which might actually make him a better analyst than he's been in a while. I think Don is going to be hugely sensitive about how Jerry is perceived, which means the "gigglefests" are probably over.
 
I wish he wasn't doing this. I think he would be better served not coming back, but what the hell do I know?
 

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That was a very real statement.  Jerry has always come across as a sincere, no BS person, so that's in keeping with who he seems to be.
 
But I join those who are not excited to see him back.  I think that many of the color guys they used in Jerry's spot last season are simply better, and that Don is better with them than he is with Jerry.  Also, I agree with Dog and others.  The laughing boy stuff is going to be weird in the context of the trial.
 
Tough situation.  Could the Sox have said no?  Should they have?
 

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Jesus, that's one of the most painful things I've read in a while. 
 
From a human perspective, I'm not sure how you can deal with one of your kids doing something that terrible, and how it's possible to function, even a little, on a daily basis.  To the extent that working gives Jerry some distraction, provided it doesn't haunt the Martels, I'm all for it as a human being.
 
As a baseball fan, however, I'm not sure this is going to work.  Even if he can keep his pain from trickling over into his broadcasting, I'm not sure I can keep the knowledge of his family life from trickling over into my viewing experience.  When Don and Jerry are giggling about something, rather than just being tired of it, I thing there's going to be a part of me that thinks "How can he be laughing after what his son did?"  I don't know that this is fair, but it's probably true.  That said, that's me and how I think.  Everytime I see a Sox crowd celebrating a series win, I think back to poor Victoria Snelgrove...
 
Yeah, this.
 
On the one hand, it's pathetic to even mention that the whole specter is hanging over our sports watching because it's just so goddamn trivial. On the other hand, I think it is inevitible.
 
And on the third hand, I don't think there are any good options.
 

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Jesus, that's one of the most painful things I've read in a while. 
 
From a human perspective, I'm not sure how you can deal with one of your kids doing something that terrible, and how it's possible to function, even a little, on a daily basis.  To the extent that working gives Jerry some distraction, provided it doesn't haunt the Martels, I'm all for it as a human being.
 
As a baseball fan, however, I'm not sure this is going to work.  Even if he can keep his pain from trickling over into his broadcasting, I'm not sure I can keep the knowledge of his family life from trickling over into my viewing experience.  When Don and Jerry are giggling about something, rather than just being tired of it, I thing there's going to be a part of me that thinks "How can he be laughing after what his son did?"  I don't know that this is fair, but it's probably true.  That said, that's me and how I think.  Everytime I see a Sox crowd celebrating a series win, I think back to poor Victoria Snelgrove...
 
I think the bolded underlines how much of a no-win scenario this is for Remy. Whether that sentiment is reasonable or not, (personally, I think it's going a bit too far) at some point it's going to force him to make a really tough decision. He would have been better off just staying away. Now he may be forced to have to walk away amongst a much larger amount of scrutiny than he otherwise would have if he'd just announced his retirement today.
 

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Without getting into the moral issues about him coming back or the issue of whether he is a good or bad announcer, the my impression from this is he is really does not want to come back, but is only doing so out of a sense of obligation.  I do not think that portends well for the future.   
 

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That statement sounds pretty good until you read the q&a and then re-read it.
 
He has spoken to his daughter-in-law's parents ONCE since she was killed, and that was in the courtroom at a hearing.  Is it really so hard to give them a call to say that you're going back on the air, rather than making them learn about it from the media?  
 
He is apparently contesting who gets custody of his granddaughter (or at the very least, did not back down when the Martels petitioned for custody).
 
He talks about being "embarrassed" to go out.  You should be "ashamed," Jerry, not "embarrassed."
 
What's he been doing with this money?  He must reference his need for money at least 3 times.    
 
I also think his attitude toward his son is awful.  Shouldn't he decry his actions in the strongest possible terms?  "This isn't how he was raised," "I cannot believe my own flesh and blood could be capable of something like this," etc.  Instead he says "well, we tried our best, but he has issues and things ended badly."  His lack of statements about his son being an abomination suggests he's trying to help his son get a better deal at trial, which is indefensible.
 

