Nobody knows who he is or what he does. Not even him. #45, Joejuan Williams, DB, Vanderbilt

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Joejuan Williams was a binkie of mine. He is a guy you can staple to a TE or big slot and he has the CoD to keep up. I think he is a great secondary piece. I absolutely love this pick. I do not think this will be a popular one.
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@Super Nomario nails it.
JoeJuan Williams... love it.
Here's his post in the #32 pick thread.

Yeah, I see this pick as part of a continuing commitment to bully ball. The rest of the league wants to go lighter and faster? That's great, our 250-pound LBs will maul the crap out of your receivers at the line, and good luck tackling our new 228-pound WR with linebackers who weigh about the same. If they add 6'4", 211-pound CB Joejuan Williams tonight, as rumored, it will be more along these lines.
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My only concern with DB value is as the rules keep shifting in the offense's favor the iterative benefit to having an elite corner decreases. Of course during the playoffs the refs certainly let a little more contact go uncalled, so there's that...
 

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By the draft chart I just looked at they underpaid to move up those 11 slots (the pick was in the compensatory phase of the 3rd). But even if they overpaid...if that really was the best guy on your board at that point, I like doing what you have to do (within reason) to make sure you get your guy.
 

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Weird case where it seems like a guy multiple pundits tagged as a “Patriots guy” actually gets taken by the Pats. Pete Schrager tagged him to the Pats with #32 on Peter King’s podcast, and heard him attached to the Pats a few other times as well...
 

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BB said earlier about needing to defend all the big guys coming into the league but part 2 of that is also yes they have had trouble with covering those guys. Now they have a guy who is huge and has a 4.01 shuttle and 6.84 3-cone and plays like it too. This makes their deep secondary even better. I could make sweet love to this pick. Now part of that is the whiskey flowing in me right now during this Draftmas holiday...
 

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BB said earlier about needing to defend all the big guys coming into the league but part 2 of that is also yes they have had trouble with covering those guys. Now they have a guy who is huge and has a 4.01 shuttle and 6.84 3-cone and plays like it too. This makes their deep secondary even better. I could make sweet love to this pick. Now part of that is the whiskey flowing in me right now during this Draftmas holiday...
It’s Revis and Browner all over again
 

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BB said earlier about needing to defend all the big guys coming into the league but part 2 of that is also yes they have had trouble with covering those guys. Now they have a guy who is huge and has a 4.01 shuttle and 6.84 3-cone and plays like it too. This makes their deep secondary even better. I could make sweet love to this pick. Now part of that is the whiskey flowing in me right now during this Draftmas holiday...
Do you see him as a guy that can cover TEs in addition to playing on the outside? I can get excited about that. JC Jackson pretty clearly isn't that guy - good on the outside but lacking the quickness to handle coverage in the middle of the field.
 

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Joejuan Williams was a binkie of mine. He is a guy you can staple to a TE or big slot and he has the CoD to keep up. I think he is a great secondary piece. I absolutely love this pick. I do not think this will be a popular one.
I wanted this guy too, so you aren't alone. Not an overdraft. A great physical specimen to cover some of the bigger bodies like Kelce, but also to yang the league's offensive skill players ying of going thinner and smaller, and he moves a bit faster than most his size for the position. You do that, and you're going to hit this brick wall where our power, size, and strength beats you. Hips as a concern is historically low on my list of items that could concern me if you want to talk downside.

It's amusing given Williams' position, but this kind draws personal parallels of when the league FA pool was so focused on secondary players that DL became a market inefficiency a few seasons ago. Can't wait to see what he brings in the box in versatility. Smart football IQ kid as well has shown me in film already good work not biting on bubble screens against Georgia in C3, and good adjustment in C2 man against the Rebels when the flat was empty, with a nifty quick adjustment made to eventually break up Jordan Ta'amu's pass.
 

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I studied his Ole Miss game earlier this week. It was an uneven performance and I see him as a project. He does some special stuff at his size, but he also had some problems with Lodge. He's a true junior and young, so the potential is there. I don't think he plays much this year, but he's an interesting guy down the road. I have no issue with the pick. Go for special when you can, he's got some special qualities.
 

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This could also be about Safety. Devin McCourty and Chung are 32 next year, McCourty in a contract year. BenJarvisJoeJuan Williams looks like the next Aqib Talib. The Talib move allowed Devin McCourty to originally move to safety when Chung had his one-year vacation in Philadelphia.
 

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I studied his Ole Miss game earlier this week. It was an uneven performance and I see him as a project. He does some special stuff at his size, but he also had some problems with Lodge. He's a true junior and young, so the potential is there. I don't think he plays much this year, but he's an interesting guy down the road. I have no issue with the pick. Go for special when you can, he's got some special qualities.
I kind of saw that game because I was watching A.J. Brown ... but it was crazy seeing Brown destroy the other Vandy CB and then when they switched Williams on him, Williams locked him down (Brown did get him on a 30-yard contested one at one point, but Williams won that battle). And he had a big pick late, and the game-winning PBU.

Williams also locked down Miles Boykin, who I liked an awful lot. He had trouble with Terry Godwin and Riley Ridley in the UGA game though.
 

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My only concern with DB value is as the rules keep shifting in the offense's favor the iterative benefit to having an elite corner decreases. Of course during the playoffs the refs certainly let a little more contact go uncalled, so there's that...
Wouldn’t the opposite be true? As it gets harder to play corner the very good ones are more valuable, not less.
 

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Watched a little more of Williams this morning. The biggest thing I noticed after more review is Vandy doesn't have their corners jam receivers at the line. It's basically coaching malpractice to have a 6'4, 210# corner and not have him jam. There would be 1-2 plays a game, but everything else was either press with mirroring, or off coverage. Once he's allowed to jam, at his size and movement skills, he's going to be a %$&@ problem for receivers.