Protecting the Shields -- The Nick Cafardo Thread

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What bothers me most about Cafardo's columns are the rhetorical questions. It's a lazy form of writing and its basically telling the reader two things:

1. Despite being an "insider" I know about as much as you
2. I don't feel like looking up the information

Either way it sucks.
 

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The Yankees spotted the Sox the first eight games of this season series, and it didn’t mean anything (except that New York’s final record won’t be as good as it could have)


Really Nick? So by losing games your record "won't be as good as it could have." What a novel concept.

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1. Manny Delcarmen remains the biggest question mark in the bullpen, and pitching coach John Farrell is committed to making sure he is turned around before the playoffs. Barring an injury, Delcarmen should be on the roster. Jonathan Papelbon, Daniel Bard, Billy Wagner, Hideki Okajima, Ramon Ramirez, and Takashi Saito should also make it.


So you're saying a pitcher with an ERA over 7 over a 2-month period should make the playoff roster? When there is no real role for him. Alright, well I'll roll with that. But then.....

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2. If we assume Josh Beckett, Lester, Clay Buchholz, and Daisuke Matsuzaka will start, and the Sox go with an 11-man pitching staff, another issue would be whether they need a long man. If so, Delcarmen could be in jeopardy and Tim Wakefield or Paul Byrd would have a chance.


You say that Delcarmen should be on the playoff roster then go in a completely different direction and say that Byrd or Wakefield(who has needed ump-teen days between appearances) might have a chance. Where is Michael Bowden in this picture? Way to straddle the fence there, Mr. Cafardo.

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How much will Jason Varitek catch in the postseason? Their best offensive lineup doesn’t include Varitek, but it’s hard to believe Varitek would not start at least one game, possibly two, in a five-game Division Series.


What is your reasoning behind this idiotic statement? Francona has shown in the past that he will put the best lineup possible out there in the playoffs. Martinez has played the vast majority of games when everyone has been healthy. Why, all of a sudden, is it hard to believe that he wouldn't be out there in the most important games of the season?
 

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The opening of today's column discusses the levels of pressure faced by the various post-season qualifiers as they seek to win the World Series, with the boringly obvious point being that the Yankees face the most pressure to win it all.
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But of course it’s different for the Yankees. Of course there’s more pressure.

There’s always pressure in Boston, too, but with two championships in five years, there’s not as much. There’s pressure to win now in Detroit, with a high payroll and aging players, but nowhere near what New York faces. There’s pressure in Los Angeles to get past the Red Sox in the first round. There’s pressure in Philadelphia to win back-to-back World Series, but if they don’t?

If they don't.....what? Where are you going with this thought? If they don't, the world won't end?
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There’s no pressure in St. Louis, which won the World Series just three years ago.

So there's pressure to win in Philly because they won last year, but no pressure to win in St Louis because they won three years ago. OK.
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The team that might have the second-most pressure is the Dodgers. They have been so good from start to finish, have survived Manny Ramirez’s suspension, and need to win something soon with Joe Torre at the helm.

What does Joe Torre being at the helm have to do with their needing to win something soon? I guess I can vaguely guess at a half-baked continuation of this thought, but it would be helpful to spell out your reasoning, Nick, not rely on the readers to keep up with what is going on in that big powerful brain of yours.

This opening section of the column would have been bad enough had he just left it at this, but then he starts his characteristic waffling in order to fill up space:
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What if the Yankees were to bow out in the first round, as they did in 2006?
That would probably be bad. After all, we've established (at great length) that they are under the most pressure.
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What’s considered a success?

How about winning the world series.
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What’s considered a failure?

How about not winning the world series.
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How far does a team with a $200 million payroll have to get to satisfy its fans?

*facepalm*
 

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Continuing:


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When you’re the biggest and the best, everyone is trying to shoot you down. Yankee enemies would love to see them embarrassed by the Tigers - and with Justin Verlander perhaps pitching twice, that isn’t far-fetched. Could Verlander beat Sabathia? Of course. Could Edwin Jackson beat Andy Pettitte? You bet. Could Jarrod Washburn beat Burnett? It’s all plausible.

OK, not bad.
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Yet if the Yankees don’t let the pressure get to them, and they play as loose as they have all season, then you can rubber-stamp them for the American League Championship Series.