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I'm not sure why he'd be coming back out of a sense of obligation. I think he's probably coming back because the alternative is to be stuck indefinitely in a horrible place because of something he had no part in or control over. Maybe it's too soon, but that's his call to make. If this is what he needs to feel like a human being again, more power to him. I hope he does giggle in the booth. Why the hell shouldn't he, if he can?
 
I agree that Eck is a better guy in the booth at this point, and as a Sox fan and game-watcher I'm not turning cartwheels over this news. But  I can't blame Remy for wanting to get back to his job. Good luck and healing to him, whether he ends up sticking with it or not.
 

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I also think his attitude toward his son is awful.  Shouldn't he decry his actions in the strongest possible terms?  "This isn't how he was raised," "I cannot believe my own flesh and blood could be capable of something like this," etc.  Instead he says "well, we tried our best, but he has issues and things ended badly."  His lack of statements about his son being an abomination suggests he's trying to help his son get a better deal at trial, which is indefensible.
For whose benefit? For him to acknowledge the nature of the case (slam-dunk guilty) was, I thought, a surprisingly open comment for a guy who's certain to be a witness in a forthcoming trial, if there is a trial [I am not following the legal proceedings but I'm not sure why Jared wouldn't plead guilty], and in a more likely sentencing phase. Beyond that, I would never second guess him in this regard myself. How does one decry their own son at all? [/shakespearean tragedy]
 

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For whose benefit? For him to acknowledge the nature of the case (slam-dunk guilty) was, I thought, a surprisingly open comment for a guy who's certain to be a witness in a forthcoming trial, if there is a trial [I am not following the legal proceedings but I'm not sure why Jared wouldn't plead guilty], and in a more likely sentencing phase. Beyond that, I would never second guess him in this regard myself. How does one decry their own son at all? [/shakespearean tragedy]
 
I don;t see how you can't just think about this tragedy every time you turn on the TV and Remy is there saying "Buenos Tardes Amigos!" Hell, when I come through Logan when I travel back to Boston and see his bar in Terminal C I immediately think of this nightmare. Maybe its just me but there is brand value and reputational risk, especially in sports and entertainment. I can't see how having him around is not tarnishing that at NESN to some degree.
 
 As for the trial, what is he going to plead to?? They charged him with Murder 1. With no death penalty in MA the prosecution is not going to plead this down to Manslaughter or Murder 2 giving him the remote chance of walking the streets someday. The DA's office is already in a bind given the restraining order debacle. They aren't cutting him any breaks going forward.  The only benefit of a plea on Remy's side is to avoid the daily drumbeat of trial coverage. He has nothing to lose by going to trial. The whole thing is deplorable in my opinion.
 

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That statement sounds pretty good until you read the q&a and then re-read it.
 
He has spoken to his daughter-in-law's parents ONCE since she was killed, and that was in the courtroom at a hearing.  Is it really so hard to give them a call to say that you're going back on the air, rather than making them learn about it from the media?  
 
He is apparently contesting who gets custody of his granddaughter (or at the very least, did not back down when the Martels petitioned for custody).
 
He talks about being "embarrassed" to go out.  You should be "ashamed," Jerry, not "embarrassed."
 
What's he been doing with this money?  He must reference his need for money at least 3 times.    
 
I also think his attitude toward his son is awful.  Shouldn't he decry his actions in the strongest possible terms?  "This isn't how he was raised," "I cannot believe my own flesh and blood could be capable of something like this," etc.  Instead he says "well, we tried our best, but he has issues and things ended badly."  His lack of statements about his son being an abomination suggests he's trying to help his son get a better deal at trial, which is indefensible.
 
I think you're being harsh. 
 
Remember, Jerry Remy is innocent in this - the sins of the son don't get visited on the father either.  Even if he was a shitty father - which I'm not granting, I don't know - you can't blame him for an act of murder committed by his son.
 
