Recommend me a 55-65 inch TV

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My 64" Samsung plasma kicked the bucket this weekend, after being on its last legs for a few weeks now. Sometimes it would make clicking sounds and just not turn on. Other times, the picture would just randomly die. Now I can't get it to stay on for more than a minute before the picture dies. Apparently it's common for the capacitors to blow on this model TV, which appears to have happened. It's a sad day whenever a plasma TV dies. They're slowly going extinct.

The correct answer for a replacement is still an LG OLED, yes? Because I have to admit, some of these $550-800 LEDs with great reviews from the likes of TCL, Hisense, and Vizio seem to offer great bang for the buck. I just wonder if I'll be disappointed by their picture quality, coming from nothing but plasmas for the past decade or so. Granted, I never had a high end plasma or anything. But still.

I can afford something like a 55" LG B9 OLED. I also like saving money and getting a deal, so getting a high quality LED for less than half the price of a similar sized OLED is right up my alley. But, I have a feeling most here are gonna be all: "Dude, just get the OLED."

I could also just ride with my last remaining plasma, a 50" Panasonic, until it dies. I just moved it to the living room and I've realized after going from 64" to 50" that I really think 65" is too big. Unless it's a giant room and I'm sitting real far away, 55" seems like the sweet spot for size. YMMV.
 

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My 64" Samsung plasma kicked the bucket this weekend, after being on its last legs for a few weeks now. Sometimes it would make clicking sounds and just not turn on. Other times, the picture would just randomly die. Now I can't get it to stay on for more than a minute before the picture dies. Apparently it's common for the capacitors to blow on this model TV, which appears to have happened. It's a sad day whenever a plasma TV dies. They're slowly going extinct.

The correct answer for a replacement is still an LG OLED, yes? Because I have to admit, some of these $550-800 LEDs with great reviews from the likes of TCL, Hisense, and Vizio seem to offer great bang for the buck. I just wonder if I'll be disappointed by their picture quality, coming from nothing but plasmas for the past decade or so. Granted, I never had a high end plasma or anything. But still.

I can afford something like a 55" LG B9 OLED. I also like saving money and getting a deal, so getting a high quality LED for less than half the price of a similar sized OLED is right up my alley. But, I have a feeling most here are gonna be all: "Dude, just get the OLED."

I could also just ride with my last remaining plasma, a 50" Panasonic, until it dies. I just moved it to the living room and I've realized after going from 64" to 50" that I really think 65" is too big. Unless it's a giant room and I'm sitting real far away, 55" seems like the sweet spot for size. YMMV.
I'd highly recommend the OLED. Like you, I was all Plasma before and getting the 65" C9, the picture quality still amazes me

So I think you'll be really happy, especially with a 55" B9 (I'd jump the C9 personally, just for the better processor used), but it's your money, not mine
 

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I'd highly recommend the OLED. Like you, I was all Plasma before and getting the 65" C9, the picture quality still amazes me

So I think you'll be really happy, especially with a 55" B9 (I'd jump the C9 personally, just for the better processor used), but it's your money, not mine
Same here. I had a 50” Panasonic Viera plasma and a 65” Panasonic Viera plasma. That was going to be my set up in my new place but both got smashed to shit by the movers. Ended up getting the LG OLED 65” C9. Pretty amazing picture and handles blacks as well as my newer Panasonic model. I’m sure it’ll get snapped in half on my next move in a few months and I’ll go right back and buy another one.
 

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Yes. I had a 50" Pioneer Elite plasma (Panasonic took over this panel factory for Viera sets), and replaced it with a 65" Sony OLED (same panel as LG, different processor) after 10+ years.

Black levels are great and so far motion (sports) has been great too, that's mostly what I watch on it. Very happy.

@Preacher, maybe you should save the box (if you can)?
 

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The movers have TV boxes. Of course they aren’t custom to the TV like the ones you get at the store. The problem is what to do with a box that large for a TV in the interim? And of course, each move degrades the integrity of the box. So after 2-3 moves, the TV box would be pretty warped. Leads me to taking the risk and filing a claim with the moving company on the back end. Both options create a pain in the ass.
 