Oh, OK, so all of the above is only plausible if the Yankees worry about pressure. No chance that Verlander and Jackson could, you know, just pitch better games than Sabathia and Pettitte on any given day. Great grasp of baseball causality, Nick.

Immediately following this:
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“There are certainly different degrees of success,’’ said Cashman. “We did everything we could to win the division. We’ll be very proud of that when we do it.

“We’re proud of making the playoffs. That’s a big accomplishment and we treat it that way. Having the best record is an accomplishment we’d like to have because that ensures us home-field advantage and we play very well in this ballpark.’’

What on earth does this have to do with the match-up with the Tigers?

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But most baseball observers think it’s World Series or bust for the Yankees.

Way to go out on a limb there, anonymous observers.
 

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Yes, the Yankees-under-pressure opening section, some 1,000 words or so, is utter drivel, for the reasons outlined above, but also this: This is supposed to be the baseball notes column. I guess he interviewed Cashman (shocker!), and got some mealy-mouthed crap from both him and Reggie Jackson (he was clutch!), but there's really zero actually new information in all of that thought-piecing.

If Shank or Bob Ryan want to write a column about Yankees-under-pressure, I guess I can roll with that, but this is supposed to be the place where we go for some kind of baseball news and new information. I've obviously long since come to expect that, but how is it that a: Cafardo can think to himself, "Got my lead for this week: Yankees under pressure," and an editor can look at that and be like, "Yanks under pressure: Great lead!"? Does absolutely no one at that paper care at all?

But it's possible the column actually gets worse. Does any of this make sense:

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If the Indians truly believe that Eric Wedge was a victim of the roster Mark Shapiro handed him - and has subsequently stripped him of - he’ll continue on as manager. If not, speculation has already centered around Red Sox pitching coach John Farrell as a possible successor.

Farrell might be the highest-paid pitching coach in baseball; there are varying reports as to whether it’s him or St. Louis’s Dave Duncan, who reportedly earns $750,000.

That is more than some managers make. The Indians paid Wedge $1.3 million, but would they pay Farrell more than $1 million?


So, the Indians either will or won't fire Wedge, and if they do, speculation (yours? whose?) centers on Farrell. But why? Are you just choosing to ignore the Ken Rosenthal report that all of us heard about on the Fox broadcast that Farrell has committed to the Sox through 2010?

And then there's the thing about whether the Indians would pay Farrell as much as Wedge: I mean, why the fuck not? I can't think of a single reason. We just got done talking about how well regarded he is, he used to work for the Indians, etc., but somehow he's not worth as much as Wedge, who had never had a managing job before he signed with the Indians?

But there's just stupid crap after stupid crap here, all of it pulled from Cafardo's voluminous ass:

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In Houston, where Cecil Cooper was let go, general manager Ed Wade will gravitate toward people he’s worked with. One is Jim Fregosi, who has been eyeing a return to managing for some time. Fregosi is a tremendous baseball man, but the recent trend toward younger managers has hurt his chance to get back in. Boston coach Tim Bogar also will be on Houston’s short list.


Why will Wade gravitate toward people he's worked with? Just because that's what people do? Why on earth would Bogar be on the short list? Because he's been a first base coach in Boston for a year? There is zero substantiation for any of this.

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With Bobby Cox announcing he’ll return for one more season in Atlanta, speculation will begin on a successor. Hitting coach Terry Pendleton will likely be a top candidate.


It's news now that a successor for Bobby Cox will be speculated about next year. Pendleton will be a top candidate because?

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The odds are 50-50 on whether Jim Riggleman returns to manage the Nationals; he didn’t fare any better than the fired Manny Acta. General manager Mike Rizzo may consider former Arizona manager Bob Melvin, or he might go high-profile for Bobby Valentine, who is looking to return after several seasons in Japan.


Odds are 50/50=I don't have a clue. Great reporting, Nick. Maybe Rizzo will do some stuff. I have no idea. Neither does Nick. Making shit up for the sake of filling space.

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Dave Trembley could be in jeopardy in Baltimore.


Nick could have a donut with his breakfast, but maybe a croissant.

To be fair, I learned some stuff about Dennis Go Go Gilbert. He sounds like a good guy. Someone else must have written that part. I'm sure there are Globe interns who chip in sometimes.