About contacting the Martels to tell them about his decision to come back: one, we don't know what was said in that single meeting; two, any contact has to be incredibly painful, for all involved. Remy said that their condolences "seemed to be received" by the Martels and that "We can understand their anger. I would feel the same way."  It doesn't sound to me like the Martels would necessarily welcome any more contact.
 
I also have no problem with him petitioning the court for custody of his granddaughter.  We don't know all the facts.  There are two other parties making the same petition; I would presume one to be the Martels, but we don't know.  I would do the exact same thing.  First, I would want to provide for her, out of love for her, and, sure, out of a wish to atone.  Second, she's going to know what happened one day, and I would want her to know that, despite the fact that my son killed her mother (my blood runs cold just typing it), that I loved her and wanted to care for her.  Frankly, again, if it were me, I wouldn't expect to get custody.  But I wouldn't not make the application.
 
Embarrased vs. ashamed?  That's splitting hairs. 
 
Re: needing money: he's made a shitload of money, sure.  He is also paying the bills simultaneously for a murder trial and for cancer treatment.  Even with great insurance, that's likely many thousands of out-of-pocket costs.  Plus Christ knows what else.
 
And about his attitude toward his son: it's not "indefensible."  Real life is not so black-and-white.  He condemns his son plenty.  As a father, I think about my own daughter being in that position someday (she's only 3).  It must be agonizing.  I can't say for sure what I would do - who can? - but I think that, without excusing my child's behavior - which Remy does not do - I would still help him or her, as best as I could.  When I saw the OB/GYN nurse rip that kid out of my wife, I kind of got the picture that I had signed up for that, for life. 
 
YMMV.  There's no objectively right answer.  If you want to damn Remy for Remy not damning his kid enough, you're free to do so.  I can't.
 

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For whose benefit? For him to acknowledge the nature of the case (slam-dunk guilty) was, I thought, a surprisingly open comment for a guy who's certain to be a witness in a forthcoming trial, if there is a trial [I am not following the legal proceedings but I'm not sure why Jared wouldn't plead guilty], and in a more likely sentencing phase. Beyond that, I would never second guess him in this regard myself. How does one decry their own son at all? [/shakespearean tragedy]
 
Read in context with his prior reference to asking his son's attorney where things stand, and given his repeated references to needing money, I read "This is not a case where you’re trying to get away for murder." to mean "It's going to be tough for him, but we're doing what we can to get a better sentence."  I did not read it as "he's as good as guilty of Murder 1."  
 
OCST:  You say "he condemns his son plenty."  I wholeheartedly disagree.  
 
Also, you say "Jerry Remy is innocent in this"  No, he's not:  
 
Patty Martel said her daughter did not press to renew the restraining order at the request of the Remy family. Jennifer had spoken to Remy’s mother, who begged her not to file any kind of complaint because it would ruin Remy’s life; she also told Jennifer they would protect her, Patty Martel said.
 
 
I don't think you can read about the case and not think Remy has blood on his hands.  I'll stop now, because this is an emotional thing and it's hard to talk about it objectively.  I won't enjoy Remy being back on the air, and I don't think he's shown nearly the amount of contrition he should.
 

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"Son or not, I am at a loss for words articulating my disgust and remorse over this senseless and tragic act."
 
If you can't imagine what it was like to write and publish that sentence--if you can't fathom that it must have felt like vomiting concentrated sulfuric acid over and over for a month--then we are coming at this situation from two very different places.
 
I guess I just can't grasp how anyone would judge anybody but Jared Remy here.
 

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I guess I just can't grasp how anyone would judge anybody but Jared Remy here.
 
Really, you don't judge the people who told Jared Remy's wife that they'd protect her if she didn't file a police report against him?  
 
Now I'm really done. 
 

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Really, you don't judge the people who told Jared Remy's wife that they'd protect her if she didn't file a police report against him?  
 
Now I'm really done. 
 
