Newcastle 2014-15 - Adieu Pardew!

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Joe D Reid

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I don't even want sustained success--let's just try come in 15th and win the League Cup. (Which actually might be the thread title for next year.)
 

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Can't we just pre-stipulate a Europa forfeit to Gargleist Tirana or whoever?
 

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CF: "Do the club not think it is worth a cup run next season?"
The board outlined research into Premier League clubs in relation to domestic cup competitions in the last five years, with Swansea City the only club outside the traditional top six to win a domestic cup and not be relegated in the same season (Birmingham and Wigan Athletic were both relegated). Independent research into the cost of relegation over the past ten years showed there is a 50% chance of not gaining promotion back to the top flight and a 30% chance of being relegated to League One or further. In addition, if clubs do return to the Premier League, it takes four years on average.
 
From the most recent 'fans forum'.  Says it all, right there.  Newcastle United- graveyard of ambition indeed.  Fuck it.
 

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"Outside the traditional top six"  That ought to include the club with the 3rd highest attendance in England (in an economically depressed area to boot) you morons.
 

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So the next player we buy will be the first player we've bought since the great Kevin Mbabu in January 2013. 
Twitter is all abuzz that the player will be Remy Cabella. £6.5 million the figure currently being discussed.
 

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Cheer up, mascho, we've signed someone! No official announcement yet, but pictures of Ayoze Perez with the shirt are all over the place. Now we just need to sign some guys that will actually play in the first team!
 

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Cheer up, mascho, we've signed someone! No official announcement yet, but pictures of Ayoze Perez with the shirt are all over the place. Now we just need to sign some guys that will actually play in the first team!
/Googling 2016 Champion's League Final location
 

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Lots of (seemingly believable) buzz that you guys have signed Siem de Jong from Ajax.  No idea about the fee.
 
If true, I think that's a solid acquisition in midfield.  He's not a superstar but he's a good well rounded player with a knack for scoring goals in big spots.
 

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de Jong is official.  Hopefully they'll have better luck the second time around with that family.
 
Colback, Perez and de Jong.  At least that's forward progress!
 

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True that.  Curious to see if they'll switch Santon over to the right and have Haidara patrol the left.  
 
Selling Debuchy makes sense given the track record- I'd bet a fair amount of dough that de Jong, this Perez character and anyone else who comes in will cost the same amount of dough that the team gets for Debuchy.
 

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Seven Costanza said:
True that.  Curious to see if they'll switch Santon over to the right and have Haidara patrol the left.  
 
Selling Debuchy makes sense given the track record- I'd bet a fair amount of dough that de Jong, this Perez character and anyone else who comes in will cost the same amount of dough that the team gets for Debuchy.
Plus, they'll be selling high on him given France's WC run, and the fact he hasn't gotten a red card yet.

EDIT: MMS- he's a decent defender, aggressive at times, perhaps overly so (I've posted a few times the gif of his flawless two-footed "challenge" last season that earned him a straight red). Picks his spots to come forward and can cross fairly well. Others might have different opinions but I think he's a quality RB. Plus, he beat out Sanga already for France.
 

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MMS- I'd agree with everything Mascho said about Debuchy.  He's legit when he wants to be (seemed disinterested at times, especially after Cabaye left) but I'm sure that won't be a problem at a more competitive club.
 
I've seen 12 million rumored as a selling price- if true, I think that's double what they paid for him less than 2 years ago. Not bad business as you say.
 

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What can you guys tell me about Debuchy? It seems like he's probably going to Arsenal.
 
He's French, so of course he'll fit at Arsenal. 
 
Geez, I wonder if Arsene just realized that Newcastle is like a "Baby France".
 

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You could make a case for him to be the third best RB in the league (Coleman, Zabaleta). He has his quiet spells but on the whole he's a solid player. Now that Arsenal need someone to fill the Sagna void it's a logical move.

Doesn't Dummett play RB?
 