Nick returns, shortly, however:

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Whoever hires Rick Peterson this offseason will get the best pitching coach in the game


What on god's green earth is Cafardo's hard-on for Peterson? The column he did featuring him and his assinine comments about the power of three was bad enough. Now he's calling him "the best pitching coach in the game" and openly lobbying for him to get a gig? Was that part of the agreement? I'll talk to you, Nick, but only if you blow me openly in a column a few weeks later? So, is Nick's opinion that the general managers of baseball are so stupid that they would allow the "best" pitching coach in all of baseball to go without a job? So, so stupid.

And a lot of the updates on nine are fine, but why the hell is it an NL scout we're hearing from about all AL players? I'm sure the NL scouts the AL for potential free agents, etc., but there's no way some guy from the NL is the ultimate authority on these players. Is he Cafardo's former college roommate or something?

However, as a final saving grace, we are given this, from that Bill Chuck guy who normally gives us stats we don't care about:

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From the Bill Chuck files: “Jermaine Dye hit .189 in August and is at .179 for September, which puts him just .054 better than Jason Varitek in August and .058 better in September.’’


It's mean-spirited of me, but I love that Varitek is the ultimate barometer of terrible players. This guy who sucks? Yeah, can you believe it, he's only a little bit better than Varitek!
 

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QUOTE (Bellhorn @ Sep 27 2009, 10:40 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2592698
Continuing:

OK, not bad.

Not great either. Could the Yankees lose to the Tigers? Sure. Could Verlander pitch well? Sure. Could the Yankees lose 15-0 every game? Sure. The whole "could this happen" is weak, because, of course, anything could effin' happen.
 

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QUOTE (johnmd20 @ Sep 27 2009, 01:52 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2593035
Not great either. Could the Yankees lose to the Tigers? Sure. Could Verlander pitch well? Sure. Could the Yankees lose 15-0 every game? Sure. The whole "could this happen" is weak, because, of course, anything could effin' happen.

Right, but at least he acknowledges that, rather than treating the playoffs as some kind of deterministic event, depending on whether or not a given team feels the pressure, acquires Roy Halladay, etc etc. The quote in my sig is a pretty good example of this mentality, which Cafardo has exhibited far too often.
 

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QUOTE (MyDaughterLovesTomGordon @ Sep 27 2009, 11:33 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2592730
However, as a final saving grace, we are given this, from that Bill Chuck guy who normally gives us stats we don't care about:

for example, Brian Fuentes' W-L record. Hard to imagine a bigger waste of column space, even in a Cafardo column, which is inherently a waste of space to begin with.
 

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The only person who uses more question marks than Nick Cafardo is the Riddler.

His ten players list were just ten players who had crappy years this year. Wow. I'm glad that I subscribe to the Globe to get this hard-hitting analysis. And Rick Peterson is the best pitching coach around? Seems as if someone forgot about his binky's binky (Dave Duncan).

I've been reading the Boston Globe the exact same way since I was 12-years-old (comics first, then the sports (specifically the Baseball Notes) then I read the rest). Week after week after fucking week after I finish the Baseball Notes, I shake my head and wonder if I've been reading the paper incorrectly for 23 years. So, thank you Nick Cafardo, only you can take something so benign as reading about Major League Baseball and turning it into an exercise where I question all of my actions over the last quarter century.
 

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Good point, E5.

The item that struck me as bizarre in today's column was the finish of his paragraph of commentary about Melvin Upton's shitty season.

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One scout noted that Upton chases breaking balls from pitchers he's never faced before, a sign of indecision at the plate.


Isn't that stupid aggression more than indecision? I mean, if he were indecisive or hesitant, wouldn't he watch more pitches? Wouldn't he, especially, watch pitches from guys he hasn't seen? Since when does indecision result in overly hasty, overly aggressive acts? Can someone explain this one to me?
 

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QUOTE (johnmd20 @ Sep 27 2009, 11:52 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2593035
Not great either. Could the Yankees lose to the Tigers? Sure. Could Verlander pitch well? Sure. Could the Yankees lose 15-0 every game? Sure. The whole "could this happen" is weak, because, of course, anything could effin' happen.

Except he asked whether Jarrod Washburn could beat A.J. Burnett, presumably in Game 3, when Rick Porecello is the Tigers' 3rd starter and Washburn, who hasn't pitched in almost two weeks, will be lucky to be healthy enough to be a long man in the pen.

