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Strus must be really glad DA floated him a couple (few?) hundred thousand dollars for being a good soldier in camp/summer league. Hope that buys some future goodwill with Strus and/or other undrafted folks.
 

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Delaware has a kid almost as tall as Tacko
That must be Christ Koumadje, from Florida State via Chad. He has annoyingly matched up against Tacko a few times in summer league/pre-season/G-league. I was reading Masai Ujiri talking about scouting in Africa and he mentioned that if you go to certain parts of Africa, you will see just 7-footers walking around all the time. He was insistent that NBA scouts had just reached the tip of the iceberg when it comes to talent coming out of Africa, certain tribes are extraordinary tall and will produce much, much more talent once more investments in the game are made.
 

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Less than 30 seconds left in the game, another fabulous pinching victory! ;D

Baby Celtics stats read as:

Edwards
37 min, 23 points, 4 rebounds, 3 assists. Shot 10-21, 2-8 on 3 pointers.

Waters
37 min, 18 points, 4 rebounds, 11 assists. Shot 7-16, 2-6 on 3 pointers.

Fall
25 min, 13 points, 12 rebounds, 1 assists, 4 blocks. Shot 5-8, 2-6 on FT.
 

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Waters made some unreal passes. But he has to improve his defense. He's quick enough to stay in front of his man, but he seems unwilling to take a charge. He's defending from the side, like Rondo did when he didn't give a damn.
 

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Waters made some unreal passes. But he has to improve his defense. He's quick enough to stay in front of his man, but he seems unwilling to take a charge. He's defending from the side, like Rondo did when he didn't give a damn.
From what I've seen, Waters gambles a lot and so does Edwards. They are racking up the steals in the G league.


Season stats
Waters 15 games: 33.0 minutes, .442/.381/.792 (7.9 3PA/G), 20.4 points, 3.2 rebounds, 7.7 assists, 3.4 TO, 2.3 steals
Edwards 5 games: 35.0 minutes, .457/.261/.692 (9.2 3PA/G) 22.0 points, 5.0 rebounds, 3.4 assists, 3.2 TO, 2.6 steals

I said it before and took some grief for it but I'll say it again, I'm not sure Edwards is all that better a shooter than Waters, at least in game. He may have been in college but 9 months can change a lot.

I realize it could just be shot selection and role too. I don't think Waters is a better shooter than Edwards either, I just don't think he's materially worse. I don't think either one is really going to move the needle one way or the other though. They may develop into ok but fungible players. Good on a rookie deal, not so much after.
 

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A day late, but what the heck. Stats for baby Celtics from the Pincer-Clipper game, which the cruising crustaceans won 112 to 109.

Mr. Edwards
35 minutes, 21 points, 5 rebounds, 3 assists. Mr. Efficient he was not, going 8-23 and 3-10 from 3 point land.

Mr. Fall
24 minutes, 11 points, 7 rebound,s 2 assists, and SIX blocks. He was 4-5 from the field and 2-5 in FT.

For all you Tacko-philes, here are his highlights.

Tacko shows a hook shot.

 
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I watched a bit of the game and thought Fall was a bit slow reacting to some plays. That may simply be a need for more experience/training. I mean, he didn't grow up on a basketball court.
 

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Some YTD numbers for the Red Claws for the "Big 3":

Carsen Edwards (6 games): 43.6% from floor, 26.8% from three. He's near 60% on 2PT shots though, and averaging 21.8/5.0/3.3 and 2.2 steals. He's just not hitting his threes, but contributing elsewhere.

Tremont Waters: 37.8% on threes, taking 7.5/game. He's also averaging 7.7 assists and 2.3 steals to go along with his 20.4 points/game.

Tacko Fall: 13.8/10.6 on 69.7% shooting. He's at 48.6% on FTs. He's blocking 3.1 shots/game.

Others:
Yante Maten: 18.8/9/6
Bryce Brown: 16.2 on 42.3% from three
 

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Not a game, but a highlight reel of Waters, who was Player of the Week. It is worth watching this guy pass the ball. Impressive by Waters.

