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I can't wait for Harbaugh to use that as the excuse for not shaking Vrabel's hand after the game.
 

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Ravens hit hard: Ingram and Dobbins test positive, out for Thanksgiving game versus Steelers.
 

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Wasn't Carson Palmer's injury similar? Wow, terrible news for Bengals' fans.
Yep. The good news is that Palmer tore his in January and was back for the third game of the preseason. The bad news is, well, everything else. It's six games of lost development, no offseason time for someone that didn't have it this year and now having to watch Ryan Finley for six games (including one on national TV) who is the worst QB I've ever seen this side of Nathan Peterman. Some franchises just can't have nice things. Suck for Sewell is officially on.
 

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I wonder if this'd make them a possible trade target if they do finish bottom 5. Would they have enough confidence in Burrow's rehab to trade a pick with a coveted QB prospect at that slot?
 

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I wonder if this'd make them a possible trade target if they do finish bottom 5. Would they have enough confidence in Burrow's rehab to trade a pick with a coveted QB prospect at that slot?
It’s only even a possibility if they don’t have a chance at drafting Penei Sewell, who’s supposed to be a generational LT. Even then, they almost never make big draft trades.
 

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I think a coach or a staff member dropped dead at work. That's the only thing that's plauisble.
That’s where my head was going. Or I guess a Jovan Belcher situation is possible although probably less likely. Sure we’ll know soon enough.
 

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watch Andy Reid trade Mahomes because of this (/s)
Pass the gravy, mashed potatoes, stuffing ... and ketchup?!

Yup, Patrick Mahomes says he loves the tomatoey stuff SO MUCH, he's planning on slathering it all over his Thanksgiving Day meal!!!

The K.C. Chiefs superstar -- well known for his love of ketchup -- confirmed with the guys on KCSP 610 Sports Radio on Monday that he will, in fact, even put ketchup on his turkey.

"Yeah, dude, I mean come on," Mahomes said. "You got to put ketchup on that!"
In fact, Mahomes says if ham is part of his Thanksgiving feast Thursday as well ... that'll get the ketchup treatment too!!!

And, when the guys asked him if he was joking ... Mahomes said flat-out, hell no!

"Come on," the Chiefs star said with a laugh, "you know me better than that!"
https://www.tmz.com/2020/11/24/patrick-mahomes-thanksgiving-ketchup-turkey-chiefs-nfl-kansas-city/
 

Pandemonium67

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Because Brady is, at least arguably, on the cutting edge of a diet and exercise regimen that may be part of his doing things no other human has done. He could actually change sports and even society at large to some extent. Mahomes, on the other hand, likes ketchup.
 

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Because Brady is, at least arguably, on the cutting edge of a diet and exercise regimen that may be part of his doing things no other human has done. He could actually change sports and even society at large to some extent. Mahomes, on the other hand, likes ketchup.
Wait, what? Brady is a hardworking dude with good genes and better luck.
 

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Wait, what? Brady is a hardworking dude with good genes and better luck.
I think saying that Brady is hardworking (and lucky) doesn't give him nearly enough credit. In a world filled with people who have gotten where they are due to hard work and good genes, he stands out as someone who has completely dedicated every facet of his to staying on the field and performing at a high level, and the results are unprecedented.
 

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I think saying that Brady is hardworking (and lucky) doesn't give him nearly enough credit. In a world filled with people who have gotten where they are due to hard work and good genes, he stands out as someone who has completely dedicated every facet of his to staying on the field and performing at a high level, and the results are unprecedented.
Eh. Bernard Hopkins led a much more undisciplined first half of his life and held a major boxing title into his late 40’s and maybe even till 50?

I’d be shocked if there were more than 20 guys in the NFL who didn’t drink, smoke, party or eat shitty foods some time. Maybe Drew Brees is another, which kind of strains the unprecedented part. I think the Spartan athlete is mostly marketing and a myth and I don’t think there’s anything super special or unique about the Brady method beyond being super talented and genetically lucky and devoting most of every waking moment and decisionmaking to staying healthy.

So, I guess we’re saying the same thing. His dedication is unrivaled and it’s born fruit. But it’s not like he has some method or insight or technique that can change lifestyles or the way people eat and train.

And yes, he’s lucky because if he took a headshot and got concussed or paralyzed or hit in the chest like Bledsoe or suffered any of most of the other unfortunate hits that others have taken, all the concussion water and avocado ice cream in the world wouldn’t let him avoid the damage.

Like, the hit that took out his new 14(?) years ago would blow it up just as bad today.
 

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Eh. Bernard Hopkins led a much more undisciplined first half of his life and held a major boxing title into his late 40’s and maybe even till 50?

I’d be shocked if there were more than 20 guys in the NFL who didn’t drink, smoke, party or eat shitty foods some time. Maybe Drew Brees is another, which kind of strains the unprecedented part. I think the Spartan athlete is mostly marketing and a myth and I don’t think there’s anything super special or unique about the Brady method beyond being super talented and genetically lucky and devoting most of every waking moment and decisionmaking to staying healthy.

So, I guess we’re saying the same thing. His dedication is unrivaled and it’s born fruit. But it’s not like he has some method or insight or technique that can change lifestyles or the way people eat and train.

And yes, he’s lucky because if he took a headshot and got concussed or paralyzed or hit in the chest like Bledsoe or suffered any of most of the other unfortunate hits that others have taken, all the concussion water and avocado ice cream in the world wouldn’t let him avoid the damage.