It's not as bad as Joe Morgan telling the nation tonight that Josh Beckett is starting Game 1 and Tim Wakefield and Paul Byrd are competing to start Game 4 with Wakefield a possibility for Game 2 because of Lester's injury, but it's still not even minimally competent.
 

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Joe Morgan is going to tell the nation that tonight?

He said it in the top of the first in Sunday afternoon's game. I went back and transcribed it:
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Jon, a lot of mystery surrounds both teams here as we approach the playoffs. ... When we talk about who's going to start the playoffs for these teams. You ask the Yankees, we know Sabathia is going to start the first game; we do not know who's going to start the second game.

And for the Red Sox, we know Beckett will start the first game, but we do not know what's the condition of Jon Lester's knee or who's going to start the second game there, because of -- you know, Tim Wakefield is struggling, you know, with back problems and back issues, and then you go to the Yankees, you don't know if they want Pettitte out there because of his experience or are they going to go with A.J. Burnett?

We don't know if they are going to take the longer series, so they don't need but three starters as opposed to four if you take the short series, so it's amazing what has been decided after this long a season but what hasn't been decided about this pitching.

This is the man ESPN proudly employs as its #1 baseball analyst.
 

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QUOTE (joyofsox @ Sep 28 2009, 04:48 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2595048
He said it in the top of the first in Sunday afternoon's game. I went back and transcribed it:

This is the man ESPN proudly employs as its #1 baseball analyst.

There really should be some sort of law passed by Congress mandating pro sports analysts are only allowed to work for five years after retirement. It's been obvious for over a decade that Morgan watches absolutely no baseball outside of when he's working.
 

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QUOTE (EricM80 @ Sep 28 2009, 04:25 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2595460
What did Cafardo say?


A lot of dumb shit which I can't remember now, but the thing that really stuck out for me was his getting angry at the red sox for not "trying" hard enough to beat the Yankees.

paraphrasing -- "you got to beat these guys, i don't understand what they (the sox) are doing. they looked like the team that had already clinched. they put anderson and lowrie in the same lineup? i don't get it. they haven't clinched anything"
 

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QUOTE (Swingandadrive @ Sep 29 2009, 08:36 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2596643
A lot of dumb shit which I can't remember now, but the thing that really stuck out for me was his getting angry at the red sox for not "trying" hard enough to beat the Yankees.

paraphrasing -- "you got to beat these guys, i don't understand what they (the sox) are doing. they looked like the team that had already clinched. they put anderson and lowrie in the same lineup? i don't get it. they haven't clinched anything"

I'm sure he was saying that because he had been working on the article that ran Sunday which praised Girardi for running his regular lineup out there.

Nick really looks out of touch these days.
 

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I couldn't get past the first sentence today:

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There are five legitimate candidates for Red Sox MVP, but in the final analysis, the player who set the tone, battled every step of the way, and showed the most selfless behavior was Kevin Youkilis.


Even if you agree with the premise, have you ever read a less-interesting case for MVP? I'm sure that's what Theo was thinking when he was constructing the team - "If we can just get some tone-setting, selfless battling out of the four-hole this year, we'll make the playoffs."

Edit: There are lots of other obviously stupid things today, including the fact that while Kevin Youkilis is the MVP, Jacoby Ellsbury is actually the best player on the team (okay...), but this is one of my subtle favorites:

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The numbers between him and Josh Beckett are scarily close.


What could possible be scary about two pitchers having similar numbers? Maybe if Jon Lester's number were close to Lenny DiNardo's it would be scary, but otherwise I just don't understand this adverb. But the best part is that he proceeds to then post the numbers, and they're not actually that close:

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Beckett went 16-6 with a 3.78 ERA and 194 strikeouts in 207 1/3 innings with a WHIP of 1.172, while Lester was 15-8 with a 3.41 ERA and 225 strikeouts in 203 1/3 innings with a WHIP of 1.23.


They're kind of close, the way any two good pitchers have close numbers, but if that's scary, I'd hate to see what Cafardo feels about how close Adam Dunn's HR totals have been for the last three years.

I mean, here are CC Sabathia's numbers - are they scarily close to Lester and Beckett's?

19-8, 3.37 ERA, 197 K, 230 innings, 1.148 WHIP

Oh my God, I'm so scared! Look how close that K total is to Beckett, with a WHIP just .024 away! And that ERA is within .04 of Lester! I'm literally shaking with fear!

