cannonball 1729 said:From that article:
"When I told him that various groups representing Inuits and Aleuts in Alaska question the description of him as a "full-blooded Inuit Chief originally of Aleutian tribes," Dodson said, "I don't get into organizational things like that. We are a people and that's what we need to focus on, instead of dealing with non-profits run by Mexicans."
The Washington Paula Deans....Baby Got Daubach said:Not to be obvious but I think I can come up with another racial slur that was re-appropriated as a term of endearment by the people it describes that I wouldn't exactly be comfortable calling my football team. The point is moot since the whole thing was a lie, but even if that was true I don't think it justifies anything. It's so ridiculous that it almost reads like an Onion article.
This is a joke, right?cannonball 1729 said:From that article:
"When I told him that various groups representing Inuits and Aleuts in Alaska question the description of him as a "full-blooded Inuit Chief originally of Aleutian tribes," Dodson said, "I don't get into organizational things like that. We are a people and that's what we need to focus on, instead of dealing with non-profits run by Mexicans."
So even if the franchise were to spend $10 million or $20 million to drop its nickname and rebrand itself, how much is that really?A big chunk of the budget would be directed to the fairly rudimentary process of replacing all the old logos with the new one, including on the scoreboard at FedEx Field and on the stationery that the team uses. Carl Bassewitz, a sports marketing and branding expert who has worked with several professional teams, uses a 300-item checklist whenever he helps guide a franchise through the logistics of an identity change. “It’s a massive undertaking,” he said.
Redskins officials, who declined to comment for this article, could minimize some of those costs by keeping the same color scheme, which would spare them having to replace thousands of burgundy-and-gold seats at the stadium. Still, any rebranding effort would require an investment from the team and the league.
For example, the Charlotte Bobcats of the N.B.A. recently estimated that it would cost them $4 million to become the Hornets (again) in time for the start of the 2014-15 season. When the Washington Bullets decided to call themselves the Wizards in 1997, it was a similarly painstaking process.
One huge caveat is that the Redskins, with their zealous fan base and lucrative revenue streams, are neither the bottom-feeding Bobcats nor the Bullets. The Redskins make a lot of money. Last year, Forbes magazine assessed the Redskins’ annual revenue at $373 million. They ranked third in home attendance last season, behind the Dallas Cowboys and the Giants. Just as important, the Redskins share in the swollen coffers of the N.F.L., which generated $9 billion in revenue in 2012. The league receives more than $4 billion in annual television rights fees, which is split among its 32 teams.
I still find it interesting that we can't even write the word, even to refer to existence of the wordLondonSox said:I don't even understand how you can liken redskins (which we should perhaps start using the r word?) to the n word as a JUSTIFICATION to use it boggles my mind.
The n word is completely and totally unacceptable but suggesting its a similar usage amongst native Americans as n word for African Americans (even if that were true) would seem to only serve to highlight how inappropriate it is.
LondonSox said:(can we stop calling them Indians btw this was due to a fucking mistake hundreds of years ago. Seems amazing that this mistake endures)
dirtynine said:"American Indian" is a perfectly acceptable and honorable term.
Blacken said:As separate from "Indian", yeah. "Indian" as in "Cowboys and Indians" is almost universally pejorative.
dirtynine said:"American Indian" is a perfectly acceptable and honorable term.
dirtynine said:"American Indian" is a perfectly acceptable and honorable term.
Dick Pole Upside said:By who, kemosabe? You and the rest of the Palefaces?
Dick Pole Upside said:By who, kemosabe? You and the rest of the Palefaces?
LondonSox said:I agree, I think over time it may get more acceptable but it sure isn't there yet.
The r word seems pretty damn similar yet excepted because the native American (can we stop calling them Indians btw this was due to a fucking mistake hundreds of years ago. Seems amazing that this mistake endures) culture is much smaller and much more screwed. It doesn't make it any more acceptable, less in fact if anything. The race is question is seeing little improvement and no one even cares if you refer to them with racial slurs
LondonSox said:(can we stop calling them Indians btw this was due to a fucking mistake hundreds of years ago. Seems amazing that this mistake endures)
The Pedrophile said:Why was my post deleted? It was relevant to the topic and not at all inflammatory (or meant that way, I guess is better to say...)