Go to the link below and click on the video for Waters POW.

 

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Obviously the coaches are seeing things in practice that we aren't seeing, but I'm starting to be a bit puzzled why Edwards has gotten so much more of a look with the Celtics than Waters. Waters is obviously an inch shorter, but not sure that's meaningful. Edwards looks stronger, but Waters seems to have really quick hands - so defensively, I'd think they are a wash. Waters would seem to bring much more to the table from a ball movement perspective. 3 point shooting Edwards may have an edge, but it hasn't really played out that way. When Edwards gets into games it just seems like he's trying to fire it up as much as possible from wherever he is. I think I'd rather see Waters.

We're talking mostly end of the bench stuff here, so it's not super important.
 

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Obviously the coaches are seeing things in practice that we aren't seeing, but I'm starting to be a bit puzzled why Edwards has gotten so much more of a look with the Celtics than Waters.
It's the contracts. Edwards was considered the better prospect, had a great summer league, and signed a 4-year contract that is mostly guaranteed. Waters is on a two-way deal, making pennies, and can only serve a maximum of 45 days on the big club. They are using him, and Tacko, judiciously for that reason.

I suspect if they had to do it all over again. Waters would have gotten the guaranteed deal. I'm not giving up on Edwards, though. I think they'll both be contributors and have substantial NBA careers. Ainge did well with these 2nd-rounders, and next year I bet Brad will play them off each other as Doc Rivers did with fellow 2nd-rounders Leon Powe and Big Baby Davis. The competition made each of those players better, kept them motivated, and they both really helped the club on the way to that glorious banner 17.
 

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Obviously the coaches are seeing things in practice that we aren't seeing, but I'm starting to be a bit puzzled why Edwards has gotten so much more of a look with the Celtics than Waters. Waters is obviously an inch shorter, but not sure that's meaningful. Edwards looks stronger, but Waters seems to have really quick hands - so defensively, I'd think they are a wash. Waters would seem to bring much more to the table from a ball movement perspective. 3 point shooting Edwards may have an edge, but it hasn't really played out that way. When Edwards gets into games it just seems like he's trying to fire it up as much as possible from wherever he is. I think I'd rather see Waters.

We're talking mostly end of the bench stuff here, so it's not super important.
Waters looks confident, engaged and should be getting whatever minutes Edwards was getting earlier this season. Carsen needs to work on his 3pt shooting at Maine at the moment.

Tremont's on-ball defense is better then Carsen's. PLUS the ability to break down defenses may play well w/Kanter on the 2nd unit
 

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I'd rather see Waters playing big minutes in Maine. Those minutes will benefit him more than playing garbage time in Boston. Same for Edwards.
I also think Waters is the better prospect-- I love his game-- but he's got some developing to do on defense, particularly pick and roll defense.
 

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I'd rather see Waters playing big minutes in Maine. Those minutes will benefit him more than playing garbage time in Boston. Waters is the better prospect but he's got some developing to do on defense, particularly pick and roll defense.
Maine up 79-69 at the half

they don't play defense in the G-League
 

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Are you saying KO wasn't good at Gonzaga? He had a TS% of .675. His PER of 36.2 and OWS/40 = .222. He scored inside and out and had great mechanics on his jump shot.

In fact, it's funny that you mention Jokic because the analysis of Jokic is almost word-for-word what you read about KO. For example:

Jokic might have been the most skilled big man at the Hoop Summit when you consider his outside shooting, but his complete lack of strength and explosion really limit his NBA future. The 19 year old was reportedly very solid in the first two practices, and he showed flashes of that later in the week. He is deadly in the post when he gets a smaller player switched onto him, and is an excellent shooter out to the FIBA arc, even on pick and pops.
But it really is hard to see him surviving on the interior in the NBA. Although he somehow weighed in at 253 lbs, he sure doesn’t look it. He is thin, but also has zero muscle definition and can’t jump at all. At 6’11 with a 9’3 standing reach, he still is barely able to dunk even when wide open. And challenging shots is not his forte either; for comparison, look how much higher Towns gets on this dunk despite their similar standing reaches.