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I have a 65" Panasonic Vierra which I love. When I needed to upgrade my 12 yr old Sony Bravia I bought a 65" LG OLED. It is AMAZING. Every bit a good w/ blacks as my Panasonic. Get one. I have the C9. We bought a 55" for my son for Christmas but got the B version (1 yr older, I think) and I can't tell any difference in picture quality.
 

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I ended up getting a TCL 6 series and, boy, was that a mistake. The picture quality is really good, though the poor viewing angles suck coming from plasma.

The dealbreaker, though, is that this TV has constant issues with the audio dropping out. It doesn't happen when watching TV, but with any of the streaming apps and my PS4, it happens constantly. I guess it is common with these TVs, and Roku TVs in general. I'm kind of amazed none of the websites that have overwhelmingly glowing reviews for these TVs has mentioned this issue, as it didn't take me long to find dozens of threads across the internet of people complaining about this. Some go back 2-3 years and it's still not fixed with these TVs. Every so often, the audio just drops out completely for a second or two, then it comes back. The "solution," if you can call it that, is to disable surround sound and just use stereo audio, which kind of defeats the purpose of having a home theater system.

So, yeah, I'll be returning this and will likely just bite the bullet and get an LG OLED.
 

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Apparently it's common for the capacitors to blow on this model TV, which appears to have happened. It's a sad day whenever a plasma TV dies. They're slowly going extinct.
This is fixable and it’s not too difficult if you know how to use a soldering iron. I replaced the caps on my TV and it’s good as new. When you take it apart, you can see which ones are bad because they are bulging. Unsolder the old ones, and put the new ones in. I think I replaced four on mine.
 

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This is fixable and it’s not too difficult if you know how to use a soldering iron. I replaced the caps on my TV and it’s good as new. When you take it apart, you can see which ones are bad because they are bulging. Unsolder the old ones, and put the new ones in. I think I replaced four on mine.
I read that somewhere else, but I've never used a soldering iron in my life. Besides, I'm starting to see the value in 4k and HDR content, which seems to be more plentiful now. Kinda digging it.

Getting back to the weird audio issues that I've been having with this new TCL, I think it may be the old A/V receiver that I have and not necessarily the fault of the TV. The receiver is a Sony model that's like 6-7 years old, and I thought it would be fine as it does support 4k. However, when I use the ARC port via HDMI on the TV, that's when I always get audio drop-outs.

Just to see if it would change anything, I reconnected all of my HDMI devices directly to the TV instead of the receiver, then used an optical cable to run audio from the TV to the receiver. Lo and behold, that seems to have fixed the issue. I think. At least, I'm not getting any drop-outs that I've noticed in the couple of hours since I made the switch. I can only get regular Dolby output and not Dolby +, but otherwise seems to be working fine.

Has anybody else had similar audio issues with new TVs hooked up to older A/V receivers? I'd hate to return this TV, spend even more money on something else, then have the same audio issues and realize it's the receiver and not the TV. And using the optical cable instead of HDMI seems to preclude even needing to upgrade the receiver yet, though it probably wouldn't hurt to start looking into those.
 

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Is your issue the audio or the awful viewing angles? Coming from 10 years of plasma and skipping LCD complete for a lot of reasons I love my LG OLED B8. A B9 or C9 would be even better. I’m in a room of windows at a bad angle and the OLED is the best the lack of glare compared to a plasma is fantastic and the viewing angles are outstanding. Plus the 100x Better black levels

I was obsessed with Plasmas and hated LCD. OLED was the only thing that got me to move.
 