Nick Kaufman said:The Washington Redskins have a spokesperson named Maroon who roots for the Jets.
Outstanding.
In recent weeks Redskins owner Dan Snyder has seemed to warm up to the idea of changing the Redskins name. So the report that a wealthy neighbor of his applied for a patent to lock down the name Washington Bravehearts is more than a little spicy.
According to TMZ, Aris Mardirossian, "a wealthy patent investor" who lives "a few doors down" from Dan Snyder, registered the name "WASHINGTON BRAVEHEARTS" on Oct. 17.
CBSSports.com has also learned Mardirossian registered the domain WashingtonBravehearts.com on October 18.
The patent license, per TMZ, is for "entertainment in the nature of football games."
TMZ also obtained the LLC filings (.PDF) for Washington Brave Hearts, LLC.
First impressions of this: What a potentially awesome move. Bravehearts is a sick name and -- unless I'm totally insensitive -- not offensive. It maintains much of the same sense of the name Redskins, but gets rid of the whole, pesky, we're-offending-an-entire-culture thing.
Remember that Snyder recently hired a PR dude who specializes in crisis management. He knows the lay of the land.
Will you remember where you were when TMZ broke the story of the Redskins changing their name to Bravehearts? Probably not. Maybe this is all smoke and no fire but what a freaking world we live in.
soxhop411 said:Possible name change in the works?
CBSSports.com @CBSSports2h
Could the Washington Redskins become the Washington Bravehearts? - http://cbsprt.co/WashingtonBravehearts … (via @EyeOnNFL)
Denying widespread claims that the franchise is being offensive or disrespectful, the Washington Redskins’ kike owner announced Monday that he remains steadfast in his refusal to change the team’s derogatory name. “The Redskins represent 81 years of great history and tradition, and it’s a source of pride for our fans,” said the hook-nosed kike, stressing that the team’s insulting moniker is “absolutely not a racial slur by any means.” “‘Washington Redskins’ is much more than just a name. It stands for strength, courage, and respect—the very values that are so intrinsic to Native American culture.” The shifty-eyed hebe went on to assure fans that he will do “everything in his power” to preserve the team’s proud heritage.
DanoooME said:Bravehearts? Is Mel Gibson in face paint going to be the mascot?
dbn said:I can't possibly imagine why Snyder would have a problem with Gibson except maybe for the really big reason.
The Allented Mr Ripley said:
While the Onion has been spot on so many times this year, the satirical news organization has also thrown out some jokes of questionable taste in the past few months. This particular story walked a fine line between promoting stereotypes and making fun of those who promote stereotypes — so much so that journalists still don’t know how to react.....
The Onion divided readers yesterday with a controversial story that used racial slurs to mock Washington Redskins owner Dan Snyder, who is Jewish. The Onion described Snyder, who refuses to change the racist Washington Redskins name, as a “hook-nosed kike” and “shifty-eyed hebe”:
“The Redskins represent 81 years of great history and tradition, and it’s a source of pride for our fans,” said the hook-nosed kike, stressing that the team’s insulting moniker is “absolutely not a racial slur by any means.”
Kevin Jewkilis said:Dan Snyder basically is a collection of anti-Semitic stereotypes personified. His sniveling attitude and quickness to cry anti-Semetism any time anybody observes that he's an asshole is harmful to both American and World Jewry. (The fact that Abe Foxman is willing to go along with it shows you everything about his values as well.) If someone found evidence that he actually kidnaps and murders Christian babies every spring, it wouldn't really surprise me at this point.
He deserves so much worse than a satiric article pointing out his double standard, and it pisses me off that the Jewish community hasn't heaped so much ridicule on him that he, well, I'm not sure I want to finish this sentence in writing.
Yeah using racist terminology in public, for any reason is really in bad taste.bankshot1 said:Snyder is an ass-hole and a guy who in my opinion has put his financial self-interests ahead of decency and what is right, but as big a selfish jerk as he may be, I'm not sure that should give a publication, even one who trades in satire, a free-pass to use anti-Semitism to make a point.