Full set of KO stats here: http://www.tankathon.com/players/kelly-olynyk
Maine up 79-69 at the half

they don't play defense in the G-League
That's why most of these guys are still in the G-league.
 

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That's why most of these guys are still in the G-league.
well if they don't play defense in the G-League, why on earth would you say this? o_O
I'd rather see Waters playing big minutes in Maine. he's got some developing to do on defense, particularly pick and roll defense.
He's dominating on offense, can get anywhere on the G-League court. He played hard in Q1 and then basically let his teammates get their points the rest of the game. I was in favor of Maine development minutes earlier this year, but Tre's clearly graduated. He's ready to play minutes at the NBA level, BIG4+ need load days over the next month.
 

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Waters was ready to play in the NBA months ago. But Wanamaker was ready too. So what do you do? The sensible answer is to let the kid work on his game in Maine unless Wanamaker shows he can't do the job. But Wanamaker has shown that he can, in fact, do the job. Plus the Celtics now own the Red Claws, so they have a vested interest in putting a good team on the floor in Maine.

It's a nice problem to have, really: too many good players at the pg position.
 
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Another game. Another pinching. Another victory. This time the score was 138 to 126 against Erie.

The stat lines for our baby Celtics reads:

Waters
32 minutes, 26 points, 6 assists, 3 steals, 4-8 from 3 point land.

Fall
25 minutes, 11 points, 10 rebounds, 3 blocks, and 1-3 FT.

Edwards
21 minutes, 11 points, 6 rebounds, 4 assists, and 1-3 FT with 5-15 over all.
 

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Obviously the coaches are seeing things in practice that we aren't seeing, but I'm starting to be a bit puzzled why Edwards has gotten so much more of a look with the Celtics than Waters. Waters is obviously an inch shorter, but not sure that's meaningful. Edwards looks stronger, but Waters seems to have really quick hands - so defensively, I'd think they are a wash. Waters would seem to bring much more to the table from a ball movement perspective. 3 point shooting Edwards may have an edge, but it hasn't really played out that way. When Edwards gets into games it just seems like he's trying to fire it up as much as possible from wherever he is. I think I'd rather see Waters.

We're talking mostly end of the bench stuff here, so it's not super important.
It is entirely a function of the contacts. Waters is limited to 35 days with the Celtics and does not have playoff eligibility. To use him in a larger role than that this year would require a roster move.
 

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I guess they have to save those remaining 35 days in case of serious injury to wannamaker but I hope they use the last third of the season to see if waters will be up for the backup point guard position in 20-21. I think wannamaker will get an offer as an UFA that the Celtics won’t want to try and counter.
 

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It's the contracts. Edwards was considered the better prospect, had a great summer league, and signed a 4-year contract that is mostly guaranteed. Waters is on a two-way deal, making pennies, and can only serve a maximum of 45 days on the big club. They are using him, and Tacko, judiciously for that reason.

I suspect if they had to do it all over again. Waters would have gotten the guaranteed deal. I'm not giving up on Edwards, though. I think they'll both be contributors and have substantial NBA careers. Ainge did well with these 2nd-rounders, and next year I bet Brad will play them off each other as Doc Rivers did with fellow 2nd-rounders Leon Powe and Big Baby Davis. The competition made each of those players better, kept them motivated, and they both really helped the club on the way to that glorious banner 17.
Describe substantial since you named Leon Powe. I guess Powe did manage to get a 2nd NBA contract and played a total of 50 games and 2 seasons after his rookie deal expired. I'd say that's a good outcome for both Waters and Edwards.

Yay?
 

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Describe substantial since you named Leon Powe. I guess Powe did manage to get a 2nd NBA contract and played a total of 50 games and 2 seasons after his rookie deal expired. I'd say that's a good outcome for both Waters and Edwards.

