And the guy they didn’t signed papered a deal that could easily be viewed as the worst contract given out this off season.
And to expand on this….
Or they just need to adopt a policy of "fuck the Boston media and all of its insane Pete Abe/CHB bullshit"
I think that’s really overstating things , it begs the question “or what?”
Thats pretty much how i read it....."TYPE of trade they are POSITIONED to make" rather than they should have made that specific deal.
Eh, I don’t know. I think the Toxic Idiocy levels are far higher in some markets than others
I live in Seattle and it's nowhere near Boston levels, though they have their moments.
This seems so obviously false.
How does it seem obviously false? They did the same things to Bogaerts in the offseason before free agency.
Jared has as many or more sources than reporters that cover the team. It's easy to crap on someone because you may disagree with what they say. If you remember, back in the season there were reports that the Red Sox would use the Austin Riley contract as a comp for Devers(10/212). It is not rocket science to think that they were in or around $230 million currently. Reading the room is something the Red Sox ownership is famous for and there was enough pushback to not let Devers go for Henry to put all his cards on the table and get the deal done.
Do you have any evidence of this?
No, it’s not rocket science. It’s informed speculation. Riley and Devers are comparable players.
100%, I didn't take this as any sort of player specific suggestion or knock on the team. I see it as pointing out a parallel situation. Not all fans may be aware of the number crunch that the Sox face pertaining to the 40 man.
It seems wildly unlikely that the front office decided to up their offer by $100 million in response to fan discontent. Moreover, I don't think the timeline to iron out the details lines up (do we think that they reached agreements on no trade and opt outs before reaching an agreement on salary/years?). But, let's assume all the speculation is true. Bravo and well done to the front office. Because they ended up with the best long term deal of this off season.
Sox negotiations never leak, but I'm sure he had exact numbers on the biggest negotiation the Sox have had in the last several years.
I think they needed to sign Devers and they did. I think they could be competitive but they could easily finish fourth in the division and miss the playoffs. They probably know that. I think if they are non-competitive in 2023 they will put a lot of pressure on themselves for 2024.
He's very close with a lot of the players on the Red Sox roster and due to him doing a national baseball podcast he's got extensive contacts around the league.
Or maybe they preferred Price all along and that was part of their overall strategic plan. In fact, I'd say likely.
I will also add that Carrabis was not the only non-traditional media personality to learn of this deal beforehand. Steve Perrault explained on his podcast that one of his sources reached out to him and told him that the Devers deal was done before it was announced.
People can believe whatever they want. But it’s a nicely timed piece of “inside information” that fits the anti-Bloom narrative from a guy that isn’t an insider. But still more of the it wasn’t Bloom decision (Devers) and/or it was the only decision (Mayer).
Did either of these guys say anything about the deal being done before it was announced? Or did they just claim after the fact without any evidence that they knew before?
If you followed either of those guys on Twitter, you would have seen that they knew something about it before it was reported by Passan et al.
Great, there has been fan backlash for 2 years yet somehow Henry ignored all that until just this week
Too bad they don’t host the Winter Classic again next year so they could sign Ohtani.
This is true for a lot of the comparisons, which isn't great at first glance.
The Sox were more than just competitive in 2021! They made it to within 2 games of the World Series, yet the fan base was by and large unimpressed. I don't think the "blood in the water" sentiment is overstated at all, but rather, an honest take on reality. The Red Sox aren't taking the big market approach of leading the league in spending on free agents and decimating the farm system in trades, and a lot of people are unhappy about this!
While I agree with the sentiment, the new "big market approach" is spending on some free agents but also building a legit pipeline on the farm so that you're not constantly paying market rate for WAR at every position. This is clearly what the Red Sox are also trying to do, along with most of the other big market teams.
At the end of May/early June in '22, if the Yankees weren't off on some hyper insane record, the Sox would have actually appeared to be more in the mix than they ended up being too. At that point, there were 3 weak spots on the team- Dalbec, JBJ and the bullpen- that weren't going to be fixed by Chris Sale to the rescue (and even then... that would have pushed one of the starters to the bullpen to help out there some). The fact that between mid June and mid July almost every starter and any good BP arm went down, Story got injured and JDM started playing like crap.
Glad they resigned him . My favorite current Red Sox player. Gives me hope for the future.
Betts sucked but I understood. Bogaerts was sad but I get it. I would’ve been profoundly disappointed if they couldn’t make it work with Raffy. I’m glad that regardless of whatever else happens over the next decade, we’ll get to watch our homegrown star smoking balls into the bullpen and looking like a kid out there for the duration.
It really is a pretty team friendly deal considering how young he is and where the market is at right now.
Yeah, at 29m it would have been really hard to stay under the threshold this year, especially now that they need another infielder. They're 10-15m under right now after they deal with the arb guys, so they should be able to make one more decent size signing and get close, but not over, and have the flexibility to decide mid season what they want to do.
Completely agree with all of this, especially the Henry portions. The Devers contract is a fair contract. In the end, it’s good business no matter how it came to be
IOW..there were at least "reasons" for Betts and X. (One may find them unsatisfactory, but they were real). There really weren't any in Devers's case.
FWIW--It was announced yesterday that he wouldn't be there. Regardless, lets jump to the worst possible conclusion about it. He's a coward? He didn't really want to do the deal? He's afraid of getting booed again? Maybe all of the above? Or maybe he has the flu? Or a kidney stone?
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