It's like Cafardo never looks at baseball stats.

Or the standings:

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Manager Ron Washington stressed defense and pitching, and the Rangers stayed in the wild-card race until the final week.


And finally - it's amazing how quickly things can change.

Cafardo on Jim Tracy on June 1?

Worst manager in the league.

Today?

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Best manager: Jim Tracy, Rockies.

Hard to argue with the Rockies’ turnaround. Tracy basically did in 2009 what Clint Hurdle did in 2007. “Jim has always been a good manager and one who relates well with players,’’ said a baseball official who has familiarity with Tracy’s work. “He hasn’t always had the best situations in LA and Pittsburgh, but he was the right guy for the job in Colorado.’’
 

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This made me laugh at loud:

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Most disappointing: Daisuke Matsuzaka.
Think about the fact that the Sox lost an 18-game winner for most of the season. Do we fault him for an injured right shoulder?


Wait for it....

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Of course not.


Except that Nick throws him under the bus, the train and every vehicle known to man in the very next sentence...

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But the process of taking care of that shoulder was in question throughout the season. Matsuzaka did not follow the team’s offseason shoulder-strengthening program, then overextended himself in the World Baseball Classic.


I guess we can blame him after all.
 

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I don't understand why Matsuzaka who has a legit injury had a more disappointing season than Jason Varitek, who just sucked.
 

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It can't really be disappointing if you knew it was going to happen.


This is Nick Cafardo we're talking about, dude probably thought that Varitek would bounce back and hit .350 with 40 bombs and 134 driven in.
 

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He wrote an entire column regarding MVPs and disappointments, and didn't mention the Mets once. Not once! 90+ losses and horrible injuries for a team expected to compete for the division, not to mention Omar's Traveling Farcical Circus for good measure.
 

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While Youkilis has always said that playing third is easier on the body than playing first, a few baseball people have told me the wear and tear of going from position to position across the diamond is tough.


"My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with a girl who saw Ferris pass out at 31 Flavors last night. I guess it's pretty serious."
 

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QUOTE (4 6 3 DP @ Oct 5 2009, 12:57 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2607843
"My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with a girl who saw Ferris pass out at 31 Flavors last night. I guess it's pretty serious."


Well, to be fair, Nick used the modifier "baseball" to describe the people who told him that, just so you'd be sure to understand he isn't getting the information from the guy who cleans his windshield at the full-serve station like he normally does.

However, my daughter, technically a T-Ball person, feels Youk is being a pussy. She often plays both first and third in the same game.
 

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Another grand slam by Cafardo today.

Witness as he asks (unnamed, of course) baseball people about which teams would do well in a capped league. And witness as they say nine teams (about 1/3 of the league--including the Red Sox and Yankees) would do well. Sort of ruins his argument that the Twins would be the class of the league. Way to plow through though, Nick. Great job!

The piece on the Toronto GM was intriguing too. It could be anyone!

You know what I like better than the useless pre-season predictions? When a writer goes back and tells us who he almost picked. That's just good writin' there. Take a lesson, kids.

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Speaking to Reggie Jackson recently, it hit me what a good manager he would have been


Really, Nick? Why?

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Chien-Ming Wang, RHP, Yankees - The two-time 19-game winner is only 29 years old but has missed most of the last two seasons with major injuries (foot, hip, and shoulder). What’s his future? The Yankees will consider non-tendering him because they can cut only 20 percent of the $5 million salary he made last season. Medical reports have been encouraging, and he appears to be ahead of the timetable that had him returning midseason next year. There’s talk that he could return as soon as May. Will the Yankees cut ties or wait for him?


Nick, you have your nose jammed up the Yankees' ass as far as it can go. It would be most beneficial to your reads if you ANSWER THE FUCKING QUESTIONS THAT YOU POSE.

I know that I say this every week, but these rhetorical questions are such a stupid gimmick. I don't know what Chien-Ming Wang is going to do next year, Cafardo (supposedly does). Why is he continuing to ask us? I don't know Brian Cashman or Wang's agent. I wish that he'd stop taking the easy way out and get some information.

This column, like every other one he has written, is fucking useless.

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Pettitte hopes to be a big part of the postseason. The question will become, again, will he pitch in 2010?