I would assume, until proven otherwise, that they were in denial, and grasping at straws. They wanted to think their kid was reachable and the situation was fixable. I'm not saying they didn't fuck up--as did the police, who could have held Jared Remy regardless of Jenn Martel's choices--I'm saying that I have no reason to assume they didn't fuck up from human and pitiable motives. There but for the grace of god, et cetera. (I won't belabor the point that the news accounts specify that it was Phoebe Remy, not Jerry, who called Jenn to ask her not to press the complaint, but FWIW it's true.)
 

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This is unwelcome news, but as for how it will work out, we will have to see. It's extremely important, in my opinion, that Jerry Remy make NO statements on NESN, before, during, or after games, about his personal situation. If he just sticks to the games, focussing on the players and the play, and, especially, if the giggling disappears, it may work out all right. 
 
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I like Remy the announcer, and I never really minded the giggle fests, but I'm kind of surprised that he came back. I also have to wonder what it will be like for Remy when the team goes on the road.
 

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nattysez said:
 
Really, you don't judge the people who told Jared Remy's wife that they'd protect her if she didn't file a police report against him?  
 
Now I'm really done. 
As Savin Hillbilly states, it was Phoebe Remy and not Jerry who asked that the Martels not extend the restraining order. In addition,  the proper authorities could have made the issue moot by locking up Jared Remy. Finally, in the worst imaginations, I do not think anyone could have predicted the situation would turn out as horribly as it did.  With the power of 20/20 hindsight, it is easy to condemn Phoebe or Jerry for their actions prior to the murder. Without knowing the outcome, could you honestly say that you would  not do everything to protect your offspring?
 P.S. On the other hand, I am not a strong supporter of Jerry returning to the booth. I just think it will lead to a lot of awkward situations. Perhaps Jerry will leave the gigglefests alone and just concentrate on the games , but I am not confident. Plus, I think that many of the announcers NESN used as fill ins last year, Eck in particular, did an outstanding job and not a beat was missed.   
 

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I don't understand this anti-giggle idea. Is he supposed to be stoic for the rest of his adult life because his son is a murdering psychopath? If he's going to return to public life, he's going to do what he always did, which is call games and make the audience laugh.
 

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Maybe I'm just insensitive, but I'm failing to see how the 'gigglefests' are somehow going to be distasteful. I can see Remy maybe not being in the mood to try to be giggly, but if something tickles his funny bone, so what if he laughs at or with Orsillo?

I'm not saying I missed the gigglefests or want to see them return, but I also don't see why Remy has to be a sullen zombie for the rest of his days either. If he's returning to the booth to do his old job, I expect him to be the Remdawg, for better or worse. His career shouldn't stop just because his son turned out to be a raging murderous scumbag asshole.
 

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Without getting into the moral issues about him coming back or the issue of whether he is a good or bad announcer, the my impression from this is he is really does not want to come back, but is only doing so out of a sense of obligation.  I do not think that portends well for the future.   
I agree with this. I will add that while no one wants to be seen as a quitter, there is not a human being on Earth who would blame Remy for "quitting" in this situation. Beyond his son, he's 61 and he has had health issues. How much longer would he have continued in the best of circumstances? If you need something to take your mind off things, I dunno, there are all sorts of hobbies. If he needs the money (I hope not, but maybe), he can write yet another book or just be a studio personality or something.
 

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Highly respect NESN and Remy for not standing with his son.
 
However, just purely from a NESN viewer's point of view, this is a disappointing development. Like many others I really enjoyed Eck, Lowe, and others who joined the booth. Hell, I can't remember anyone I enjoyed less than Remy. 
 
An opportunity lost. 
 

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If his health holds up, Remy will work something like 150 games this season, not counting Spring Training. He's going to become part of the scenery again; after a few weeks, people will forget about his son until the trial rolls around.
 

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If his health holds up, Remy will work something like 150 games this season, not counting Spring Training. He's going to become part of the scenery again; after a few weeks, people will forget about his son until the trial rolls around.
I agree with this.  And his personality while doing games will be just what it's always been.
 