Yay?
You have to like what we've seen from Waters in the G-League and the Sacramento game earlier this season. Have the Celtics had a rookie, 2nd rounder that did this well in the development league this quickly?
I believe the G-league has become more relevant over the last few seasons to NBA player development then it did say 10yrs ago YMMV

As far as Leon Powe, he was playing well/improving in the NBA, especially 2nd/3rd season (age 24/25), but was slowed down by a knee injury. Probably would have done more if it wasn't for that bum knee.

a happy LP reminder: One of Powe's most notable performances of the championship season came in Game 2 of the 2008 NBA Finals against the Los Angeles Lakers on June 8, 2008, as he scored 21 points, which included several dunks and 13 free throw attempts in only 15 minutes of play in front of a crowd chanting his name en route to a 108–102 Celtics victory.


Water's skill set: the ability to dribble drive to the hoop, breakdown defenses, distribute the ball, hit deep 3s and aggressive perimeter defense are very important skills for the modern game. Carsen Edwards ability to hit deep 3s in high volume off the dribble is also an important skill, and is young/cheap enough to see how he develops without hurting roster construction.

I have no idea what either contract situation will be in 3-4yrs, but I'm thrilled the Celtics have them as low-cost options now.
 

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You have to like what we've seen from Waters in the G-League and the Sacramento game earlier this season. Have the Celtics had a rookie, 2nd rounder that did this well in the development league this quickly?
Jabari Bird
Kadeem Allen
Abdel Nader

literally the first 3 names I checked.

so yes. Lots. Fringe NBA players should dominate the G league. I like Waters and think he might contribute but odds are against him doing so in a Celtics uniform.
 

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Jabari Bird
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Abdel Nader

literally the first 3 names I checked.

so yes. Lots. Fringe NBA players should dominate the G league. I like Waters and think he might contribute but odds are against him doing so in a Celtics uniform.
3 months into the season and Tre has been Player of the Month, Player of the Week and just went for 27pts last night. The one game he played legit NBA minutes he was a +20, difference-maker in a 1pt game, where Kemba was out with injury

None of those players ever did that their rookie year.
 

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I like Waters and think he might contribute but odds are against him doing so in a Celtics uniform.
I'd agree with most players of his ilk (I'm with you mostly wrt Edwards, for example), but Tremont is a weird, specific player and because of that I think he's more likely to contribute some to the Celtics if he does contribute at all.

The reason is that almost all the question marks surrounding him relate to size and defense. He's going to be able to confidently run an offense, he'll open stuff up off the dribble, etc. The open question for him is whether he'll be able to cope defensively at his size, or if he'll get hunted relentlessly.

He's not going to get taller in the next 5 years, so I think his success at the NBA level is a very binary proposition (one reason I'd like to see him more in real minutes this season, since the team needs to evaluate his defense).

Contrast that with someone like Edwards or Tacko: in addition to seeing whether the defense holds up (not promising so far), you have to hope that the shot falls, that he can be used off-ball, and so on. There are a lot of scenarios in which he puts it all together after 3-4 years and then contributes elsewhere.
 

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3 months into the season and Tre has been Player of the Month, Player of the Week and just went for 27pts last night. The one game he played legit NBA minutes he was a +20, difference-maker in a 1pt game, where Kemba was out with injury

None of those players ever did that their rookie year.
It's the G league. The week before, Dragan Bender won player of the week. The week before that, it was our buddy PJ Dozier. I like Waters but what he's doing in the G league means nothing. It means even less for Edwards because Edwards will have a completely different role in the NBA. Waters will more or less have the same role, just in less minutes.

I doubt we see all that much of Waters this year and that may not be a bad thing. Guys like Monte Morris and VanVleet didn't really play much in the NBA their rookie years either.
 

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Describe substantial since you named Leon Powe. I guess Powe did manage to get a 2nd NBA contract and played a total of 50 games and 2 seasons after his rookie deal expired. I'd say that's a good outcome for both Waters and Edwards.

Yay?
Leon was a key rotation member of a championship team. Had he not blown his knee out (again), he would have had a long NBA career. Good player. Even his injury-shortened career contained many unforgettable highlights, as BH mentioned above. Anyway, Edwards and Waters are capable of hanging around the league for a while. I can envision Edwards having some Eddie House potential.
Jabari Bird
Kadeem Allen
Abdel Nader
The Kadeem-Abdel-Jabari Bird draft had such potential.
28045
 

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I'd agree with most players of his ilk (I'm with you mostly wrt Edwards, for example), but Tremont is a weird, specific player and because of that I think he's more likely to contribute some to the Celtics if he does contribute at all.