Again. I don't fucking know.

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Matsui loves hitting at Fenway Park (.330), but if the Sox lose Bay, they undoubtedly would want a younger, quicker player.


So Matsui likes hitting at Fenway, but he wants to stay in New York (Fenway is in Boston) and the Red Sox probably don't want him anyway. Way to go, Nick. Great job!

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9. Eric Wedge, former manager, Indians - Considered the most likely of the ex-managers out there to manage again soon. There’s widespread sentiment that Wedge didn’t deserve to be fired, much like Bob Melvin, who was dumped in Arizona earlier in the year. Wedge might have opportunities to be a bench coach for a while if he wants to. Don’t be surprised if a team puts him to work as a special assistant.


So let's see, Eric Wedge could be a manager next year or he could be a bench coach or he could be a special assistant (to what, I have no idea). So basically, Wedge could do just about anything next year. Again, this tells us absolutely nothing. And why didn't Wedge deserve to be fired? His team blew a shot at the Series in 2007 (partly due to his managing of his pitching staff, it could be argued) and his team underachieved in 2008 and 2009. Who shares this sentiment, Nick? Is it just you because Wedge gives you good quotes.

Christ, I hate this fucking guy.
 

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Amalie with a truly Cafardian moment:

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More likely, the Sox are faced with re-signing their players, checking out a less-than-stellar free agent market, or going the trade route.


So wait a sec... in order to improve the team, the Sox will either re-sign Bay, check out the free-agent market or perhaps make a trade. Wow. That's hard-hitting.
 

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Amalie with a truly Cafardian moment:



So wait a sec... in order to improve the team, the Sox will either re-sign Bay, check out the free-agent market or perhaps make a trade. Wow. That's hard-hitting.


Her preceding sentence was: "For the first time in a few years, there won't be significant help coming from the farm system, which is mostly barren at the upper levels at this point." Within that context, how does what Amalie said not make sense?
 

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Cafardo was on Mad Dog yesterday. Holy Jesus was he ever a disaster. Basically said every position in the infield was a weakness except second base, but had no idea how Sox would address.

Russo couldn't believe Sox pitched to Guerrero; Cafardo agreed. Cafardo said something like, "Hunter has holes all over his swing" (although Hunter got some key hits off the Sox in the series) and that Guerrero was a HOFer and why would the Sox ever pitch to him (ignoring Guerrero's ossifying bat, recent horrible playoff performance, and the fact that he's a marginal HOF candidate to begin with!).

Russo "trusts" Cafardo, so it was like listening to a drunk convince another drunk to jump off a bridge, then jump off afterwards... it was a total train wreck. Totally embarrassing.

P.S. I guess he does have HOF regular season credentials, but his playoff performances are spotty
 

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The board ate my post in response to today's Cafardo. More unnamed sources, more rhetorical questions to the 60-85 demographic (who I believe think they're actually having a conversation with Cafardo) and more colloquialisms. Someone needs to send him a copy of Strunk & White's Elements of Style.


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Sometimes you just agree to disagree on how things should be done. In Dice-K’s case, if you’ve done it one way your entire career and it has worked, why wouldn’t you be resistant to change? And if you’re a team like the Red Sox that has a very good medical staff and a tried-and-true shoulder program for its pitchers, why wouldn’t they want everyone to benefit, particularly a player they are paying $28 million over the next three years?


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Baseball people are mixed about how easy it would be to trade Matsuzaka.
Some believe he’s more than worth the gamble if you don’t give up a lot and if the Sox pick up some of the contract. One general manager said, “Because everybody needs pitching, a pitcher of his caliber and skill and experience would be valuable. There are pitchers with lesser skill earning a lot more than he is and he’s still at a prime age."


If he's a general manager, then he's not a former general manager, right?


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In my view, a five game playoff series after a long regular season is too short. It allows the favorite to get into clinching position too quickly and after winning two home games. And yes, I thought this when the Sox were the ones doing the sweeping and, indeed, thought this when the NBA began its playoffs with five gamers.

Of course, Professor Carfardo proposes the opposite and then some.

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With the season getting too long, how about cutting the Division Series from five to three games and the League Championship Series from seven to five games? Teams with the best pitching would be rewarded in the Division Series because they’d be able to use their top three starters. Of course, there would always be upsets, which is fine, too.