I like Remy as an announcer.  I think he's better than 90% of the local analysts around the league.  And while Eck is a terrific break, I think he's too schticky for a full season.  I, for one, am happy to have him back, and I think it will be very good therapy for him.
 

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Interesting range of opinions and emotions in the thread here.  Ultimately, Jared Remy is responsible for his actions.  It's easy to be a Monday Morning Quarterback here and second guess all of it.  A lot could and should have been done by MANY not just Jerry Remy.  Jerry's "job" happens to be a high profile one.  To prevent him from working at his job does not make sense either.  It's understandably difficult beyond imagination for all involved but as harsh as it may sound, life does go on.  Like him or not; he is entitled to live and work.
 

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Did this come from the Red Sox? Is it possible he's angling for a buyout by announcing his intention to return?
 

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Did this come from the Red Sox? Is it possible he's angling for a buyout by announcing his intention to return?


Considering Remy addressed the media at NESN studios, I think the Sox/NESN is on board with his return.
 

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You know, he's just the color man for Sox broadcasts. People are investing way too much in this. If he wants to come back and NESN wants him back, so be it. I can separate him from his son.
 

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Savin Hillbilly said:
 
I would assume, until proven otherwise, that they were in denial, and grasping at straws. They wanted to think their kid was reachable and the situation was fixable. I'm not saying they didn't fuck up--as did the police, who could have held Jared Remy regardless of Jenn Martel's choices--I'm saying that I have no reason to assume they didn't fuck up from human and pitiable motives. There but for the grace of god, et cetera. (I won't belabor the point that the news accounts specify that it was Phoebe Remy, not Jerry, who called Jenn to ask her not to press the complaint, but FWIW it's true.)
 
Savin Hillbilly said:
"Son or not, I am at a loss for words articulating my disgust and remorse over this senseless and tragic act."
 
If you can't imagine what it was like to write and publish that sentence--if you can't fathom that it must have felt like vomiting concentrated sulfuric acid over and over for a month--then we are coming at this situation from two very different places.
 
I guess I just can't grasp how anyone would judge anybody but Jared Remy here.
 
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As Savin Hillbilly states, it was Phoebe Remy and not Jerry who asked that the Martels not extend the restraining order. In addition,  the proper authorities could have made the issue moot by locking up Jared Remy. Finally, in the worst imaginations, I do not think anyone could have predicted the situation would turn out as horribly as it did.  With the power of 20/20 hindsight, it is easy to condemn Phoebe or Jerry for their actions prior to the murder. Without knowing the outcome, could you honestly say that you would  not do everything to protect your offspring?
 
Their "kid" was 34 years old and had a 13 year history of violence against women.  As in, beating the living shit out of women he was involved with romantically.  If you think Phoebe Remy acted alone with no consultation with her husband in asking Martel not to cooperate and can't even grasp how anyone would judge anybody but Jared Remy here, or how anyone could have predicted that the 'roid head who liked to beat up women might have decided to retaliate against the woman who got him charged, then your imaginations are poor, stunted things.
 
And, under the current Massachusetts bail statute, release on personal recognizance is the default position except in rare cases after a dangerousness hearing that typically don't include simple domestic violence, especially when the victim is unwilling to cooperate.  But let's not let facts get in the way of us doing our best to bend over backwards to avoid putting blame on the people who raised the woman-beater and murderer and putting it instead on the "police" and "proper authorities".
 

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mauidano said:
Interesting range of opinions and emotions in the thread here.  Ultimately, Jared Remy is responsible for his actions.  It's easy to be a Monday Morning Quarterback here and second guess all of it.  A lot could and should have been done by MANY not just Jerry Remy.  Jerry's "job" happens to be a high profile one.  To prevent him from working at his job does not make sense either.  It's understandably difficult beyond imagination for all involved but as harsh as it may sound, life does go on
Does it, now?
 

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I don't understand the reasoning or logic behind the theory that Jerry Remy shouldn't broadcast games because his son committed a heinous crime.

Should he be a defendant in a wrongful death civil suit? Or charged criminally? Of course not, because there's no legitimate connection.