SMU_Sox said:
Mark Sanchez got to the AFC title game twice. And our O-Line is going to give Fitzpatrick a ton of time for our WR's and RB's to get open. If we dominant the trenches on both sides of the ball I don't see how we'd even have a losing record let alone worst in the division.
RFP's Titan's offense, which imo isn't as good as ours, averaged 21.3 PPG and they played against some decent opponents. Our defense is going to allow 19 PPG or less (Yes, I think we're a top 5 defense). All RFP has to do is score 20-24 PPG and I think we win most games.
This gonna come off bitchy but since you've chosen to cast your lot with 18%, I hope you can see that only half of it is really aimed at you....
Why do you keep ignoring Blaine Gabbert and Tyler Wilson? What was your record in those games? Had you not had the supplemental draft to take TWO more shitbags, you would have gotten a 0 from the QB position - would you still be arguing your offense is averaging 20-24 a game with a blank space at QB? What would you have averaged in the games Gabbert played? Are you seriously suggesting that you, the RFP team, after all your crowing about Tyler Wilson didn't start him in a few games before going to Gabbert (for a few more games) and finally settling for Fitzy?
Look, your defense is really good. And one of those votes that puts you last is a mistake I acknowledged upthread. But your QB situation is a fucking mess. And no, just postulating that you & KFP are so brilliant as to KNOW the first two QBs you took were shit in the preseason meant that you went with Fitzy and then "won most of your games" is not honest.
I'd really like to take your arguments seriously but I cannot. You are willfully ignoring the morass of shittiness you created at the most important position and arguing your 3rd stringer would have carried you to 20-24 points per game and you would have won "most" of them. That's patently ridiculous.
I'd have lots more respect for your argument if you simply acknowledged that you suffered through 8 weeks of the Wilson/Gabbert pu-pu platter before turning to Fitzy in the last 8, where you went 6-2 (with two bad losses due to Fitzy picks/brain farts).
And I'd have lots more respect for KFP's whining campaign about how the back end drafters got boned if you two weren't simultaneously arguing that you drafted a good enough team to win a Super Bowl.
FWIW, I have the Browns making the playoffs in the AFC as the 6th seed/second wildcard. Even with the problems you had at QB. And I don't doubt that with the right matchup, the Browns might win a game or two. But that would make you a team that deserves a draft pick in the 20s. So...fucking decide whether your guys are the best or whether you got fucked by the draft but please stop making both arguments at the same time.