Cafardo reminds me of Ivan Ackerman from Annie Hall.

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Man, and Cafardo's piece on Manuel's decision to pull Pedro is atrocious, too. It's just a rambling, stream-of-consciousness bunch of maybes and maybe nots, without a shred of actual analysis. It's all arm-chair managing that any schlep could do. Then, half-way through the piece, he gets to this:

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Of course, more than Manuel’s decision defeated them. Chase Utley has looked poor on defense in the postseason and nobody can quite figure out why. The second baseman’s errant throw to first on the pivot in the eighth inning, which allowed the tying run to score, looked really awkward.


Gee, you don't think it's Charlie Manuel's fault that the tying run scored on a botched sacrifice bunt and then a botched tailor-made double play ball? So, basically, Manuel's decision was gold, but it got turned into lead by some shitty defense. Would it have been Manuel's dumb decision to leave Pedro in if he had allowed the same bloop single, botched bunt, and butchered double-play ball?

Goddammit! Couldn't he see Pedro was cooked?

As a fan, I wanted to see Pedro continue. But when you get seven innings of shutout ball with a guy who hasn't thrown in 17 days I can certainly see why you figure your deal with the devil is about up.

There's other stupid stuff in here, too. This paragraph particularly bothers me:

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The Phillies have looked skittish at times, but they always seem to rebound. They can do that because they have a guy like Howard who can hit one out and change the game immediately. They can do it because they have Raul Ibanez, Utley, Jimmy Rollins, and Jayson Werth, all really good players, and a fine postseason performer like catcher Carlos Ruiz, who is known for a big hit or two.


So that boils down to: "The Phillies haven't been able to win every game going away, but they have won the first series and split the first two games of the second because they have good players and a catcher I've heard of because he had a couple big hits."

Come on. How is that professional baseball writing? Jimmy Rollins isn't even good. He won a fluke MVP that he didn't deserve and has a lifetime OPS+ of 97. Any sports talk show caller could come up with the same paragraph.

And most talk show callers wouldn't go this far:

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The Dodgers needed to salvage something at home after their 8-6 loss in Game 1. In a snap their season went from near-hopeless to having a fighting chance if they can bring the series back to LA.

For that they can thank Charlie Manuel.


Now he's laying that whole loss at Manuel's feet for pulling Pedro? Without anything about Pedro's spot in the order coming up, etc.? This is so lazy and boring it's offensive.
 

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QUOTE (MyDaughterLovesTomGordon @ Oct 18 2009, 11:15 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2635020
Now he's laying that whole loss at Manuel's feet for pulling Pedro? Without anything about Pedro's spot in the order coming up, etc.? This is so lazy and boring it's offensive.

Even for him, that's weak.
 

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Nick says the Red Sox "could be looking for another catcher" this winter and then simply rattles off 12 names: Rod Barajas, Jason Kendall, Jason LaRue, Bengie Molina, Jose Molina, Mike Redmond, Brian Schneider, Ramon Hernandez, Miguel Olivo, Yorvit Torrealba, Pudge Rodriguez, and Gregg Zaun.

Apropos of nothing
4. Actress Jane Seymour (with husband James Keach) was smiling and waving to A-Rod before Game 5 Thursday.

http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/arti...nt_pool?mode=PF
 

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Apropos of nothing
4. Actress Jane Seymour (with husband James Keach) was smiling and waving to A-Rod before Game 5 Thursday.

Game. Set. Match.
 

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He also said that JP Richardi traded Scott Rolen to the Cards for two of their best pitching prospects.

I wonder what the Reds had to say about that?
 

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The Reds probably chuckled because someone thought a 27 year old was a "top pitching prospect".

Or maybe Cafardo meant Encarnacion.
 

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Will Dr. Charles Steinberg land in San Diego?

I don't know, you tell me Nick. You're the reporter.

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Billy Wagner could really help the Angels.

He could help a lot of teams. Why will he specifically help the Angels?

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Mindy McCready blah blah blah

Who the hell cares?

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Jane Seymour waiving to A-Rod

Geez Nick, that is the groundbreaking news I come to the Boston Globe Sunday Baseball notebook for.

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Montro cutting Ryan Howard and Jacoby Ellsbury's hair.


Don't even know what to say to this one.

Can I have those 5 minutes of my life back?
 
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