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Is your issue the audio or the awful viewing angles? Coming from 10 years of plasma and skipping LCD complete for a lot of reasons I love my LG OLED B8. A B9 or C9 would be even better. I’m in a room of windows at a bad angle and the OLED is the best the lack of glare compared to a plasma is fantastic and the viewing angles are outstanding. Plus the 100x Better black levels

I was obsessed with Plasmas and hated LCD. OLED was the only thing that got me to move.
The audio. That was driving me crazy and I can't believe I didn't try using an optical cable sooner.

The viewing angles are the only real difference that stands out when comparing picture quality between this and my old dead plasma. That's hardly a dealbreaker for me, as I'm almost always viewing the TV from straight on. In a situation such as yours sounds, yeah, that would probably be a dealbreaker. It's just impossible not to notice the difference from an angle when you're walking around while the TV is on. The colors still look great, but the contrast gets washed out. No biggie though.

Besides that, the picture on this is great. Doesn't hurt that I can stream a bunch of stuff in 4k and HDR, which I can't do on any plasma. And the price was certainly right. A similar sized LG OLED is more than double what I paid for this.
 

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The audio. That was driving me crazy and I can't believe I didn't try using an optical cable sooner.

The viewing angles are the only real difference that stands out when comparing picture quality between this and my old dead plasma. That's hardly a dealbreaker for me, as I'm almost always viewing the TV from straight on. In a situation such as yours sounds, yeah, that would probably be a dealbreaker. It's just impossible not to notice the difference from an angle when you're walking around while the TV is on. The colors still look great, but the contrast gets washed out. No biggie though.

Besides that, the picture on this is great. Doesn't hurt that I can stream a bunch of stuff in 4k and HDR, which I can't do on any plasma. And the price was certainly right. A similar sized LG OLED is more than double what I paid for this.
What size and what did you pay?

Have you watched hockey or basketball other fast moving sports on it? Going from Plasma to LCD/LED was a no go for me because Of response times.
 
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What size and what did you pay?

Have you watched hockey or basketball other fast moving sports on it? Going from Plasma to LCD/LED was a no go for me because Of response times.
55" for $550.

Yeah, sports is fine. It has a black frame insertion feature that I've used when watching sports. Seems to help, though motion doesn't look quite as good as my plasma. Again, a minor compromise that I'm willing to make to save a few hundred dollars.
 

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Getting back to the weird audio issues that I've been having with this new TCL, I think it may be the old A/V receiver that I have and not necessarily the fault of the TV. The receiver is a Sony model that's like 6-7 years old, and I thought it would be fine as it does support 4k. However, when I use the ARC port via HDMI on the TV, that's when I always get audio drop-outs.

Just to see if it would change anything, I reconnected all of my HDMI devices directly to the TV instead of the receiver, then used an optical cable to run audio from the TV to the receiver. Lo and behold, that seems to have fixed the issue. I think. At least, I'm not getting any drop-outs that I've noticed in the couple of hours since I made the switch. I can only get regular Dolby output and not Dolby +, but otherwise seems to be working fine.
Which model Sony receiver, and does it support 4K@60 Hz or just 4K@30 Hz?

Do you get dropouts only with a 4K signal, or are they happening with HD/SD signals as well? ARC is only used for audio from the TV back to the receiver. If you're getting audio dropouts for devices hooked up to the receiver directly, and then video to the TV, it's not using ARC for that audio. If this is only happening for 4K signals, it might be your HDMI cables. Higher bit rate signals like 4K require cables rated for higher bandwidth. You could try swapping the cables for ones that are certified premium for 4K@60Hz like these Monoprice ones.
 

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Has anybody else had similar audio issues with new TVs hooked up to older A/V receivers?
Your old receiver almost certainly only has HDMI 1.2 specification switching. Current HDI supports either 1.4 and the latest have 2.0 or 2.1. These specs were all a bit loose and depending upon the interconnects, even receivers and TVs that both claim 1.4 or above can have issues. The beauty of the optical link is that spec has been more stable and can also eliminate some interference issues. The 'problem' sometimes created is optical is 1 way and some receivers don't handle or switch that feed exactly the way they switch between HDMI inputs. The better quality cables, which also include 2 way signaling, may well help IF your receiver HDMI inputs are at least 1.4, if not, better cables probably won't help.
 