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Ashley's licking his chops after that Tim Krul display.
 
Sold within the month for a hefty profit. 
 
Who used to be the backup? That's your new starter, 'cause Krul is G-O-N-E.
 

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soxfan121 said:
 
Sold within the month for a hefty profit. 
 
Who used to be the backup? That's your new starter, 'cause Krul is G-O-N-E.
Rob Elliot. Fared somewhat well* in limited action last season when Krul was out with an injury.

Just kidding. Newcastle lost back-to-back 4-0 matches in his two starts.
 

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Cisse up front (or whoever they get off the scrap heap) alone with DeJong, Cabella and a reformed Ben Arfa behind... Sissoko, Tiote/Anita in holding roles.
 
I could be down with that.
 

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Both.
 
Daryl Janmaat apparently up next to come in.  Interested to hear what Tony the Pony thinks of him.
 

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Only took Siem de Jong 14 minutes to open his Newcastle account- rising laser from 20-25 yards out in first preseason friendly against Oldham.
 

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Yet ANOTHER signing! Striker Emmanuel Riviere of Monaco in Toon right now finalizing a deal, per everyone on twitter.
 
It's been discussed elsewhere, but obviously the strategy here is bring in young, talented continental talent with the promise that they'll be able to audition for a few years before moving on to 'bigger' clubs.  Newcastle gets the talent for a bit and makes a decent profit.  Ashley isn't going to spend like an oligarch, so at least this enables Newcastle to remain competitive while paying down debt.
 

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Mike Ashley's Flagon of Frenchmen!
 
We've got big Frenchmen, small Frenchmen - any size Frenchman you want, we have 'em in stock!
Do you need big hair? We've got that!
How about a Dutch guy? Got those too!
Come on down to Mike Ashley's Flagon of Frenchmen, where the quality speaks for itself - so long as you speak French!
 

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I just realized I said 'talented continental talent' in my previous post, but yeah, what you guys said.
 
Never a dull moment!
 

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Wonga has new management http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/wonga-could-pull-out-newcastle-7418906
 
Potentially, they could pull out of the shirt deal because of a restructuring of their financial portfolio
 
 
Mr Haste said he was “very aware” of criticism of its current advertising and marketing campaign and said he would “be reviewing all of our advertising and marketing to make sure that we don’t leave any impression that we are trying to influence or target the very young or the vulnerable.”
His appointment comes weeks after Wonga said it had agreed with regulators that it would pay £2.6 million in compensation after chasing struggling customers with fake legal letters to pressurise them into paying up.
Mr Haste said the company, which has been strongly criticised by MPs over high interest rates, must review rates, fees and charges and no longer be seen as targeting “the young and the vulnerable”.
He said: “This is a sector and Wonga is a company that needs to go through significant change if it is to have a sustainable future.
“Some serious mistakes have been made. The company admitted those mistakes and it has apologised for those mistakes.
“Wonga has understandably faced a lot of criticism and I know that we need to repair our reputation and regain our right to be an accepted part of the financial services sector.”
 

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I hope Wonga does pull out of the sponsorship, because it's the only way I'm getting a new shirt and I like the new away one.
 

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I love this headline: Newcastle Accepts Bid for Fat Midfielder

http://www.nufcfans.co.uk/2014/07/newcastle-accept-bid-fat-midfielder-wants-stay/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+nufcfanswebsite+%28NUFCfans%29

Apparently HBA is firmly entrenched in Pardew's doghouse that NUFC have accepted a bid for him from an "unknown Ukrainian club" but HBA wants to stay. (I mean, who wants to live there right now, right?)

HBA was also fined for showing up a few lbs overweight.

That is all so very Newcastle.
 

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I think a thread title change is in order. Fat midfielders don't grow on trees.
 

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Sending a player to an unknown Ukrainian club needs to become the ultimate threat for the entitled footballer.
 
Cut that shit out or you're off to Ukraine for the year.
 
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