Like, the hit that took out his new 14(?) years ago would blow it up just as bad today.
There is massive value in healthy living. And how it can add longevity to an athletic career. Look at Lebron, too, he spends millions on his body every year. His results also speak for themselves. And, yes, both gentleman were blessed with incredible genetics. But, frankly, every single athlete in the professional realm is blessed with incredible genetics. There isn't a single player in the NFL who didn't with the genetic lottery. Their bodies are different. And if they weren't, they would break down many years before going professional was an option. But some last more than others. Lebon and Brady are great examples of how much you can get out of your body if you take the best care of it.

Dudes in the 70s and 80s drank and smoked. They were done by 33.

And while I do not do the TB12 method,(that said, I am a very healthy eater and diligent exerciser and drink a massive amount of water every day and it matters) I would submit that Brady thinks he's got an insight and technique that could help people. And I actually believe he's right. It's not like the TB12 method reinvented the wheel, but it is fair to say that staying pliable, not eating garbage, and staying hydrated would make a substantial portion of society feel better. This is country that could really use a healthier lifestyle. If Brady can help people, I am good with it.

edit - I am not disagreeing with you here in any way. Just adding some commentary on top of it.
 

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... I don’t think there’s anything super special or unique about the Brady method beyond being super talented and genetically lucky and devoting most of every waking moment and decisionmaking to staying healthy.
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There's the rub. Part of his devotion is reflected in a dietary regimen he and his gurus have devised, and which by all accounts he rigorously adheres to. It's an every waking moment thing. How much is his diet a part of his health? We'll never know. But Brady's combination of longevity and skill retention is pretty much unprecedented in the NFL. Yeah, Brees is up there too, and Warren Moon was still good in his early 40s, and I guess Blanda could still at least kick at 40. Overall, though, the vast majority of players had fallen off the cliff long before Brady's age -- it's just no contest there.

This isn't to say it's because of the avocado shakes. We'll never know how much of his good health is from his diet, but at least we can conclude that his eating quirks haven't contributed to an early decline in his health.

Maybe one underrated component of his longevity is his ability to avoid hits. This means sometimes tossing the ball away too quickly, or going down without being touched, but it's kept him healthy. You're right -- a Bernard Pollard shot to the knee would cripple Brady, regardless of what he eats. Avoiding those hits has been key.
 

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What I always tell people when they ask whether to do keto or South Beach or intermittent fasting or carb cycling is every diet works so long as you stick to it. Brady is an example of that, but I don’t think his success is going to be more socially impactful than like JLo’s or Tom Cruise’s in motivating people to diet and exercise, regardless of his marketing plan.
 

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Holding calls across the NFL are at a 20-season low, according to research by ESPN Stats & Information. There have been 357 offensive holding penalties through 11 weeks, down from the 660 offensive holding penalties at the same point last season.
 

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Eh. Bernard Hopkins led a much more undisciplined first half of his life and held a major boxing title into his late 40’s and maybe even till 50?

I’d be shocked if there were more than 20 guys in the NFL who didn’t drink, smoke, party or eat shitty foods some time. Maybe Drew Brees is another, which kind of strains the unprecedented part. I think the Spartan athlete is mostly marketing and a myth and I don’t think there’s anything super special or unique about the Brady method beyond being super talented and genetically lucky and devoting most of every waking moment and decisionmaking to staying healthy.

So, I guess we’re saying the same thing. His dedication is unrivaled and it’s born fruit. But it’s not like he has some method or insight or technique that can change lifestyles or the way people eat and train.

And yes, he’s lucky because if he took a headshot and got concussed or paralyzed or hit in the chest like Bledsoe or suffered any of most of the other unfortunate hits that others have taken, all the concussion water and avocado ice cream in the world wouldn’t let him avoid the damage.

Like, the hit that took out his new 14(?) years ago would blow it up just as bad today.
Brees interestingly enough has a diet where he is pretty strict about his foods and avoids ones that he believes cause inflammation, much like Brady.

https://www.stack.com/a/5-pro-athletes-with-ridiculously-strict-diets?slide=3#:~:text=He's big on fruits and,compete at the highest level.
 

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Didn’t take a rocket scientist to know this was the right call.

Fun fact: No full time coach ever fired by the Lions has been named an NFL head coach again.
 

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I would have let Patricia finish the year unless I had info (as ownership) that the players hated him. I’m not a huge fan of mid season firing unless you have a O’Brien situation.
 

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Wait, so hiring the guy who couldn’t stop Nick fucking Foles in the biggest game of the year was a bad idea? Who knew...
 

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The be-like-Bill tactics from BB assistants never, ever works. If you're not yourself and establish credibility early with the players, you're done. They'll see through it right away. Flores is the only coach so far who has done that.
 

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Wait, so hiring the guy who couldn’t stop Nick fucking Foles in the biggest game of the year was a bad idea? Who knew...
In fairness, neither did Mike Zimmer and friends: that Philly team was a 14-2 house.

Anyways, he was a failure with Detroit, the firing was coming by season’s end. The idea he can’t coach defense is pretty out there IMO, so I expect he has got a job on a defensive staff next year if he wants it, but I don’t think he sniffs a head coaching job again. He not only objectively failed over three seasons with a legitimately good QB, but his public brand SUCKS. That matters a lot to your head coaching prospects when you don’t win.
 

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Foles' run that whole postseason was ridiculous.

vs Atl: 23-30 (76.7%), 246 yds, 0 td, 0 int, 100.1 rating
vs Min: 26-33 (78.8%), 352 yds, 3 td, 0 int, 141.4 rating
vs NE: 28-43 (65.1%), 373 yds, 3 td, 1 int, 106.1 rating
TOT: 77-106 (72.6%), 971 yds, 6 td, 1 int, 115.7 rating

And it wasn't like Foles had never done this before. In 2013 he was absurdly good: 203-317 (64.0%), 2,891 yds, 27 td, 2 int, 119.2 rating

So he was capable of putting it together. Which he...most definitely did, at just the right (for him and them) time.