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55" for $550.

Yeah, sports is fine. It has a black frame insertion feature that I've used when watching sports. Seems to help, though motion doesn't look quite as good as my plasma. Again, a minor compromise that I'm willing to make to save a few hundred dollars.
I’m not a big spend money on TV person which is why I got a B8 instead of a C9 but I’d much rather spend an extra $400 on an OLED than deal with what you outlined for the next 5 years. $100 a year is a dinner out.
 

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Which model Sony receiver, and does it support 4K@60 Hz or just 4K@30 Hz?

Do you get dropouts only with a 4K signal, or are they happening with HD/SD signals as well? ARC is only used for audio from the TV back to the receiver. If you're getting audio dropouts for devices hooked up to the receiver directly, and then video to the TV, it's not using ARC for that audio. If this is only happening for 4K signals, it might be your HDMI cables. Higher bit rate signals like 4K require cables rated for higher bandwidth. You could try swapping the cables for ones that are certified premium for 4K@60Hz like these Monoprice ones.
Your old receiver almost certainly only has HDMI 1.2 specification switching. Current HDI supports either 1.4 and the latest have 2.0 or 2.1. These specs were all a bit loose and depending upon the interconnects, even receivers and TVs that both claim 1.4 or above can have issues. The beauty of the optical link is that spec has been more stable and can also eliminate some interference issues. The 'problem' sometimes created is optical is 1 way and some receivers don't handle or switch that feed exactly the way they switch between HDMI inputs. The better quality cables, which also include 2 way signaling, may well help IF your receiver HDMI inputs are at least 1.4, if not, better cables probably won't help.
STR-DH540 is the model number of my receiver. I think it's HDMI 1.4 but not 100% certain. The audio drop outs happen with non-4k content too.

I have no idea what kind of HDMI cables I have. All I know is that I have a boatload of them that I've accumulated over the years. I suppose they're cheap enough that it wouldn't hurt to just buy a bunch of new ones that I know will support all of the modern standards.
 

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STR-DH540 is the model number of my receiver. I think it's HDMI 1.4 but not 100% certain. The audio drop outs happen with non-4k content too.

I have no idea what kind of HDMI cables I have. All I know is that I have a boatload of them that I've accumulated over the years. I suppose they're cheap enough that it wouldn't hurt to just buy a bunch of new ones that I know will support all of the modern standards.
I would buy them from Monoprice - 18Gbps and 28AWG is basically golden. You can get CL2 jackets if you are running in-wall stuff.

Their 3-ft premium HDMI is $4.65, and a 3-pack of 6-footers is $9.98 so it's not like this is breaking the bank.
 

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I have a Fujitsu plasma that’s about 10 years old. Like the picture but I have a small living room and it weighs a ton so wall mounting is not an issue, but more importantly it’s input ports are archaic. There’s only one HDMI and otherwise it’s a few Soviet era ports.Even with a Harmony setup I can’t get both the DVD player and Apple TV working at the same time. Someone mentioned a motherboard upgrade. Is it worth investigating or should I just move on? I woukd sacrifice some picture quality to not have to pour kerosene into this thing to get it to work.
 

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I have a Fujitsu plasma that’s about 10 years old. Like the picture but I have a small living room and it weighs a ton so wall mounting is not an issue, but more importantly it’s input ports are archaic. There’s only one HDMI and otherwise it’s a few Soviet era ports.Even with a Harmony setup I can’t get both the DVD player and Apple TV working at the same time. Someone mentioned a motherboard upgrade. Is it worth investigating or should I just move on? I woukd sacrifice some picture quality to not have to pour kerosene into this thing to get it to work.
Why not use an HDMI Switch?
 

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I researched the model online including lots of time in some borderline frightening reddit forums. I bought several adapters probably $100 worth. Tried several combinations.Got a Harmony which helped things play nice a little better but at the end of the day fuck it.