The reason is that almost all the question marks surrounding him relate to size and defense. He's going to be able to confidently run an offense, he'll open stuff up off the dribble, etc. The open question for him is whether he'll be able to cope defensively at his size, or if he'll get hunted relentlessly.

He's not going to get taller in the next 5 years, so I think his success at the NBA level is a very binary proposition (one reason I'd like to see him more in real minutes this season, since the team needs to evaluate his defense).

Contrast that with someone like Edwards or Tacko: in addition to seeing whether the defense holds up (not promising so far), you have to hope that the shot falls, that he can be used off-ball, and so on. There are a lot of scenarios in which he puts it all together after 3-4 years and then contributes elsewhere.
I think Waters can fill a role no one else on the team can really fill. That may get him minutes to contribute. The same can be said about Edwards too, but he's a one trick pony so it's harder to fit him in if he's not excelling at his one trick. I also think Waters makes Edwards mostly redundant. Any advantage Edwards might have as a shooter gets completely wiped out by his shot selection.
 

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I think Waters can fill a role no one else on the team can really fill. That may get him minutes to contribute. The same can be said about Edwards too, but he's a one trick pony so it's harder to fit him in if he's not excelling at his one trick. I also think Waters makes Edwards mostly redundant. Any advantage Edwards might have as a shooter gets completely wiped out by his shot selection.
Yeah, agree re Edwards: with Waters you get a lot more certainty that his trick will work, especially since it’s not as subject to variance.
 

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G League is fine as a place for these guys to practice and be near the big clubs. But, the quality of the games isn't all that high and not all that competitive.

I bet most guys would develop more playing in Europe.
 

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CC, we're probably talking past each other here. Odds are 2nd rounders pretty much flame out. BUT I don't see that from Tre or Carsen. YMMV. It feels like Waters has passed Edwards on the Celtics depth chart. Edwards needs to stay at Maine, but Tre should start getting calls up when one of Kemba, Smart, Wanamaker needs a game off.

Waters upside this season is 4th string PG, which is as much as you can expect from a late 2nd rounder on a contending team. I don't think anyone is saying he should be a key rotational player. If defense is his Achilles heel (I think he'll be fine on D), CBS is pretty good about hiding that. If he turns into a 3rd string PG next season, that's a huge win. He'd be backing up and learning from an All-NBA player(KW) and a defensive pillar(MS). He'd get real minutes/situations to see if he can improve. At the moment, he has pretty much graduated from the development league, he'd be in the running for G-League MVP (if you've watched any of those games he is toying with the competition). The most important role for any of these rookies (RL, GW) is how well do they complement the BIG4+. If Tre can eventually breakdown an NBA defense, and feed the stars then he has value.

With the schedule in overdrive, injuries, players nicked up, load mgmt needed he could see some rotational minutes backing up Wanamaker over the next month. If Waters comes up to his 35-day service time, is producing, then that's a good problem for Danny and he can make a decision then about the roster.
 
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G League is fine as a place for these guys to practice and be near the big clubs. But, the quality of the games isn't all that high and not all that competitive.

I bet most guys would develop more playing in Europe.
Disagree, the value of the G League is that the competitive nature of it is pretty low and teams don't value winning outside of how it impacts player development. In Europe the quality of competition is lower than the NBA but all of the teams are trying their absolute hardest to win and they are not going to give some green 19 year old a bunch of playing time just because the NBA team that owns his draft rights wants to see some development.
 

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G League is fine as a place for these guys to practice and be near the big clubs. But, the quality of the games isn't all that high and not all that competitive.

I bet most guys would develop more playing in Europe.
I don't know about that but I think most guys would benefit more traveling, practicing and getting DNP-CDs with the big club than playing in the G league.
 

