Red Sox sign David Price
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7/$217. Monster deal. Biggest in team history, obviously.
Adding, I can't believe how quickly and quietly this happened. Where are the four days of leaks to some kid in Missouri? Gotta admire the professionalism of the Dombrowski era so far.
Adding, I can't believe how quickly and quietly this happened. Where are the four days of leaks to some kid in Missouri? Gotta admire the professionalism of the Dombrowski era so far.
Wow. I didn't want to actually believe they were serious contenders to sign any of the top FA pitchers until it happened. It has happened. Just wow. The money is ridiculous and stupid, but oh well.
I was absolutely on board with the strategy of refusing to sign 30-plus pitchers to long-term contracts, focusing on rotation depth, and looking for a cost-controlled ace-in-waiting via trade. And if we were going to abandon that strategy, I wish we could have done it a year ago and signed Lester.
That said: It's not my money, Price absolutely improves the team a ton, and I'm excited to be able to root for him. So, screw it. I'll applaud.
That said: It's not my money, Price absolutely improves the team a ton, and I'm excited to be able to root for him. So, screw it. I'll applaud.
Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal 1m1 minute ago
Confirmed: Price deal with #RedSox is seven years, $217M. No deferred money. Three-year opt-out.
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Confirmed: Price deal with #RedSox is seven years, $217M. No deferred money. Three-year opt-out.
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Need 30 WAR to make it an average value, right? His career WAR stands now at 29.2 (bWAR) or 32.0 (fWAR). Likely overpay, but hopefully not by too too much.
So who gets bumped from the rotation?
Price
Buchholz
Porcello
Miley
Kelly
Edro
There's always the chance Clay could be traded, but I've never been convinced that injury history is predictive, and when healthy he can be tremendous. It would be a crime if EdRo starts the year in Pawtucket. I guess they trade Miley or move Kelly to the bullpen.
Price
Buchholz
Porcello
Miley
Kelly
Edro
There's always the chance Clay could be traded, but I've never been convinced that injury history is predictive, and when healthy he can be tremendous. It would be a crime if EdRo starts the year in Pawtucket. I guess they trade Miley or move Kelly to the bullpen.
Absolutely the right move IMO. Always better to pay top price for the guys with no warts than go halfway and end up with the Pablo Sandovals of the world.
Why? It just means that the only way we'll keep him beyond 2018 is if it's a clear four-year overpay.
No player is going to agree to a team opt-out on a deal like that, so of course it's his choice.
No surprise
Welcome to Boston Mr Price.
So is the take away the "Don't sign 30+ pitcher to LT deals" a LL mantra?
Welcome to Boston Mr Price.
So is the take away the "Don't sign 30+ pitcher to LT deals" a LL mantra?
Yeah but we all know this is going to restart the opt out debate even though you're 110% correct.
I'm sure they will if it looks like he's going to be a good value the last four years of the contract, but those are the exact circumstances under which he'll opt out.
Not saying the opt-out ruins the deal, but it's clearly in his favor, not ours.
HO LEE FUK!!!! If he pitches well enough in the first three years to think he can get more by opting out, that could be a huge win for both sides.
The only way they will keep him is if they want to lose him. The only way they will lose him is if they want to keep him. That's how optouts work.
Well, I guess we're going to have to find something new to argue about.
Spending all the money is a pretty unimaginative and only sometimes successful plan. But at least if you spend it you get the best guy out there. Now hope his arm stays together.
Sox Stats @redsoxstats 1m1 minute ago
The Red Sox are the best in sports at changing their organizational philosophy on yearly basis.
The Red Sox are the best in sports at changing their organizational philosophy on yearly basis.
Not saying it's in the team's favor either. But I don't see the harm of it so long as they don't put themselves in the position the Yankees did with both A-Rod and Sabathia and *need* to re-sign him if he opts out. Hopefully by then, they'll have alternative options.
Is the opt-out mutual? Because that is good. If it's only Price's option, then it sucks.
Or he pitches three great years and opts out and signs with The Dodgers for big money at 33. I'd be happy with that.The only way they will keep him is if they want to lose him. The only way they will lose him is if they want to keep him. That's how optouts work.
Well, I guess we're going to have to find something new to argue about.
Financially it's in his favor but it's also in our favor if he's good enough to wanna test the FA waters again
The harm is that it takes away all of the upside potential for the team. If he's worth more he'll opt out and they'll lose a valuable below-market asset. Price has all of the upside in this deal.
100% it's on Price's end only. Might be one way they got him to sign this early.
Sure it's good for Price, but for the Sox it's no worse than no opt-out. Either we are stuck with the 7/217 we agreed to in the first place, or we get 4/7ths of it back because someone is willing to even more grossly overpay a 34-year-old pitcher. The only potential downside for the Sox IMHO is if he's a 34-y.o. Cliff Lee and we wish we could just keep him at the original price. But even there, it would mean we got three excellent years from him.
I hope he's the best pitcher in baseball for 3 years and I hope he opts out. We'll take that back end money and spend it on the next "David Price 7 year/gazillion" and give that guy an opt out.
Love this!
Love this!
The next time I see a mutual option it will be the first time.
Why would a player ever agree to a mutual option?
Red Sox Stats @redsoxstats 2m2 minutes ago
"I'm going to come in and get an Ace, a back end arm and a 4th outfielder." - Dombrowski Price, Kimbrel, Young. Well then.
"I'm going to come in and get an Ace, a back end arm and a 4th outfielder." - Dombrowski Price, Kimbrel, Young. Well then.
I was on record saying it would take 8 years and $250 million to lure him to Boston. This deal seems about right for the pitcher and this winter's market. The fact that he signed so soon says to me that his hesitancy about pitching in Boston was overblown. If he didn't want to come her he could have easily waited and got a similar deal from several other clubs, in my opinion.
If it were mutual then they'd be calling it a three-year, $93M deal with four option years.
Agree but what are the odds that his age 34-37 years are below market at $31m per? Not great.
We got our ace! 217 million is a lot though. Its not my money, but if Price is ever injured the deal looks bad quickly.
Marcus Stroman @MStrooo6 3m3 minutes ago
Wow.
Taijuan Walker @tai_walker 52s52 seconds ago
WOW!
he just set the market for pitchers
Wow.
Taijuan Walker @tai_walker 52s52 seconds ago
WOW!
he just set the market for pitchers