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They're back and they are pinching butt one more time. The battling crustaceans win again, 107 to 103 against Salt Lake City.

Here is the tale on our baby Celtics:

Waters
38 minutes, 17 points, 4 assists, 2 rebounds. Not a good night shooting for Tremont, 5-14 and 1-5 from three point land.

Edwards
30 minutes, 14 points, 3 assists, 3 reboudns. He shot poorly... 6-14 and 0-6 from far away. :confused:

Fall
23 minutes, 14 points, 10 rebounds, with 2 blocks. 1-2 FT.


Watch Tacko's video against SLC. He actually displays a couple of offensive moves. He is developing to be at least a bit more than a dunker.
 
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What is going on with Arson’s shooting? He’s shooting less than 25% from deep for Maine, even worse than his NBA numbers. Small sample sizes and all, but I’d have thought the G-League, where defense is more of a theoretical concept that an actual facet of gameplay, would be a great place for him to get in some kind of rhythm and build come confidence.
 

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What is going on with Arson’s shooting?
I've been wondering the same thing (along with probably the entire Celtics front office). Seems hard to believe that the peak of the guy's "NBA career" could be a summer league game against the Cavaliers.
 

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As far as Leon Powe, he was playing well/improving in the NBA, especially 2nd/3rd season (age 24/25), but was slowed down by a knee injury. Probably would have done more if it wasn't for that bum knee.
Merits mentioning that a big part of Powe's availability late in the draft was said knee injury, which caused him to miss his sophomore year at Cal.
 

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What is going on with Arson’s shooting? He’s shooting less than 25% from deep for Maine, even worse than his NBA numbers. Small sample sizes and all, but I’d have thought the G-League, where defense is more of a theoretical concept that an actual facet of gameplay, would be a great place for him to get in some kind of rhythm and build come confidence.
Some guys do have a hard time adjusting to the NBA line; even if they were knockdown shooters in college and regularly shot from well beyond the college line. Buddy Hield and Trae Young come to mind as guys who struggled to shoot from deep during the first half of their rookie seasons, but eventually regressed back to what they were expected to do.
 

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Sigh. All good things must come to an end....I suppose. The direction of the pinching was reversed as the Claws lost to Long Island 111 to 102.

In the tale of our baby celtics:

Waters
25 minutes, 10 points, 6 rebounds, and 4 assists. A merely so-so evening for him.

Edwards
40 minutes, 33 points, 7 rebounds, 3 assists, and 3 steals. Very nice. He shot 11 for 27 with 4-9 from three point range.

Fall
22 minutes, 16 points, 14 rebounds with 2 blocks. He was 8-8 from the field but 0-2 in FT. This is becoming quite the typical night for him.
 

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Watching the game against SLC ... first Red Claws game I’ve seen. Waters looked terrible in the third and totally turned it around in the 4th. Edwards looked good finding the open man. Tacko looked raw but also a weapon.

I wish the camera was a little higher up, as it can be a little hard to see the action with the guys blending into the seats.

This is fun. Good win.
 

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Yes. Fall's typical night is becoming efficiently sick (in the good way). Will the C's see if he can contribute against real NBA players?
 

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He got a look in the second quarter against the Spurs. For the most part he looked lost, but he absolutely caused the Spurs to avoid attacking the paint.
 

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They are back to their pinching and winning ways, downing College Park 108 to 107.

And here is the tale of the youngsters.

Edwards
36 minutes, 28 points, 7 rebounds, and 4 assists. He shot 10 for 19 and 4-11 from three point land. A very nice evening for him.

Fall
15 minutes, 9 points, 7 rebounds, and 1 block. He shot 3-5 from the field and 2-5 FT. He only played for 15 minutes, less than usual, because he had 5 fouls. But a typically efficient evening for Tacko, save for the FT.

For the season, Tacko is averaging 23.4 minutes, 14 points, 10.4 rebounds, and 2.9 blocks. His shooting is truly schizophrenic. His FG% is a staggering 73% while his FT is also staggering, but for a different reason - 46.7%. These are very similar to his college shooting stats, though his FT is up a bit from 43% to 46.7%.
 
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